Annie Hall (1977)

Annie Hall (1977)

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PostNov 26, 2022#1

Annie Hall (1977)

A near-Dickensian exploration of a self-defined intellectual's (Woody Allen) past by time traveling to scenes of his childhood and revisiting some scenes of his past loves; but where the mechanism is caused not by ghostly intervention but is instead psychoanalytically induced.

It is thus, then, that not only does he travel to the past and reappraise it, but he is also able to interact with it: He questions (as do companions he brings along with him,) but is also questioned by the projections of his subconscious.

His fourth wall-breaking extends to scenes in the present where other figures address his endless interior monologue/dialogue, (walking down a street, a random pedestrian will answer questions about his inner self.)

Ultimately, the story is about a short-lived Pygmalion-like romance he develops with the Annie Hall character (Diane Keaton.) 
She initially pursues him, (which is necessary for the thrice repeated Groucho Marx joke about not wanting to be a member of the club that will have him, to apply,) he responds, and they start dating.

His 'unhealthy' obsessions become immediately apparent (he endlessly watches The Sorrow and the Pity,) but by exposing her to his own obsessions (which do not rub off on her) she begins to grow; so much so that eventually, she will outgrow him, when after fifteen years of psychotherapy, he's still stuck in the same emotional space.

Much is made of the New York/Los Angeles culture clash and how he cannot cope with the West Coast. She, however, learns she is fine with it and fully embraces it. They break up, get together again and, ultimately, decide to lead separate lives despite remaining on friendly terms.
The original, preproduction title Anhedonia supposedly indicated his character's inability to enjoy himself, but that simply is not true: He clearly enjoys many things, including feeling sorry for himself most of the time.

Supposedly near autobiographical, wisecrackingly witty, and still quite funny.

With Carol Kane, Tony Roberts, Janet Margolin, and Shelley Duvall.

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PostNov 26, 2022#2

Lacks the overtly deliberate monochromatic ambience of MANHATTAN from around the same era, however: if wholesale Allenesque observations and late 20th Century contemporary soul-searching are your particular bag, you can do far worse than sit through this sucker.

For absolute, spot-on Allen-esque reflections and sardonic quips upon civilization itself, you had to wait for Radio Days [around 1987] in order vto eclipse this one, in my view.

PostNov 26, 2022#3

Lacks the overtly deliberate monochromatic and gritty  ambience of MANHATTAN from around the same era, however: if wholesale Allenesque observations and late 20th Century contemporary soul-searching are your particular bag, you can do far worse than sit through this sucker.

For absolute, spot-on Allen-esque reflections and sardonic quips upon civilization itself, you had to wait for Radio Days [around 1987] in order vto eclipse this one, in my view.

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PostNov 26, 2022#4

I think to classify this as genre is a stretch. More like on the margin. Not a Woody Allen fan, particularly the ones where he is just kvetching.

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PostNov 26, 2022#5

will wrote:
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I think to classify this as genre is a stretch. More like on the margin. Not a Woody Allen fan, particularly the ones where he is just kvetching.
There's a Surreal quality to the whole thing, and if rumors are to be believed there were originally scripted scenes of outright Fantasy.

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PostNov 27, 2022#6

I believe that Annie Hall was originally filmed as a murder mystery, and it was somewhat similar to Only Murders in the Building.
 
Allen said (in his autobiography) that he nearly finished shooting Annie Hall as a murder show but didn't like it.  He asked the studio if he could reshoot most of the film and they said yes, since it was fairly low budget.   Allen later made a comedy murder mystery called  Manhattan Murder Mystery.  It cribbed much of the material from the first version of Annie Hall.

I would say that Annie Hall has a certain breezy quality that is missing from all of his other films, thus making it his best.  It could be argued that SEINFELD could never have happened without Annie Hall.  Co-writer Marshal Brickman wanted to call the movie It had to be Jew.

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PostNov 27, 2022#7

I think Annie Hall is one of the best romantic comedies ever made, and I think that would be a general consensus without the one-two punch of Allen's eventually destroyed reputation and being unlucky enough to beat Star Wars for Best Picture.

Funny, though, that every single post up to now has focused exclusively on Woody and his contributions to this film as opposed to Diane Keaton, who is the title character and deservedly won an Oscar for Best Actress.

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PostNov 27, 2022#8

Well, Woody wrote, directed, and starred in it so it is understandable the discussion focuses on him.

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PostNov 27, 2022#9

Understandable, yes, but again Keaton won her own Oscar and the film isn't called Alvy Singer.   In terms of performances, the movie is a definite two-hander.



With a different lead actress Annie Hall is a different movie - Keaton's performance sets the tone.  Ultimately I credit her with the film's box office success in that she softens Allen's sometimes overbearing persona.

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PostNov 29, 2022#10

The scene that stays with me is the one where he's surrounded by fans, but they're such stereotyped Italian-Americans that he's scared of them. Followed by him telling his date "I'm standing there with the cast of THE GODFATHER!"

I can't think whether the date is the Annie character or someone else. Obviously if it's Annie that's an inside joke.

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PostNov 29, 2022#11

Well, Keaton won an Oscar for playing close to herself. She has since not shown the range of Mia Farrow.

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PostNov 29, 2022#12

"Allen's sometimes overbearing persona."

Another line that stays with me is when he meets the Carol Kane character, learns 2-3 things about her, then tells her everything else about her. When he apologizes, she says "That's all right. I like being reduced to a cultural stereotype."

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PostNov 29, 2022#13

will wrote:
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Well, Keaton won an Oscar for playing close to herself. She has since not shown the range of Mia Farrow.
It is not every day that Mia Farrow receives praise for her acting chops.

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PostNov 29, 2022#14

While Keaton won for Annie Hall, her acclaimed performance the same year in Looking for Mr. Goodbar probably was also remembered by Academy voters when considering Best Actress of '77.

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PostNov 29, 2022#15

It's all a matter of taste, but I've always viewed Mia Farrow's presentations as different variations of "Stern" (scared stern, comic stern, dramatic stern). 

I completely disagree, though, that Keaton hasn't shown range.   Goodbar, as has been mentioned, was a sensational performance.  The Good Mother, Marvin's Room, Reds, - The Godfather, for goodness.   Even in trite like Baby Boom she has a very different presentation than Annie Hall.

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PostNov 29, 2022#16

In his book "When the Shooting Stops, the Cutting Starts," film editor Ralph Rosenblum takes a lot of credit for saving Allen's early films like TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN and BANANAS. He also edited SLEEPER and ANNIE HALL and helped save Allen's next film INTERIORS.  After his book came out, Rosenblum never worked for Allen again.  Kind of like what happened to Spielberg's JAWS editor Verna Fields after she gave too many interviews about her contributions.  

PostNov 29, 2022#17

Actresses (and actors) get the roles they're offered.  Keaton likely got more offers to do romantic comedies and lighter fare than the serious stuff that would be snapped up by first choices like Meryl Streep or Jane Fonda.  

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PostNov 29, 2022#18

Keaton is terrible in the Godfather, particularly Part 2. The one truly bad scene in a near masterpiece is her confrontation with Michael where her hissing of "this Sciliian thing" is almost funny. She is frequently tonal deft in delivering dramatic lines. Comedy is her strength but she is one note doing it. In her early appearance on Night Gallery she is so bad Angel Tompkins out acts her!

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PostNov 30, 2022#19

>>>Goodbar, as has been mentioned, was a sensational performance.  The Good Mother, Marvin's Room, Reds,>>>

For my dough, SHOOT THE MOON showcases her career-high dramatic work.  She delivers an emotionally raw and complex performance. 

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PostDec 15, 2022#20

Rapfred wrote:
Nov 30, 2022
>>>Goodbar, as has been mentioned, was a sensational performance.  The Good Mother, Marvin's Room, Reds,>>>

For my dough, SHOOT THE MOON showcases her career-high dramatic work.  She delivers an emotionally raw and complex performance. 
I'm half-way through INTERIORS and Keaton (IMHO) is holding her own with Page (Stapleton yet to appear).