Thread: Dick Cheney says he's 'deeply disappointed' with GOP leadership on Jan. 6 anniversary

Dick Cheney says he's 'deeply disappointed' with GOP leadership on Jan. 6 anniversary

Former Vice President Dick Cheney joined his daughter, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), in Congress on Thursday as lawmakers marked the anniversary of the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) led a moment of silence on the House floor Thursday, one year after the attack on the Capitol by supporters of former President Donald Trump, who sought to disrupt the certification of President Biden's election win. Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney were the only Republicans in attendance on the House floor for the moment of silence, according to CNN.

The former vice president told ABC News that the Jan. 6 anniversary is an "important historical event," and "you can't overestimate how important it is." Cheney added, "I'm deeply disappointed we don't have better leadership in the Republican Party to restore the Constitution." He also said the Republican Party's leadership is "not a leadership that resembles any of the folks I knew when I was here for ten years," per Politico.

ABC News' Ben Siegel reports that Democrats "one by one" came over to introduce themselves to Dick Cheney and shake his hand. The New York Times White House correspondent Peter Baker wrote that there was "something surreal about watching Pelosi and other Democrats happily greeting Dick Cheney, once their bete noire," suggesting it "says something about how Trump has changed the nature of our politics."
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$#@! me, Darth Cheney is still alive?

I thought that greasy $#@! took the dirt nap years ago.

"I'm deeply disappointed we don't have better leadership in the Republican Party to restore the Constitution."

You and The Chimp burned that ship at the dock years ago now.

FOAD already.

Another example of the swamp fighting the swamp. Let all sides destroy one another to be so weakened that we can go out own way while staying out of it.

Originally Posted by vita3

Cheney was Chief of Staff under Ford admin, when they had disastrous mandatory vaccines for non existent bird-flu in 1976

What a guy

Liz Cheney is very close friends with Jill Biden, so effectively Dick is back in the White House.

I wonder if he's disappointed that we have a VP thats actually more hated than him.

Did you know Dick Cheney is so low of a human being that he didn't even apologize to Harry Whittington for shooting him ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...101307173.html

Originally Posted by Snowball

Did you know Dick Cheney is so low of a human being that he didn't even apologize to Harry Whittington for shooting him ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...101307173.html

Not unusual behavior for those people. They are not like us, the elite class. Out of all the different people and different cultures I met in my lifetime the people I find the most alien in their behavior are the elite class. They look like us, they sound like us, speak the same language, but the thought process in how they treat and interact with their fellow man is lacking of any normal empathy or compassion. They are sadistic and cruel lot, and that is how they treat one another or anyone that speaks the truth.

You know people come up with all kinds of wild conspiracy theories about the elites, maybe they are onto something since in my experience they have the morality and behavior of demons.

Originally Posted by kahless

Not unusual behavior for those people. They are not like us, the elite class. Out of all the different people and different cultures I met in my lifetime the people I find the most alien in their behavior are the elite class. They look like us, they sound like us, speak the same language, but the thought process in how they treat and interact with their fellow man is lacking of any normal empathy or compassion. They are sadistic and cruel lot, and that is how they treat one another or anyone that speaks the truth.

You know people come up with all kinds of wild conspiracy theories about the elites, maybe they are onto something since in my experience they have the morality and behavior of demons.

What's the matter with demons and having no conscience?

You know we have freedom of religion, right?

Maybe it was a bad idea after all. Just maybe.

Originally Posted by Snowball

What's the matter with demons and having no conscience?

You know we have freedom of religion, right?

Maybe it was a bad idea after all. Just maybe.

Not if your religion is preying on people and destroying lives for their own sadistic pleasure and sport.

So....

A Tale of Two Authoritarians
The appearance of Dick Cheney in the House of Representatives on the anniversary of January 6th helped identify the true villain on the scene
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/a-tale...authoritarians
Matt Taibbi (07 January 2022)

Former Vice President Dick Cheney visited the House of Representatives yesterday. He and his daughter Liz were the only two Republicans present at a moment of silence commemorating the events of last January 6th. It was a touching scene, which perfectly described why the surviving anti-Trump Uniparty of the political mainstream is at least as much of a threat to democracy as the �insurrectionists� they never stop wailing about.

In a story entitled �Dick Cheney returns to the House and receives a warm welcome . . . from Democrats,� the Washington Post wrote that �Democrats put aside their fierce and lasting policy divides with the Cheneys to thank them for condemning the attack and Trump�s continued effort to undermine the 2020 presidential election results with his false claims of fraud.�

(News writing has become a pre-fab profession, like assembling IKEA furniture. All you need is an Allen wrench and a list of the latest clich�s. �Trump�s efforts to undermine the 2020 election� has replaced �Trump�s efforts to coordinate with the Russian government in its election interference activities,� and �Trump�s false claims of fraud� has replaced �Trump�s false claims of �fake news.�� Part of the significance of January 6th is that it updated popular propaganda stock, which had grown stale.)

I don�t mean to understate the seriousness of January 6th, even though it�s been absurdly misreported for over a year now. No one from a country where these things actually happen could mistake 1/6 for �a coup .� In the real version, the mob doesn�t take selfies and blaze doobies after seizing the palace, and the would-be dictator doesn�t spend 187 minutes snacking and watching Fox before tweeting �go home.� Instead, he works the phones nonstop to rally precinct chiefs, generals, and airport officials to the cause, because a coup is a real attempt to seize power. Britannica says the �chief prerequisite for a coup is control of all or part of the armed forces, the police, and other military elements.� We saw none of that on January 6th, but it�s become journalistic requirement to use either �coup� or �insurrection� in describing it:

The endless hyperventilating efforts to describe January 6th as a disaster on the order of Pearl Harbor or even 9/11 has been awesome to behold. Huffington Post nitwit S.V. Date even called it �1,000 percent worse� than 9/11, moving the decimal point over on the famous Team America joke*:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7zLmhHnOyE

The panic inspired convulsions across politics and the media. Ted Cruz made a plea for mainstream recognition by denouncing 1/6 as a �violent terrorist attack� before cowering in retreat on Tucker Carlson Tonight, in the process pantsing himself with audiences in all directions. Meanwhile, podcaster Eric Lendrum, on the pro-Trump site American Greatness, devised the impressively crazy syllogism that because the mainstream caricature of Trump supporters is so incorrect, conservatives should therefore embrace it: �If their aim is to make January 6 their Reichstag Fire, then we should go forward celebrating the events of that day as our Storming of the Bastille.�

It was no heroic storming of the Bastille. January 6th was a massive LARP that got out of hand. Trump has been around long enough for us to know his pattern as a serial line-crosser. Like a comedian, he�s always trying out new material, and if he gets the right reaction, he comes back with a bigger delivery next time. January 6th was Trump dipping a toe in the lake of strongman politics. The reason it wasn�t worse is because Trump has also been constantly mislabeled as a Hitler, Stalin, or Pinochet. The man has no attention span, no interest in planning or strategy, and most importantly, no ability to maintain relationships with the type of people who do have those qualities (like Steve Bannon). Even if he wanted to overturn �democracy itself� � I don�t believe he does, but let�s say � Trump has proven over and over he lacks the qualities a politician would need to make that happen.

Which brings us back to Cheney. All those things Trump is rumored to be, Dick Cheney actually is. That�s why it�s so significant that he appeared on the floor of the House yesterday to be slobbered over by the Adam Schiffs and Nancy Pelosis of the world. Dick Cheney did more to destroy democracy in ten minutes of his Vice Presidency than Donald Trump did in four years.

Seeing leading Democrats nuzzling the man George W. Bush called �Iron Ass� summed up the essential problem of the ordinary person trying to find a political home in this landscape. Even if you find the Trump phenomenon troubling, his opposition is not only authoritarian, but organized and armed with the intellectual tools to understand and appreciate how the technological elimination of democracy might be achieved in the 21st century.

We�re living through a period where an unpleasantly likely outcome for the ordinary American is the invocation of emergency powers to eliminate basic rights. From which side is that threat most likely to come? The pattern during Trump�s presidency was hyping the Russian menace to justify increased surveillance and censorship. Russia has since been switched out in favor of two new emergency bugbears. The first is the rise of �domestic terrorism,� and if you don�t think Cheney-style democracy-canceling is on the minds of officials heading into the next presidential election, you haven�t been reading the growing pile of articles quoting military types advertising their preparations for counter-coup in 2024.

The second emergency of course is the pandemic, which ought to have been exhibit A in Trump�s uninterest in being a dictator � he could have legally invoked all sorts of powers and did not. Instead, it�s become part of a widening propaganda campaign designed to enlist the wine-cave MSNBC set behind full-blown Big Brother governance. Remember our Health and Human Services Secretary saying last summer, in advance of a �door-to-door� campaign that was supposedly about urging people toward the jab, that �it absolutely is the government�s business� to know who�s vaccinated and who isn�t? Or, have you noticed the total lack of interest among pundits and politicians in distinguishing between anti-vaxxers and people who merely have anti-mandate or anti-passport attitudes? It�s all the same obstructionism to them.

Where have we seen this style of intentional line-blurring to justify the expansion of executive authority before? From Cheney, who took emergency politics to places even a sober Joe McCarthy could never have dreamed of. On the pretense that new powers were needed to combat the sweeping global threat whose existence 9/11 supposedly proved, Cheney institutionalized executive assassination, torture, mass surveillance, secret prisons, secret budgeting, and the wholesale elimination of congressional oversight over most of his program, turning the world into what one Pentagon adviser who talked to Seymour Hersh back in the day called a �global free-fire zone.�

It was under Cheney�s watch that we turned into a country that snatched people off the streets all over the world, put them in indefinite detention in an archipelago of secret hell-holes, threatened to rape their family members, and resorted to techniques like �rectal feeding� so often that one Guantanamo Bay prisoner had to bring a special pillow to sit in court.

The core principle of Cheney�s politics was protecting his new bureaucracies of murder and open-ended detention from legal challenge. That meant creating structures that were legally invisible. Are you on a watch list? Has the FBI sent out a National Security Letter to your telecom provider? Have you been approved for �lethal action� and put on the �distribution matrix,� a.k.a. the kill list? Courts repeatedly declined to listen to complainants with such questions because the secrecy of the programs made it difficult or impossible to prove they had a cause of action, a perfect Catch-22.

Even members of congress were often unable to find out about whole ranges of programs unless an accident like the Edward Snowden revelations came their way. Cheney built a government inside a government that simply did not recognize the authority of the other branches. It�s no accident this person is now receiving a �warm welcome� from Democrats because that party has for years now been openly worshipful of his secret-hammer model of executive rule, which expanded to a conspicuous degree after he left office.

What would Cheney have done in response to 1/6 or the pandemic? We don�t have to work too hard to guess. His contemptuous vision of rights and constitutional law remains the face of American government, with the most obvious recent example being the extradition of Julian Assange. For thirteen years after Dick Cheney left the Vice President�s office, the United States remained committed to a ruthless manhunt of a person whose chief �crime� was the publishing of details of Cheney�s secret authoritarian state, from the �Gitmo files,� to the Afghan and Iraqi war logs, to the Collateral Murder video.

To go after Assange, the Biden (and Trump) administrations used the Espionage Act, a dystopian law from the Woodrow Wilson era written so broadly that being charged under it is essentially part of what defines a person as guilty of the crime. Barack Obama used it to go after leakers eight times. Worse, one of the people who was kissing Cheney�s ring yesterday, House Intelligence Chair Adam Schiff, not long ago beefed up a similar law called the Intelligence Identities Protection Act (IIPA) that would make any journalist who revealed the name of a covert agent engaged in assassination or torture, even long after the fact, subject to prosecution. This from a man, Schiff, who is the co-chair of the Congressional Freedom of the Press Caucus! A few years ago, the New York Times got hold of the CIA memo arguing in favor of the provision Schiff reportedly helped insert:

Particularly with the lengths organizations such as WikiLeaks are willing to go to obtain and release sensitive national security information, as well as incidents related to past Agency programs, such as the RDI investigation, the original congressional reasoning mentioned above for a narrow definition of �covert agent� no longer remains valid. This proposal would provide protection for all undercover Agency officers by allowing for the prosecution of individuals responsible for disclosing the identities of those officers�

As journalist Trevor Timm noted, �RDI� stands for �Rendition, Detention, and Interrogation,� and is a common euphemism for the CIA�s illegal torture program. If the Democrats cared at all about issues like transparency, human rights, and civil liberties, they would be recoiling in horror from the prosecution of Assange, and the head of their intel committee wouldn�t be working to make it easier to prosecute journalists for exposing war crimes and torture.

Instead, they�re backing the principle of arresting a non-American for the equivalent of treason, using a law that would render illegal practices that virtually every national security reporter engages in as a matter of routine.

For those who want to retort, �Most journalists don�t steal and hack derp!� I�d encourage reading the indictment. All but one of the charges against Assange are for things like �conspiracy to obtain national defense information� or �obtaining national defense information,� with �national defense information� defined with extraordinary vagueness. Just hearing information �the President has determined would be prejudicial to the national defense,� or which may be �used to the injury of the United States,� can put you in jail basically forever under this law.

This is not the same as revealing classified information (there are different laws for that). Widespread application of this law, or the IIPA, would essentially criminalize reporting on state wrongdoing, which was exactly the CIA�s point in arguing for such measures.

Before the Cheney era, the vast majority of us would have considered such thinking repellent and anti-American. In the last five years especially, though, Democrats, former security officials like John Brennan, and ex-Republicans like David Frum and Bill Kristol have pounded the table for this logic as more necessary than ever. They claim, as Cheney did, that not only are some threats so dire that extraordinary vigilance is necessary, but that the nature of those threats is such that counter-operations against them must not ever be corrupted by due process or oversight.

This is why these people can�t be trusted with policies like vaccine passports and/or Merrick Garland�s plan to �methodically track� what he called �violent extremists� and domestic terrorists in the wake of 1/6. The latter idea is particularly troubling given that no one connected with that incident has been charged with anything like terrorism, for the simple reason that what happened wasn�t terrorism.

The potential applications for a souped-up domestic version of Cheney�s still-extant watch lists are horrific to consider. Are we going to widen the circle of people who will mysteriously find themselves unable to get bank accounts, transfer money, or attend schools? Do we want to leave it up to the White House to determine what�s reporting and what�s �obtaining national defense information,� particularly if they start stretching the concept to cover revelations about the pandemic? Yes, it�s a little ironic that some of the people now on those lists may have cheered their creation once upon a time, when the victims were mainly Muslims. But that doesn�t make the idea of expanding the policy any less asinine.

Cheney�s reappearance and the outpouring of loony commentary describing 1/6 as a �coup� or an �insurrection� (instead of something closer to the American version of a soccer riot) are related. The types of policies that Cheney instituted relied upon the idea that government was capable of making unassailable decisions about, say, who was a real terrorist and who was just a taxi driver or a small-town cop in Yemen. He was successful in taking the courts out of the business of reviewing the detention of human beings because he argued that when it came to terrorism, our �professionals� didn�t make those errors. Cheney�s idea of justice was the same kind of insane authoritarian whack-off fantasy as the �surgical strike,� only even more dangerous because it had wider potential applications.

�Professionals� do make errors, about everything from terrorists to viruses. In fact, a fair number of the people seeking this enhanced authority are dumber than average. You don�t have to like Donald Trump to recognize the dire threat represented by a clique of mediocrities with just enough brains to use their offices to organize the criminalization of their opposition.

Think about how badly we botched the War on Terror, how many bombs we dropped in the wrong places, how many innocent people we turned into prisoners while suffering global delirium tremens, using 800 military bases full of Hellfire missiles toscratch all over at bugs that weren�t there. That madness made us a villain across the planet, exponentially increasing the risk of terrorist attacks. Are we really going to bring that show home?

* An earlier version of this article incorrectly identified Date�s quote as �1000 times worse,� not �1000 percent worse,� so the number is 9,110, not 911,000.

I remember when Democrats used to hate Dick Cheney, now they are praising him. Unbelievable and disturbing the Cheney's are close to the current President and his wife.

Originally Posted by Aratus

i am actually distantly related to the man, because of who his mother was. I have a profound respect for both his daughters.

It seems like Glenn Greenwald doesn't share that sentiment.

Originally Posted by Occam's Banana

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statu...84418978689024

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statu...83320846934025



"Shelving" every policy goal the Democrat party doesn't like is necessary to "[save] our democratic system" ...

Liz Cheney is there to make sure her father's crimes stay hidden, nothing more.

What is this treasonous 9/11mass murder criminal still doing free?

Hey Dick the plane is 20 miles out from the Pentagon no shoot-down order yet? Does this guy still appear in public?

https://www.911research.wtc7.net/~ni...is/cheney.html

MR. MINETA: No, I was not. I was made aware of it during the time that the airplane coming into the Pentagon. There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, "The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to, "The plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the vice president, "Do the orders still stand?" And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?" 2