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4/10
This was hard work
Sleepin_Dragon8 February 2016
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I never like giving a low score to a film, but after watching this I don't really see how I can possibly grade it any higher then a four. I'll start with the positives, in terms of period detail, it looked really good, the clothes, the cars, I felt they did a fairly good job at capturing the atmosphere of the era.

Sadly the film never engaged me, I've read some of the books on The Krays, and at no point did I feel the two leads I was watching in this were the Kray Brothers, firstly appearance, I know you can't expecting a perfect likeness, but they just seemed a little off. In terms of them as characters, that is where I had main issues, possibly it would have worked better as an independent film, nothing to do with the Krays.

I felt Simon Cotton did a slightly better job in the role of Ronnie, but only marginally.

Compared to Tom Hardy's film, it's quite a pale comparison, overall a poor follow up to an average opener. 4/10
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3/10
It looked like a Harry Enfield sketch.
Saiph9027 March 2016
I watched Tom Hardy as the Krays which had excellent script good dialogue, top rate acting, then I watched this film and at times it was laugh out loud poor. I take it the bloke who played Reggie Kray must have gone to the shout at every opportunity school of acting. At times it resembled a Harry Enfield sketch with the calm down, calm down lines. The story of the Krays is well known territory but if you were unaware this would have made little or no sense, it really was a disjointed script with dialogue which was painful. Your can not expect the actors to look exactly like Ronnie and Reggie but when you have a character shouting at Reggie "fat poof" while the actor looks anorexic it just looks plain stupid. One of the worst Kray movies I have endured.
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1/10
A total waste of of camera time.
Essex_Rider6 April 2016
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What a load of garbage. I just wasted nearly two hours of my life watching this junk. Not only was it low budget, it was low everything. Low quality acting, characterisation, scripting and just about everything else I can think of.

How the heck this ever made it through to distribution I will never know. My only other regret is that I have to give it at least 1 star, whereas zero or even a negative would have been more appropriate.

I can only assume this will languish in the video rental charts for a while before finally disappearing without trace. It is without a doubt, the worst movie ever made.
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3/10
A B-movie embarrassment
Leofwine_draca29 January 2018
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THE FALL OF THE KRAYS is the sequel to THE RISE OF THE KRAYS and another low rent slice of British crime. These two films are B-movie retellings of the famous Kray story, released to cash in on the renewed popularity of the storyline following in the wake of the Tom Hardy film LEGEND. These B-movies are huge disappointments, failing to offer up anything new and also failing to convince in the process. There are barely any outdoor sequences because the budget didn't stretch to much in the way of 1960s-era authenticity, and all of the set locations look bare and fake. The no-name cast fail to pass muster and the two actors playing Reggie and Ronnie fail to look like them and fail to give worthwhile performances too. They're also way too young. The script is below par and offers some really embarrassing trite dialogue along the way. For my money, the Martin/Gary Kemp version of the story is still the definitive version to go for.
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2/10
Embarrassing..
andymaranam16 February 2019
I feel for the audience. A shambles from start to finish ive seen better children's pantomimes than this horrendous peace of garbage.
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1/10
Better this had never been made
via-helena29 August 2019
Tells 3% of the Krays story. Horribly miscast, the only way they could have done worse was if they'd had Whoopi Goldberg and Julian Clary playing the Kray twins. Inane plot. Badly scripted. Cheap cheap cheap! I hope the Director Zachary Adler, writers Ken & Sebastian Brown and the production team never get another chance at polluting our screens with such drivel again.

Minor saving grace; they had a competent, if uninspiring, cinematographer in Luke Palmer.
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6/10
Treat it as a normal drama
Sulla-27 August 2020
You have to treat it as a normal drama becaujse there are so many mistakes.

Most of the mistakes are with Policeeprocedure. The long haired 'Nipper Read' is not very nipperish and lacks gravitas. He even gets the Police caution wrong and it sounds like something you might hear in an US crime drama/ One of the Police officers handcuiffed to one of the brothers should have retired 20 years ago. IN any case prisoners from the court are in the custody of the prison service, not the police.

The senior Police uniform was wrong as was the name of the rank. Reed's elite squad looked all wrong.

Reed would not be allowed to conduct an identity parade.

I have forgotten the other mistakes.
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8/10
Low budget continuation of the terrible twins' story.
princesscyanide8 January 2016
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This movie,back to back with the first half of their story(The Rise Of The Krays) immediately makes it clear that 2 hours is not enough to tell the story of the UK ganglands' most (in)famous sons.

It dares to tread new ground previously avoided in The Krays(1990) and Legend(2015),exploring the stories of the messy business of the disappearance of Frank'The Mad Axeman'Mitchell and 'Mad'Teddy Smith.Clearly having Mad in your nickname was a dangerous situation if you were an associate of the Krays.

The storyline itself is well presented,albeit with an obviously low budget which,in this telling,actually works quite well,giving this dark period in British history the gritty feel that Legend put too much of a sheen on.In some places though,the acting is cringeworthy.George Cornell delivers the legendary line,"You fat poof",with all the menace of a sulky teenager,and the fact that the actor playing him is carrying a few extra pounds,while the target of his jibe doesn't have an ounce of fat out of place,had this viewer laughing at the exchange,and half-expecting Ron to jibe back"Well,you're fatter than me,George!".That said,the actor playing Cornell certainly looked like the real person.Frankie Fraser has also mutated from a small,slightly built cockney wideboy into a hulking,imposing thug.Jack McVitie also seems to have been reinvented as Jack the occasional hat,as he is more often seen sans his trademark trilby hat,and despite a rather cheesy delivery in the shotgun scene,the actor playing Jack delivers an engaging performance,with the merest hint of comedy during his opening scene.

Kevin Leslie as Reg is largely a support character to Simon Cottons' Ron,and while they have been criticised for not looking alike,I don't think thats too much of a factor.The Kemps didn't look alike either and they ARE brothers.Ron sometimes comes across as a pantomime baddie,with Reg as a brow-beaten subordinate,but many reports suggest that isn't too far from the truth.Leslies performance is just a little too likable for a legendary gangster.He just doesn't have the sinister air about him.

And once again,older brother Charlie seems to have been stricken from the Kray family history.

I don't think this movie is what you could class as 'enjoyable',given the subject matter,but,arguably,it can definitely be labelled as interesting.What it doesn't do is paint them as the legendary heroes that history so often seems to do these days.

It is definitely different from the 1990 movie,which I believe was made long before it should have been,with the Sheas becoming the Lawsons,the Richardsons becoming the Pelhams,the Lambrianous becoming the Ripleys, Jimmy'Cannonball'Lee getting drunk,and Cornell and Jack the Hat being murdered on the same night.

And of course it differs widely from the big-budget 'Legend',which,while being peppered with some hilarious scenes,albeit unintentionally funny in places,is also peppered with falsehoods,errors,and blatant lies in places.and Ron Kray seemingly turned into Eric Morecambe for inspiration.

There are many reasons not to like FOTK.Probably more than there are to like it,but if you forgive the odd ropey acting turn,and you have a curiosity to see various legendary events from the Twins career finally being played out,then this movie is for you.If,however,you know nothing about them,and have no desire to,then maybe Legend would suit you more.

As a movie,Legend beats ROTK and FOTK hands down.But as a biopic this 2-parter wins out.
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6/10
Unfinished Business
richardchatten13 April 2020
Beginning in the year Ron's hero Winston Churchill died. Like 'The Godfather', this second leisurely instalment of vintage cars, sharp suits, psycho violence and designer swearing starts with a wedding and is suffused with a warm nostalgic glow while the Krays despatch George Cornell, Jack 'the Hat' McVittie and sundry other hoods, before (SPOILER COMING:) nemesis eventually arrives in the form of superintendent 'Nipper' Read and society finally gets it's well-earned rest from the gruesome twosome's activities (in what we are told was "the longest criminal trial in English legal history", but which is here disposed of remarkably swiftly after such a lengthy build-up).
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1/10
What a crock of shitte
charleetommy31 July 2021
I watched this film for 40.mins tops while on nightshift I couldn t take no more!! What a insult to The KRAYS , total disgrace.
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7/10
Not the best krays movie but ok
eddieryan-6614429 September 2020
Worth a watch, the actors were a bit young and goofy to play the kray twins, but the story was accurate enough.
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3/10
It could've been so much more
trjash19 March 2018
The Krays, 1960's London, the implosion of Ronald, Reginald and company. So what could go wrong with such a platform to build and craft a wealth of scenes? It would appear much.

The Rise of the Krays (albeit lacking in substance) had the ability to keep the viewer (at least) wondering where the next scene might come from. Sadly, The Fall of the Krays comes with no such hook to grab the attention.

The acting is mediocre at best. In fact the only consistent character is Frances' Mum played by Clare McGlinn. There seems to be an ongoing and unnecessary need for the actors to try and portray the twins like like they were Phil and Grant Mitchel. Overreacting, overacting and not at all believable; the company they keep much the same.

If you're after a quick hit of good old-fashioned violence, mockney accents and loads of shouting after a few pints down the pub, this one's for you. If you want a little more then give Legend a go with Tom Hardy. It's more believable in half the time. If you want to watch a film about the Krays with the Mrs and you're a newby then give the Kemp boys a whirl.

Not the best.
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5/10
Ronnie character
pez41566 August 2020
The Ronnie character with his facial looks was a cross between Ace Ventura and Alex from a Clock Work Orange.

I quite like the film though. Worth a watch.
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The Krays must be turning in their graves
jaykayshat31 August 2019
Luckily I only watched the first 20 minutes as I couldn't endure anymore. Absolute garbage, everyone involved in this film should be ashamed. Hope the lead actors give up their actinf careers as they couldn't act even if their lives depended on it.
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5/10
I'm not too sure.
RatedVforVinny15 November 2018
A tricky review as I have not seen 'The Rise of The Krays' (which reports suggest is far superior). To start with the actors playing the notorious twins do not look anything like each other, so it kind of grated for most of the duration. Despite some intense scenes, key figures in the story only have a few minutes of screen time (which is a shame as there is less character development). The actors themselves are not of the same caliber as other Kray projects and the production costs look pretty threadbare, with such spartan set designs. Saying that the details are pretty accurate and to its credit, concentrates chiefly on the madness of Ronnie; which in all truth was the (utter) root cause of both their infamous rise and crumbling downfall. The friend of Reggie here (and a central core to the story) is based on the real life gangster of Albert Donaghue.
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1/10
Terrible
paulmeldrum-1324420 January 2019
Poor acting, very wooden. Ronnie was a fat bloke the actor playing him is skinny. Not a patch on the Tom Hardy film. Give this a miss, 2hrs of my life I wont get back.
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3/10
Almost comedic
iestynwalton-131-53283710 February 2019
The highlight is Simon Cotton's horrendous acting. Worth watching just to be amused by all the poor acting.
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8/10
Brilliant sequel
fantasticjdw-991-5156728 January 2023
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Story 8/10

Directing 9/10

Editing 9/10

Design 9/10

Costume 9/10

Lead actor 9/10

Second actor 8/10

Support cast 8/10

Lead adversary 9/10

Sound 9/10

Choreography 6/10

Action 9/10

Romance 5/10

Sex 4/10

Dialogue 8/10

Make up 9/10

Music 8/10

Theme tune 4/10

Trailer 9/10

F/X 4/10

CGI 0/10

Worth watching on cinema? Yes

Worth watching on stream? Yes

Worth a sequel? Yes

Overall feel? Fantastic in many ways

Worst bit? Not identical enough

Best bit? Cottons performance

Reminds me of? Well thought out movie making

Original? Yes

Boredom 8/10

Excitement 8/10

Overall one word comment - Cotton

Worth mentioning - In two parts

How I do it differently- Got Cotton to play both parts.
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2/10
Comedy??
robborockstar15 October 2021
Ronnie kray is portrayed as pantomime villain in this . Total nonsense. Lasted an hour and gave up. Don't bother with this . More lumps of wood than a forest.
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4/10
What is it ........ ??
marklaw-3780614 April 2020
What is it about the name "Kray" that causes so many actors to forget all the basic skills of their craft and to switch into "wanna be gangster" mode.

The overacting here was embarrassing.

Avoid.

Actually, the Tom Hardy version was indeed pretty good, which makes this version so awful by comparison.
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8/10
The best of the four Kray movies?
dellovell1 January 2016
GANGLAND/GANGSTER MEMORABILIA MOVIE REVIEW - FALL OF THE KRAYS (2016) Director: Zackary Adler This is the sequel to The Rise Of The Krays. Having secured their empire and their infamy, the brothers must now fight to keep hold of both as the obsession of one police officer becomes entwined with a burgeoning romance and a dangerous state of mind for Reggie and Ronnie respectively.

Cast: George Webster, Simon Cotton, Adrian Bouchet, Kevin Leslie, Josh Myers GGM says: For those of you that didn't like the first movie then you are going to be in for a BIG shock with this movie...because the sequel is GOOD - in fact its VERY good indeed. The story obviously carries on from the first and focuses on the really juicy parts of the Kray story - the Cornell and McVitie murders, the breakout and subsequent murder of Frank Mitchell, and the disappearance of "Mad" Teddy Smith - and to be honest they do it in the way that we all hoped for - something that Tom Hardys "Legend" failed to do miserably.

As the title suggests, this movie goes into when things started going wrong for the twins - which is when it starts to get more interesting for the movie-goer. Reg (Kevin Leslie) has a much bigger part in this movie and as the film builds up to Frances suicide (which is done with dignity and in good taste), we begin to see Reg spiral down into the depths that ultimately became his undoing. The actor does a good job showing the full range of Regs dark moods and violent outbursts - a far stronger performance by Kevin Leslie this time.

Whilst still the lead role, Simon Cotton (Ron), has much less screen time this time out, In the first movie, I felt he was guilty of overacting at times but he plays the part much better here - more controlled. In addition, the character "Dickie Baker" has a significant role in the movie. I think I wrongly assumed in the first movie that Dickie was Dickie Hart (the Krays cousin).but it now appears that Dickie is actually "Albert Donaghue" as his story matches Alberts and reveals his relationship with Lisa Prescott - the hostess brought in for Frank "The Mad Axeman" Mitchell.

Throughout, the movie has some instantly recognisable scenes and uses authentic phrases that we all believe were said by the twins, right down to the immortal "Be a man Jack..." - "I'll be a man but I don't want to die like one".

The film is an accurate portrayal of John Pearsons "Profession Of Violence" and refreshingly include references to all the "unsavioury" parts of the twins lives that the original Kray film was unable to, or were too scared to mention - things like Rons sex parties, Regs inability to make love to Frances, and the twins corrupt dealings with Boothby and Driberg.

Overall, FOTK is a whole lot better than the the first movie and in my opinion, is far more accurate and watchable than Legend. FOTK is the Kray movie we have all hoped for. The fact that the only dodgy bit about the film is Kevin Leslies hair dye is a credit to just how good a movie it is. Put aside the fact that the movie costs a hefty £9.99 to be downloaded from Sky, this is a really good film that all Kray fans will enjoy watching.

All credit to the producers, directors, actors and everybody involved. They have made the movie that Hollywood could'nt. At last, a worthy successor to the original and my favourite out of all four Kray movies.

GGM RATING: * * * * * * * * (8/10)
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im not sure what they were trying here
r221126 July 2018
Very poor movie , both acting and story are very amateur , but when it is vying with tom hardy and the kemp brothers performances it really has to be a little special and sadly its not
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1/10
Absolutely dreadful
Staceyboy12317 April 2020
Wow. The reviews here hit the nail on the head. The 'acting' is like you'd see in a 6th Form school play and the guy playing Reggie may be the worst of the bunch. It's true as someone pointed out - it's like a comedy sketch parody. The sets are sparse and bare with virtually no period detail to invoke the 60's save for the odd car. The men's clothes look like they've just come straight from the Next Directory catatlogue. Everyone looks like a kid dressed up for his first job interview. I think that the set designer and costume person had the 60's described to them over the phone rather than looking at actual photos and footage. The Tom Hardy and the Kemp brother's telling of this tale are in a different world not just a different league.
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