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Today on "lyrics that she might not have intended to have a double meaning but you never know with this woman"

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From "The Alchemy:" "He jokes that it's heroin, but this time with an e," surface level reading of that line is like the relationship is like a drug but heroin + e = "heroine" which is cute! But "e" is also a slang term for ecstasy, so "heroin with an e" can also mean "this love is as potent as TWO drugs!"

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I can only see the heroin line as a joke Travis Kelce said lmao. Taylor tells him her last bf loved heroin more than her and he says well the only heroin I'd do is you. 0% chance he said the with an E part but Taylor likes to tell a story lmao. Even if this isn't true it's the delulu thought I'm keeping.

In So Highschool she says Touch me while your bros play grand theft auto. It's true, promise, scouts honor. And I CANNOT unsee the scouts honor hand sign being a sexual reference instead of just a promise lmao

u/mattysmwift avatar

And she does say she’s trying to stifle her sighs so it’d make sense🤭

u/Daffneigh avatar

There’s no way “scout’s honor” is an unintentional double entendre

Right?? I think Taylor is hilarious and though this album is so angry and sad there are also time I legit laughed out loud. She's an amazing story teller.

u/Bethh1311 avatar

Please could someone explain this inside joke to a non-American?

u/PlainRosemary avatar

Ahem.

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Okay but like. Have you SEEN Travis‘ hands. Good for her.

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The Scouts use a three finger salute that’s often used when saying “scout’s honor,” so the joke is that Travis could be saluting to her

u/mediocre-spice avatar

It's not that common in the US either lol

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Choked on my tea reading that last paragraph. You said the things in my head out loud😂

u/lonelywitch88 avatar

Oh. My. God. I just got it. The scout’s honour thing. No. NO. Make it go away 😭🤣😭🤣

u/PlainRosemary avatar

And you thought it was Florida that would fuck you up.

u/lonelywitch88 avatar

Not like this 😭 I didn’t need to know this 😭

u/PlainRosemary avatar

There's nothing wrong with your heroes liking sex!

Except we when it's slightly exhibitionist sex... 😂

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Omgggggg!!! Taylor!!!!

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WOSM(The World Scouts Organization)can do something really funny for us swiftes girls/boys scouts

Also any double meaning about the scouts honor for me was missed, i just understand it as a promise and commitment.

I guess I have a lot of highschool memories of friends with their boyfriends hands under blankets. 😅

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u/Catastrophic-Blues13 avatar

The scouts honor line definitely seems like it could be a cheeky inside joke between them haha. I definitely have similar jokes with my boyfriend that nobody else would catch onto if they weren’t paying attention lol.

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Have you seen the clip of him doing some hand signal at coachella and she laughs and sticks out her tongue.

u/Catastrophic-Blues13 avatar

This is exactly what I was referencing lmfaooo

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u/lovecraft112 avatar

That is so high school too - hanging out with his friends and fooling around under the blanket.

u/needs_a_name avatar

The man likes e’s. He could have said it. Never forget squirle

Omfggg she has been the most sexual in this album. It makes sense though after getting out of a dead relationship and getting into new ones

u/Intelligent_Turnip24 avatar

It’s giving twilight “it’s like you’re my own personal brand of heroin.” lol. Wonder if he ever came around to watching it 😂 it’s the connection of saying “I’m high off his jokes” in so high school, and then in this line saying he jokes it’s heroin but this time with an E. I think this is how she’s connecting his songs. The man is a jokester.

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I'm just patiently waiting to hear Jason Kelce ask these very questions 😅

I thought it was teach 🫣

I see it as a jab at Matty because he has user tendencies.

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Getting her youth back? I'm not saying it actually happened in the same room or at all, but people get frisky at parties all the time? She's 34 not dead.

u/New_Pilot_2699 avatar

I thought he was just playing online with his friends.. and she was there in person.

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I never thought they were in the same room, I was thinking they went upstairs while his friends were playing downstairs or something. Which is still fun and “so high school” but not icky

u/sweetpotatofriesmeow avatar

Idk I just can’t see Travis knowing how to spell like that

Yes, which is why I said she made up the line. But I can see him saying "He's an asshole, you are the only heroin (drug) I'd do- well besides weed". After all he knows ball and she knows Aristotle.

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You didn't measure up/ in any measure of a man.

Tiny dick joke.

u/PlainRosemary avatar

You didn't measure up / In any measure of a man

You hung me on your wall / Stabbed me with your push-pins

You will never convince me that this word choice was accidental or meaningless. Her lyrics were designed to plunge deeper than his...ah, push pins.

😱😱😱 I’ll never listen to that park the same way again!!!

u/PlainRosemary avatar

So many other ways to phrase it... But no.

But no

  • Let's fast forward to three hundred awkward blind dates later

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The scream I screamt

Omg I didn't catch that lol

Omg just connected the push pins to that. Slay Taylor.

Omgggg

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u/lonelywitch88 avatar

I think the title kinda gave that plot twist away 🤣

If only it did. I can only blame me being so tired when I listened to it for not catching all these 😆

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Stabbing me with your push pins…

u/Mutzikatze avatar

Swinging a sword he could barely lift. (from the prologue)

He couldn't get it up.

See also: The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived

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I dunno if Travis is her forever guy, but I don’t think she will ever be able to go back to scrawny selfish British guys who can’t fuck

I am on this journey with you Taylor 😅

I mean her horny songs about Joe don't paint him in a bad light there I'd say 👀

Joe seems like he’d be solid and willing, for lack of a better term, but sometimes how athletic a person is could matter

Yeah, you’re right! We won’t condemn all Brits for Marty’s inadequacies lol

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u/ambiverbena avatar

She definitely will 

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u/lonelywitch88 avatar

I did not have Taylor Swift name dropping heroin in a song on my 2024 bingo card.

We’ve come a long way from Tim McGraw.

She did say "damn" in that first album though, and let's not forget the original version of Picture to Burn, she always had it in her - I think - but now she's 34 and isn't being held back anymore.

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From So High School, when she says, "No one's ever had me, not like you" - this could have a few different meanings:

-No one's ever really had my heart like you do (just purely happy, without the doubts and anxieties that plagued my past relationships).

-No one's ever had my back like you do (i.e., none of my past partners have celebrated and supported me like you do).

-But there's also "had" in the sexual sense...which fits with some of the other implications of the song!

u/Daffneigh avatar

Bettin’ on all’ three

Same. I am picturing a loyal celebratory man who hands out orgasms like candy

What is the first thing you would do if you were Taylor Swift for one day?

Travis Kelce

lmao okay this got me

I mean you’re not wrong 🫢

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Ha, I think so too! And I think the convergence of all three meanings is that - finally, this is a relationship that is working on all levels, one that is healthy instead of toxic, and mutually fulfilling.

u/Sufficient_Cress5968 avatar

Nice 😊

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u/PhillinOut9091 avatar

I 100% only thought sexual meaning since the moment I first heard it. Guess my mind is in the gutter. Lol

u/angelangelgunshot77 avatar

The whole song seems to be about fooling around sexually with his friends in the room so I only took this as sexual lol

u/Intelligent_Turnip24 avatar

Agreed! She says a lot in that line. Also in the prologue she writes “ he didn’t scratch the surface of me, none of them did”. And then in his song she says no one’s ever had me, not like you. So I think it connects to that. However it coming right after the sexual lines makes me also think sexual chemistry 😂

Ah, that's another meaning! "Had" as in "understood" - so she's saying no one else has ever understood her as well (or understood what she most needed from a partner). I think this plays into the sexual chemistry as well - as beyond immediate attraction that's all about communication and attention to the detail of what your partner needs.

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I think it’s a call back to MH and his addiction issues, but with Travis it’s heroine.

u/Careless-Clock3462 avatar

This is how I interpret it based on how she sings it. I think this song is less of a specific recounting than a lot of people seem to, though. I think she is alluding to how she is viewed by different men: this new one (Travis, we assume) sees her as something wonderful and worthy of reverence, with a deep respect for her place in his life while to previous men (likely Matty), she has been more like a drug, intoxicating and addicting but also something that wears off and is not respected for what it actually is.

Yeah that’s a fair interpretation too!

This lyric wasn't sitting right with me but I love your interpretation of it!

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u/Altruistic-Effect185 avatar

I think it’s that as well as a reference to her believing she is the anti-hero where as to him, she’s the heroine

u/Intelligent_Turnip24 avatar

Wait this is a great take that I haven’t seen before.

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u/lovelucyxx_ avatar

i saw someone interpret it as how in football, any drugs (especially performance-enhancing ones) aren’t allowed, but SHE’s like his drug making him better, hence heroin with an e

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That's what I thought and think is the most cute explanation

This is the only way I ever interpreted it - why would she be calling back to Matty's heroin addiction in this song? Also, why would Travis be talking about it?

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u/teresasdorters avatar

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-1975-matty-healy-heroin-addiction-intervention-1234609776/

Marty definitely had a heroin addiction at some point! I can see Travis making a joke out of it to make her feel better

I know this was just a typo but I love casually calling that turd some random name.

Apple Auto-Correction stans Marty.

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u/LastOnBoard avatar

Marty

I vote we call him this from now on

u/teresasdorters avatar

I couldn’t be bothered to fix it😆💀

u/LastOnBoard avatar

I mean, he couldn't be bothered to fix himself, so let's give him that same energy

u/teresasdorters avatar

I like the way you think!

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u/Intelligent_Turnip24 avatar

Also - I’m surprised that people aren’t talking more about him still having an addiction of something and how that also affected her. I can’t recall the songs, but there’s one where she said in public he would show her off, but in private he would slink off into stoned oblivion. Then of course, him trying to buy pills from a friend of a friend. And then in the poem Stevie nicks wrote, she is referencing him in a way that makes it seem he was constantly high. Also her saying he needed drugs more and she couldn’t watch it happen in another song. It seems that even when together, he was constantly on something. I wouldn’t be surprised if she told Travis and that’s why he joked about it. There were a lot of issues between them - her fame and her fans were not all of it.

I don't think this at all - the line is talking about Travis winning football games and he's joking that he's not taking any drugs to win, but it's Taylor that's helping him, hence heroin with an e.

u/angelangelgunshot77 avatar

This is an unpopular opinion but I think the alchemy is actually about matty - he’s saying he’s got heroin again but this time with an E. I think the sports framing is a metaphor that coincidentally ended up fitting her next boyfriend. The song makes a lot of references to returning to an old love etc, just like all the other songs. I think if she weren’t dating a football player right now there would be no question that this song is about the same person as the other love songs on part 1.

u/Calm_Guide4014 avatar

Unpopular opinion or no you’ve convinced me! I felt this song was strangely melancholic to be about Kelce. Touch down = her plane touching down in MH’s country. “I haven’t come around in so long” / “the sign on your heart said it’s still reserved for me” those lines just wouldn’t make sense if it wasn’t about a rekindled love lol. Plus the “blokes” Britishism. In retrospect seems obvious - now I’m wondering how much of the football double entendres were intentional? Maybe she wrote this song and then revisited it/leaned more into the football imagery after she began dating Kelce? Because it also seems less coincidence and more wink

u/Odd_Grapefruit_5714 avatar

Also alchemy is not a compliment! It’s not a happy song!

u/angelangelgunshot77 avatar

Yes!! I was literally like I don’t get this, does she not understand what alchemy means? Does she mean chemistry????