David Duchovny and Rosemarie DeWitt play cousins who are completely and utterly awful people in the new black comedy “The Estate.”
But then, every major character in “The Estate,” which also stars Toni Collette, Anna Faris, and Kathleen Turner, is just as terrible. And that, DeWitt and Duchovny say, is what made it so much fun to make.
“It was super fun and rewarding,” DeWitt says. “And weirdly, it’s not a lot of work upfront because the characters don’t change. They start out awful and they stay awful.
“So you get to tap into all these parts of yourself, like revenge fantasy,” she says. “Anything you have that you don’t like about yourself, you get to put it all into the character.”
Duchovny agreed, saying it felt invigorating in a strange way to play a character with no limits – for better or worse (and almost always worse).
“I think to play a character who’s unapologetic is a gift,” Duchovny says. “In real life, and in dramas, we spend our lives apologizing for the things that we want, that we’re either ashamed of, or afraid to say out loud.
“You get a character like Richard who just says those things out loud and says them without any kind of sense that it’s embarrassing or humiliating or wrong,” he says. “And it’s kind of like having a superpower, you know, being on set like that.”
In “The Estate,” Kathleen Turner plays Aunt Hilda, a very wealthy, very mean, very lonely woman. When news that she’s dying surfaces, her nephew and nieces race to her mansion on St. Charles Avenue in New Orleans to ingratiate themselves to her, and hopefully, into her will.
Toni Collette and Anna Faris play sisters Macey and Savanna, who see Aunt Hilda’s estate as a chance to save the family diner in a worn-down neighborhood across town. DeWitt plays Beatrice, a woman whose smile hides a desperate willingness to do anything to get Hilda’s money.
Duchovny is Richard, though he announces he now prefers Dick, who while dim in almost every way has had the foresight to stay in touch with Aunt Hilda via phone calls and texts, and is in the lead to grab the estate as long as he doesn’t mess things up.
Spoiler alert: All of them mess things up in terrible, ridiculous, awful, and hilarious ways.
Cast chemistry
Many in the cast – which includes Ron Livingston, DeWitt’s real-life husband, as her hapless movie husband James – had worked with each other in the past.
Duchovny had cast Kathleen Turner in his Showtime series “Californication.” DeWitt costarred with Toni Collette in the same network’s “United States of Tara.”
Duchovny had worked with Collette in the 2004 comedy “Connie and Carla,” but he and DeWitt had never collaborated, and some, such as Keyla Monterroso Mejia who plays Ellen, the younger half-sister of Macey and Savanna, were new to everyone.
“I don’t know, chemistry just isn’t an issue for me,” DeWitt says of how the cast quickly came together during the month on location in New Orleans. “It’s just a really generous experience when everybody kind of comes in. It almost feels like summer camp, or repertory theater or something where everyone just rolls up their sleeves and goes, ‘We don’t have a lot of time, we’re just gonna do this.’
“Rather than like, let’s say, like a huge budget comedy where people are really invested in how funny they are,” she says. “Or the jokes landing. It’s sort of the opposite. It’s literally like vaudeville or something in the best way.”
For Duchovny, the different backgrounds or performance styles of the cast blended together like disparate ingredients into a memorable gumbo.
“I think that for me, making a movie like this with these very different kinds of performers, all of them are good,” he says. “And everybody has their own kind of milieu and their own kind of vibe that they bring to the scene, or you know, their own kind of brand of comedy that they bring to the scene.
“I really love that discovery of, ‘OK, here’s a new person that I haven’t worked with,’” Duchovny says. “Here’s Rosemarie and we’re doing a scene. I’m gonna get to know her comedically right now, and this is cool. And now we’re trying to throw the ball back and forth together, you know, even though maybe we don’t work exactly the same way.
“Keyla, exactly the same way,” Duchovny says. “Like, weirdo stuff coming at me. Like, Oh my God, that’s off the wall. But I love that. It’s just cool to see everybody’s freak flag in this comedic sense. You know, like, they get to fly it a little bit because you’re making a comedy, and you’re just going for it.”
Making bad choices
In a story where everyone makes wildly inappropriate choices, DeWitt as Beatrice probably makes the worst. Duchovny as Dick repeatedly tries to hook up with Collette’s Macey – not good, Dick! – but Beatrice asks her husband James to seduce dying Aunt Hilda, and honestly, it’s hard to top that.
“That part was really fun,” DeWitt says of being able to play a fictional married couple with her real-life husband. “The stage of life that we’re at, family dictates everything. And it’s not my tiny violin, but women, we turn a lot of roles down, work, to be moms, dad’s out of town.
“So it was a great package deal to say how about we bring the whole family to New Orleans for a month and have them go to school there for a month,” she says. That was the easy sell, I think for Ron. He’s also a really big supporter and fan of mine. Like he wants me to be happy. He wants to show up and have that role be funny and me doing it funny.”
Even when the role she’s playing requires her to be so, so mean, too – something DeWitt admits wasn’t entirely easy for her.
“It almost kills me to watch him be so emasculated,” DeWitt says. “Like I hate it. I’m like, ‘Don’t ever do that role again. And don’t ever let me talk to you like that.’ You know, because he’s my beloved. I love him so much.
Kathleen Turner steals most of the scenes in which she appears, in a role that like the sex-crazed talent agency owner she played in “Californication” finds her as fearless as ever on screen, Duchovny says.
“She needs to know why this person is doing that,” he says of Turner’s process on set. “You know, she won’t just do it. Whereas, I’m kind of shameless and I’ll do anything for a laugh. But she’ll ask, ‘What’s the reality behind this?’ And once she understands that her commitment is there.
“Kathleen is so present in the scenes that – not that you would ever like miss a beat – but you couldn’t with her,” DeWitt says. “She’s right there and she cares about it so much. You know when you say she’s had this long, amazing career, and you would think she could just be like, ‘I have this amazing voice, I know how to do it.’
“But she doesn’t,” DeWitt says. “She fully finds you every time in the scene. And if something wasn’t good, she’ll be like, ‘We should do it again. Because you know if it’s her, me or David, whoever, she just wants to get back in there, and she wants it to sing.
“And that’s the really thrilling part of acting,” she says.
“There was also something very childlike about her in this,” Duchovny adds. “She was like a big baby in a way (as Aunt Hilda). Just wanted her needs met. And there was something very, very vulnerable and kind of honest about that.”
A different sensibility
“The Estate” was written and directed by the English filmmaker Dean Craig, whose British sensibilities fully embraced the bad behavior of its characters, Duchovny says.
“I think as Americans, we’re afraid right now of crossing boundaries,” Duchovny says. “With good reason. I mean, we’re living through a political moment where we’re all hyper-aware of these things. And we’re unsure of what comedy can do, or what comedy should be allowed to do.
“And I think the British, even though they’re living through the same world moment that we are, I think they’re looking over their shoulders a little less than we are,” he says.
As for why we like to watch people behaving badly on screen, Duchovny compares it to the reason we enjoy breaking taboos on holidays such as Halloween.
“It’s the king falling on his ass, and the king has no clothes,” he says. “That’s what comedy and life is all about. So Halloween is all about you know, ghosts and you know, evil things coming to walk the earth, and comedy is all about turning the moral structures upside down.
“We laugh because we’re shocked,” he says.
“Feelings get hurt, relationships get ruined, but there’s something so delicious to watch people be the worst versions of themselves,” DeWitt says. “And then we feel good at the end of the movie, right?”
