Goodreads Top 100 Literary Novels of All Time
"The Goodreads Top 100 Literary Novels of All Time List" represents a list of 100 literary novels recommended by the Goodreads Serious Literature Group for voting by all Goodreads Members via Listopia. PLEASE DO NOT ADD BOOKS TO THIS LIST.
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Sep 15, 2011 01:49PM
How was this list created? (i.e. how was it determined which books would be on list and which wouldn't)?
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Our group accepted recommendations from Goodreaders and then debated the most worthy ones. Feel free to review the thread from the outset. It was essentially a collaborative effort among our group of Goodreaders of literary novels over a few weeks.
Dear Goodreads,
"P+P" plus "Jane Eyre" at the top of our all-time list of literary novels? Really?
Can't we do better than this?
"P+P" plus "Jane Eyre" at the top of our all-time list of literary novels? Really?
Can't we do better than this?
"She makes me detest all her people, without reserve. Is that her intention? It is not believable. Then is it her purpose to make the reader detest her people up to the middle of the book and like them in the rest of the chapters? That could be. That would be high art. It would be worth while, too. Some day I will examine the other end of her books and see." - "Jane Austen," published in 2009 in "Who Is Mark Twain?"
Odd it certainly is, for "1984" is #2. I love that book, (I'm reading it nowadays, and I even voted for it) but #2 is too high. I would have expected Ulysses or Metamorphosis to do better.
1984, like the rest of the top five, is pretty frequently assigned in school, I think (I know I read all of them there), so a lot of people have actually read them. Frequency bias.
Susanna wrote: "1984, like the rest of the top five, is pretty frequently assigned in school, I think (I know I read all of them there), so a lot of people have actually read them. Frequency bias."
Okay. I have no problem with Huck Finn in the top 5, though. Now THAT was a great book, totally. And, as I said before, Ulysses, Metamorphosis and Don Quixote should be higher.
Okay. I have no problem with Huck Finn in the top 5, though. Now THAT was a great book, totally. And, as I said before, Ulysses, Metamorphosis and Don Quixote should be higher.
What a great list! Makes me realise how many classics I still need to read though... a bit depressing :)
Fantastic list! I feel reluctant to vote though. I'm ashamed to admit I haven't read any Dostoyevsky yet, and I've only read James Joyce's short stories. Keep the list posted, and I'll come back when I feel better qualified!
Colin wrote: "Fantastic list! I feel reluctant to vote though. I'm ashamed to admit I haven't read any Dostoyevsky yet, and I've only read James Joyce's short stories. Keep the list posted, and I'll come back wh..."
Yes, it's a pretty good list. I contributed too. I feel proud of myself, sorta. And yes, I plan to read Dostoevsky too! I have Notes from Underground in my collection, read a bit, loved it.........so I guess he's a great author. And I've read some of Finnegans Wake online. It was awesome :)
Yes, it's a pretty good list. I contributed too. I feel proud of myself, sorta. And yes, I plan to read Dostoevsky too! I have Notes from Underground in my collection, read a bit, loved it.........so I guess he's a great author. And I've read some of Finnegans Wake online. It was awesome :)
Wait, who added Breakfast of Champions and Atlas Shrugged now? Seriously, first Catcher in the Rye, then this..........next To Kill a Mockingbird will be popping up out of nowhere.
Catcher and TKAM are YA novels, which Tayyab has added to his top 100 list of books for younger readers. If we were to turn our existing list of literary novels upside down, it seems to me, then we would have a better ranking of true literary novels. I am deeply disappointed that Goodreaders appear to have so mis-ranked this particular list. We must be reading too many books about vampires, Harry Potter and romance. Come on, people, can't we dig deeper?
Ah yes that makes sense. While Mockingbird is a very deserving novel, putting it in a separate catagory means more great books on great lists. I've added books from here to my "to read" list because of that, which is about the best contribution Goodreads can make.
Dear Colin,
In case you haven't heard this enough lately, you're a good man. Thank you for your valued input on this list.
Cordially,
David
In case you haven't heard this enough lately, you're a good man. Thank you for your valued input on this list.
Cordially,
David
David wrote: "Catcher and TKAM are YA novels, which Tayyab has added to his top 100 list of books for younger readers. If we were to turn our existing list of literary novels upside down, it seems to me, then we..."
It seems about right to me, but.........*gasp* Why are "Finnegans Wake", "Tristram Shandy" and "War and Peace" THAT low?
It seems about right to me, but.........*gasp* Why are "Finnegans Wake", "Tristram Shandy" and "War and Peace" THAT low?
Colin wrote: "Ah yes that makes sense. While Mockingbird is a very deserving novel, putting it in a separate catagory means more great books on great lists. I've added books from here to my "to read" list becaus..."
I was thinking the same, that Catcher and Mockingbird were more suited to a "Greatest Children's Books" list than a "Greatest Literary Novels" list. Oh, anyway, that reminds me, I really must be getting on with my list......
I was thinking the same, that Catcher and Mockingbird were more suited to a "Greatest Children's Books" list than a "Greatest Literary Novels" list. Oh, anyway, that reminds me, I really must be getting on with my list......
Actually, David, looking over this list, I realized that while it does include "V." and "Mason & Dixon" by Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" which is, I've heard, his most famous novel, is not included..........is this a case of "Well, nobody nominated it" or "Well, it didn't deserve a place on the list, therefore it was taken off"?
I have read three of the Pynchon novels that you mention and all are great. Pynchon is worthy of a Nobel Prize for Literature for the body of his work. Pynchon is well represented on our list. I prefer "Mason & Dixon" of the three. This list isn't about what is "popular" because then it would be full of best-sellers. The intent of this list is to encourage people to get beyond popular works into truly great literary novels which have survived the test of time. Goodreaders seem obsessed by popular works with zero literary merit. Hence, this list.
David wrote: "I have read three of the Pynchon novels that you mention and all are great. Pynchon is worthy of a Nobel Prize for Literature for the body of his work. Pynchon is well represented on our list. I pr..."
But this list is half filled with "popular" works. And I know it isn't about "popular", i also meant that it was the most critically acclaimed of the three.
But this list is half filled with "popular" works. And I know it isn't about "popular", i also meant that it was the most critically acclaimed of the three.
I understand your perfectly valid point. The most important aspect is that because of this list more Goodreaders will pick-up and read masterpieces. Thank you for your help in building this list, Tayyab.
Hm... why Slaughterhouse-Five and not Cat's Cradle? I am far from being the only person who thinks it's a much better book.
I would also like to add that the reason so many of the most popular books rank on top of this list is that many Goodreaders are younger and haven't yet gotten around to many of the more challenging masterpieces. I refer to "War and Peace," "Ulysses," "Don Quixote" and the novels of Proust, for example. Yet these young Goodreaders absolutely are on the right track and will be genuinely rewarded intellectually when they are ready take on the greatest novels.
Manny wrote: "Hm... why Slaughterhouse-Five and not Cat's Cradle? I am far from being the only person who thinks it's a much better book."
Well, now that's the exact opposite of the Thomas Pynchon case. "Slaughterhouse-Five" is generally more popular.
Well, now that's the exact opposite of the Thomas Pynchon case. "Slaughterhouse-Five" is generally more popular.
David wrote: "I would also like to add that the reason so many of the most popular books rank on top of this list is that many Goodreaders are younger and haven't yet gotten around to many of the more challengin..."
I agree on your point about "War and Peace", etc. I always thought that they should be MUCH higher...
I agree on your point about "War and Peace", etc. I always thought that they should be MUCH higher...
David wrote: "I understand your perfectly valid point. The most important aspect is that because of this list more Goodreaders will pick-up and read masterpieces. Thank you for your help in building this list, T..."
You're welcome. Anyway, I was thinking, could we update this list next year or something?
You're welcome. Anyway, I was thinking, could we update this list next year or something?
Dear Manny,
I'm comfortable with "Slaughterhouse Five" because of its epic scope during the bombing of Dresden in WWII. Vonnegut was a scout for the front lines and was actually captured and so his experience in the wake of this tragedy seems to emanate luminously from the book through the eyes of Billy Pilgrim, possibly one of the the greatest names ever for a character in a novel. My favorite Vonnegut book is actually the lesser read "Bluebeard," which is hilarious in many places and very highly recommended.
I'm comfortable with "Slaughterhouse Five" because of its epic scope during the bombing of Dresden in WWII. Vonnegut was a scout for the front lines and was actually captured and so his experience in the wake of this tragedy seems to emanate luminously from the book through the eyes of Billy Pilgrim, possibly one of the the greatest names ever for a character in a novel. My favorite Vonnegut book is actually the lesser read "Bluebeard," which is hilarious in many places and very highly recommended.
David wrote: "Dear Manny,
I'm comfortable with "Slaughterhouse Five" because of its epic scope during the bombing of Dresden in WWII. Vonnegut was a scout for the front lines and was actually captured and so his..."
You just made me want to read Vonnegut even more.
I'm comfortable with "Slaughterhouse Five" because of its epic scope during the bombing of Dresden in WWII. Vonnegut was a scout for the front lines and was actually captured and so his..."
You just made me want to read Vonnegut even more.
Anyway, David, have you ever reviewed either Catcher, Lord of the Flies or Mockingbird? I noticed that you review many of the books that you mention in discussions and all.
David wrote: "I leave these great YA novels to you to review, Tayyab, as I read them so many years ago."
Well, actually, like Huck Finn, they were adult novels originally.
Well, actually, like Huck Finn, they were adult novels originally.
It is sorta ironic to see "PLEASE DO NOT ADD BOOKS TO THIS LIST." right beside "Anyone can add books to this list."
David wrote: "God, the ranking of this list is pitiful."
Well David, it's like Homer Simpson said "When will people learn... democracy doesn't work!"
Well David, it's like Homer Simpson said "When will people learn... democracy doesn't work!"
No idea, David. Might take a SuperLibrarian, as I don't see that option on the edit page for this list.
ETA: You might also be happier with this being a "challenge" list, which people don't vote on directly. Which also freezes it from having new books added to it.
ETA: You might also be happier with this being a "challenge" list, which people don't vote on directly. Which also freezes it from having new books added to it.
Susanna wrote: "No idea, David. Might take a SuperLibrarian, as I don't see that option on the edit page for this list.
ETA: You might also be happier with this being a "challenge" list, which people don't vote ..."
Yeah, I think you can only delete a list you created if no one else voted on it yet. After that, it belongs to the people!
ETA: You might also be happier with this being a "challenge" list, which people don't vote ..."
Yeah, I think you can only delete a list you created if no one else voted on it yet. After that, it belongs to the people!
Dunno.. I'd say Atlas Shrugged deserves to be in this list, so do Catcher in the Rye and Lord of the Rings
David wrote: "How do I delete it?"
Why delete ? Are you surprised Jane Austen novel who is a popular classic, overrated novel is so high on the list? Other than that the top 15-20 books looks like impressive literary strong novels.
What do you got against 1984? Its not literary strong at all in your opinion ?
Why delete ? Are you surprised Jane Austen novel who is a popular classic, overrated novel is so high on the list? Other than that the top 15-20 books looks like impressive literary strong novels.
What do you got against 1984? Its not literary strong at all in your opinion ?
"1984" belongs on the Top 100 Literary Novels List but surely not ranked ahead of "Ulysses", "War and Peace","In Search of Lost Time", "Finnegan's Wake", "Don Quixote", "Brothers K.", "Augie March", "Alexandria Quartet", "Life and Fate", "Moby Dick", "Lost Illusions", "Moby Dick", "Huckleberry Finn", "Anna Karenina"...
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