Tango01 | 29 Jul 2021 8:47 p.m. PST |
…of the battle of Borodino Of possible interest? PDF link
Armand |
SHaT1984 | 30 Jul 2021 12:01 a.m. PST |
Indeed he may have been, though I can't say, but he's more commonly known as the uncommon Davout. Napoleons best surviving General and Marshal of the Empire. |
Brechtel198 | 30 Jul 2021 3:20 a.m. PST |
The spelling of the original name was d'Avout but that was changed, as were those of other nobles, to Davout. It was never spelled 'Devout', at least not by himself or the French. The I Corps in the Russian campaign was a renumbering of the III Corps. Same commanders, generally the same troops except that it was larger and more than the original three divisions. It should also be remembered that the III Corps in 1809 numbered over 60,000 at the beginning of the campaign. Davout also commanded the XIII Corps in 1813-1814 which included the famous defense of Hamburg. |
Dave Jackson | 30 Jul 2021 3:49 a.m. PST |
On the Arc de Triomphe it is spelled "Davoust"… |
Brechtel198 | 30 Jul 2021 5:32 a.m. PST |
Then whoever placed it there mispelled the name…🤦♂️ The guiding 'principle' should be how did Davout spell his own name… 👍 I've seen the British spelling of Louis de Tousard's last name as 'Toussard' which is also incorrect. Davout's portrait in the Musee de l'Armee in Les Invalides spells it 'Davout.' Some English pubications also spell Reynier incorrectly, as 'Regnier.' |
Tango01 | 30 Jul 2021 3:31 p.m. PST |
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SHaT1984 | 03 Oct 2021 3:20 p.m. PST |
Meh. Finally d/l the issue and really, boring is best I'd give it. Repeating quotations of Russian 'intelligence' on what he was and wasn't doing, with a copout paragraph in conclusion- we tried… Although well beyond my sphere of interest period, it was nothing but a pale tale of prose- those 'unseen quote', hardly newsworthy. As a final blow- as usual, suffers from translators windage of converting European sex-form terms into non-gender English wording. Academic fail, 2/10, sorry buddy. For others- don't! Will delete file now ;-(') regards dave |
Brechtel198 | 05 Oct 2021 9:10 a.m. PST |
There is an interesting article on Davout on the Napoleon Series website by John Gallaher: link A weakness of the article is Bourrienne's ghost-written memoirs, which are inaccurate and unreliable, are used as a source. Using Segur's volume on the Russian campaign is also a weakness. It should be remembered that Gourgaud also wrote a memoir of the Russian campaign which is more accurate than Segur's. The argument grew to become a duel between the two, where Gourgaud shot de Segur, wounding him. |
von Winterfeldt | 08 Oct 2021 4:18 a.m. PST |
Davout and Napoleon: A Study of Their Personal Relationship link
this unfortunately ever so ignored article explains a lot
Thus by the opening of the Russian Campaign the relationship between Napoleon and Davout had already begun to deteriorate. |
Brechtel198 | 08 Oct 2021 8:41 a.m. PST |
I already posted the link and remarked upon it and the use of dubious historical source material used for the article. Have you read the Iron Marshal by Gallaher? |
Brechtel198 | 08 Oct 2021 3:29 p.m. PST |
What is also interesting is that if the relationship between Davout and Napoleon did deteriorate, Davout remained loyal and refused to swear an oath to the Bourbons. Contrast that with Marmont's treason in 1814, and he was one of Napoleon's oldest friends, and it clearly demonstrates the difference in character and loyalty between Davout and Marmont. |