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Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:48pm On Nov 26, 2015

Are Roman Catholicism and Christianity the same thing? https://carm.org/is-catholicism-christian

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by ify84(m): 9:18pm On Nov 26, 2015

We have Islam, Roman catholism and Christianity. .. Plus all others

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:34am On Nov 30, 2015

OLAADEGBU: Are Roman Catholicism and Christianity the same thing? https://carm.org/is-catholicism-christian Is Roman Catholicism and Christianity the same thing? by Matt Slick No, Roman Catholicism and Christianity are not the same thing. Christianity is properly defined by certain doctrines that are revealed in the Bible. It is not defined by simply saying that as long as you believe in Jesus that you're a Christian. Mormons believe in Jesus, but their Jesus is a brother of the devil in the pre-existence. The Jesus of the Jehovah's Witnesses is Michael the Archangel. So, just saying that you believe in Jesus doesn't make you a Christian. This is why the Bible tells us who Jesus really is--God in flesh, creator of the universe. Likewise, there are essential doctrines, and if any of those essential doctrines are violated, then a church would only appear to be Christian but not really be Christian. What are those doctrines? The Bible tells us. Let's take a look. TBC... 1 Like 2 Shares

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:11pm On Dec 08, 2015

OLAADEGBU: Is Roman Catholicism and Christianity the same thing? by Matt Slick No, Roman Catholicism and Christianity are not the same thing. Christianity is properly defined by certain doctrines that are revealed in the Bible. It is not defined by simply saying that as long as you believe in Jesus that you're a Christian. Mormons believe in Jesus, but their Jesus is a brother of the devil in the pre-existence. The Jesus of the Jehovah's Witnesses is Michael the Archangel. So, just saying that you believe in Jesus doesn't make you a Christian. This is why the Bible tells us who Jesus really is--God in flesh, creator of the universe. Likewise, there are essential doctrines, and if any of those essential doctrines are violated, then a church would only appear to be Christian but not really be Christian. What are those doctrines? The Bible tells us. Let's take a look. TBC... 1. There is only one God, and you are to serve no other gods (Exodus 20:3, Isaiah 43:10, 44:6,8 ). 2. Jesus is both God and man (John 1:1, 14, 8:24, Col. 2:9, 1 John 4:1-4). 3. Jesus rose from the dead physically (John 2:19-21, 1 Cor. 15:14). 4. Salvation is by grace through faith (Rom. 5:1, Eph. 2:8-9, Gal. 3:1-2, 5:1-4). 5. The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus according to the Scriptures (1 Cor. 15:1-4, Gal. 1:8-9). 6. God is a Trinity (Matt. 28:19, 1 Cor. 12:4-6, 2 Cor. 13:14). 7. Jesus was born of the virgin Mary (Matt. 1:25). TBC...

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by CoolUsername: 12:40pm On Dec 08, 2015

The Catholic Church was the first church, then some guys started to feel all high and mighty and violently broke away. They even ripped some books out of the original bible. Countless lives were lost in the process. So; yes, Catholics practise the purest form of christianity you can get. Just for your info. 3 Likes

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:09pm On Dec 10, 2015

OLAADEGBU: 1. There is only one God, and you are to serve no other gods (Exodus 20:3, Isaiah 43:10, 44:6,8 ). 2. Jesus is both God and man (John 1:1, 14, 8:24, Col. 2:9, 1 John 4:1-4). 3. Jesus rose from the dead physically (John 2:19-21, 1 Cor. 15:14). 4. Salvation is by grace through faith (Rom. 5:1, Eph. 2:8-9, Gal. 3:1-2, 5:1-4). 5. The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus according to the Scriptures (1 Cor. 15:1-4, Gal. 1:8-9). 6. God is a Trinity (Matt. 28:19, 1 Cor. 12:4-6, 2 Cor. 13:14). 7. Jesus was born of the virgin Mary (Matt. 1:25). TBC... So, someone who is a true Christian will believe these things and not violate them. Roman Catholicism violates two of them (#1 and #4). First of all, by its practice of promoting Mary (and the Saints) to the level of God-like capabilities, they break the commandment to have no other gods before the true and living God. In Roman Catholicism, they say that Mary is the mediatrix (Catechism of the Catholic Church paragraph 969), Mary made atonement for the sins of man (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, page 213), and Mary is the subject of preaching and worship (Vatican Council II, p. 420), etc. Also, Catholicism violates the Biblical doctrine of salvation by grace through faith alone. Paul the apostle, for example, tells us in Romans 4:5, "But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness." But Roman Catholicism denies that and says, " . . . so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the Commandments," (CCC, par 2068). Also, consider this: "If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema," (Council of Trent, Canons on Justification, Canon 9). So, even though Roman Catholicism claims to be Christian and that it is the one true church, it violates the essentials of the Christian faith. It goes beyond what is written in God's Word (1 Cor. 4:6). It denies the sole and true sovereignty of the living God by promoting prayer to and the worship of Mary. Also, it denies justification by faith alone in Christ alone. It is not a Christian church. 1 Like 1 Share

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:02pm On Dec 30, 2015

CoolUsername: The Catholic Church was the first church, then some guys started to feel all high and mighty and violently broke away. They even ripped some books out of the original bible. Countless lives were lost in the process. So; yes, Catholics practise the purest form of christianity you can get. Just for your info. What was in the 'original bible' and who was the cause of the loss of countless lives?

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by CoolUsername: 4:55pm On Dec 30, 2015

OLAADEGBU: What was in the 'original bible' and who was the cause of the loss of countless lives? The original bible had some extra books like: Tobith, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon. Bel and the Dragon, and Maccabees. The Thirty Years' War between the Protestants and the Catholics caused the death of thousands of people. 2 Likes

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:13pm On Dec 30, 2015

CoolUsername: The original bible had some extra books like: Tobith, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon. Bel and the Dragon, and Maccabees. That is why they called it 'extra-biblical books'. They were not in the original. CoolUsername: The Thirty Years' War between the Protestants and the Catholics caused the death of thousands of people. It was not a war but rather the Roman Catholic inquisition and persecution of true Christians. Watch the Lamp in the dark for details.

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by Ultimus: 6:19pm On Dec 30, 2015

Roman Catholicism is the first organized form of Christianity and from it came all other forms of Christianity that you see today 3 Likes

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:32pm On Dec 30, 2015

Ultimus: Roman Catholicism is the first organized form of Christianity and from it came all other forms of Christianity that you see today Watch the documentary and find out what's all about. https://www.nairaland.com/2767149/lamp-dark-full-documentary-untold

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:23pm On Mar 03, 2016

ify84: We have Islam, Roman catholism and Christianity. .. Plus all others I'll suggest that you read up on this thread ==> https://www.nairaland.com/2963866/christian-doctrine-grid

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by Raphael81(m): 11:21pm On Mar 03, 2016

so mr old preacher, which church compile bible? if the catholic church is false, then what about the bible, would it affect the validity?yeye man 1 Like

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by Zoe99(f): 7:00am On Mar 04, 2016

i asked a filipino facebook friend about his belief.He said they were roman catholics.I then told him that catholicism is under christianity and that christianity is his religion.He insisted that he was not a christian but a catholic.He kept on trying to explain to me that Christianity is different from catholicism.I've had this kind of conversation with others too.This shows that some people don't believe that catholics are christians. 1 Like

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by Nobody: 12:22pm On Mar 04, 2016

OLAADEGBU: So, someone who is a true Christian will believe these things and not violate them. Roman Catholicism violates two of them (#1 and #4). First of all, by its practice of promoting Mary (and the Saints) to the level of God-like capabilities, they break the commandment to have no other gods before the true and living God. In Roman Catholicism, they say that Mary is the mediatrix (Catechism of the Catholic Church paragraph 969), Mary made atonement for the sins of man (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, page 213), and Mary is the subject of preaching and worship (Vatican Council II, p. 420), etc. Also, Catholicism violates the Biblical doctrine of salvation by grace through faith alone. Paul the apostle, for example, tells us in Romans 4:5, "But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness." But Roman Catholicism denies that and says, " . . . so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the Commandments," (CCC, par 2068). Also, consider this: "If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema," (Council of Trent, Canons on Justification, Canon 9). So, even though Roman Catholicism claims to be Christian and that it is the one true church, it violates the essentials of the Christian faith. It goes beyond what is written in God's Word (1 Cor. 4:6). It denies the sole and true sovereignty of the living God by promoting prayer to and the worship of Mary. Also, it denies justification by faith alone in Christ alone. It is not a Christian church. Hmmmm so why do you think Matt Slick refrains from quoting the Catechism where it calls Mary mediatrix of grace, or why he doesn't quote verbatim Ludwig Ott "Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma"? Maybe it's because he is a charlatan and a liar. Also how exactly is Trent wrong on justification? Didn't Jesus explicitly say that baptism is necessary for salvation?

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by Nobody: 12:29pm On Mar 04, 2016

Zoe99: i asked a filipino facebook friend about his belief.He said they were roman catholics.I then told him that catholicism is under christianity and that christianity is his religion.He insisted that he was not a christian but a catholic.He kept on trying to explain to me that Christianity is different from catholicism.I've had this kind of conversation with others too.This shows that some people don't believe that catholics are christians. My dear if you want to know about the Catholic Church I would advise you not to rely on a facebook friend for that. The Catholic faith is 2000 years old and its teachings are expansive and found in the 21 ecumenical councils, writings of the saints and papal bulls and encyclicals.

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by Scholar8200(m): 1:14pm On Mar 04, 2016

Raphael81: so mr old preacher, which church compile bible? if the catholic church is false, then what about the bible, would it affect the validity?yeye man Never mind, the Catholic church did not give us our Bible. Infact, they tried to corrupt it but thank God for the real heroes! 2 Likes

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by Raphael81(m): 1:52pm On Mar 04, 2016

Scholar8200: Never mind, the Catholic church did not give us our Bible. Infact, they tried to corrupt it but thank God for the real heroes! then mention the real heroes na biko 1 Like

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by Scholar8200(m): 2:02pm On Mar 04, 2016

Raphael81: then mention the real heroes na biko The ones who had the Bible handed down by the Christian missionaries around 120AD! The Vaudois! Now the "Waldensian," or "Vaudois" Bibles stretch from about 157 to the 1400s AD. The fact is, according to John Calvin's successor Theodore Beza, that the Vaudois received the Scriptures from missionaries of Antioch of Syria in the 120s AD and finished translating it into their Latin language by 157 AD. {NO ROMAN CATHOLIC INPUT HERE!) The evidence of history shows us that the Roman Catholic religion was relentless in its effort to destroy the Vaudois and their Bible. It took them until the 1650s to finish their hateful attacks. But the Vaudois were successful in preserving God's words to the days of the Reformation. Now we have to ask ourselves a question: Who had the most to gain by adding to or taking away from the Bible? Did the Vaudois, who were being killed for having their Bibles, have anything to gain by adding to or taking from the words of God? Compromise is what the Roman religion wanted! Had the Vaudois just followed the popes, their lives would have been much easier. But they counted the cost. This was not politics; it was their life and soul. They above all people would not want to change a single letter of the words they received from Antioch of Syria. And they paid for this with their lives. The Reformation itself owes a lot to these Christians in the French Alps. They not only preserved the Scriptures, but they show to what lengths God would go to keep his promise (Psalm 12:6-7). And that's only part of the story about the preservation of God's words. http://www.chick.com/ask/articles/1john57.asp

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by ifenes(m): 2:04pm On Mar 04, 2016

Its like saying Boko haram and Islam are different. Boko haram is only following the Koran. Roman Catholic created Christianity and all its characters.

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by ifenes(m): 2:05pm On Mar 04, 2016

Scholar8200: Never mind, the Catholic church did not give us our Bible. Infact, they tried to corrupt it but thank God for the real heroes! Are you for real

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by Scholar8200(m): 2:06pm On Mar 04, 2016

ifenes: Are you for real Sure!

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by Scholar8200(m): 2:07pm On Mar 04, 2016

ifenes: Its like saying Boko haram and Islam are different. Boko haram is only following the Koran. Roman Catholic created Christianity and all its characters. No, RCC did NOT 'create' Christianity!

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by Raphael81(m): 2:09pm On Mar 04, 2016

Scholar8200: The ones who had the Bible handed down by the Christian missionaries around 120AD! The Vaudois! Now the "Waldensian," or "Vaudois" Bibles stretch from about 157 to the 1400s AD. The fact is, according to John Calvin's successor Theodore Beza, that the Vaudois received the Scriptures from missionaries of Antioch of Syria in the 120s AD and finished translating it into their Latin language by 157 AD. {NO ROMAN CATHOLIC INPUT HERE!) The evidence of history shows us that the Roman Catholic religion was relentless in its effort to destroy the Vaudois and their Bible. It took them until the 1650s to finish their hateful attacks. But the Vaudois were successful in preserving God's words to the days of the Reformation. Now we have to ask ourselves a question: Who had the most to gain by adding to or taking away from the Bible? Did the Vaudois, who were being killed for having their Bibles, have anything to gain by adding to or taking from the words of God? Compromise is what the Roman religion wanted! Had the Vaudois just followed the popes, their lives would have been much easier. But they counted the cost. This was not politics; it was their life and soul. They above all people would not want to change a single letter of the words they received from Antioch of Syria. And they paid for this with their lives. The Reformation itself owes a lot to these Christians in the French Alps. They not only preserved the Scriptures, but they show to what lengths God would go to keep his promise (Psalm 12:6-7). And that's only part of the story about the preservation of God's words. http://www.chick.com/ask/articles/1john57.asp lo

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by ifenes(m): 2:10pm On Mar 04, 2016

Scholar8200: No, RCC did NOT 'create' Christianity! So who did? Who was responsible for replacing the Sun with Jesus ?

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by Scholar8200(m): 2:18pm On Mar 04, 2016

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Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by Scholar8200(m): 2:19pm On Mar 04, 2016

ifenes: So who did? Who was responsible for replacing the Sun with Jesus ? How do you mean?

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by ifenes(m): 2:19pm On Mar 04, 2016

Scholar8200: Nobody replaced the sun with Jesus. Just say you do not know. No need to argue.

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by Scholar8200(m): 2:20pm On Mar 04, 2016

ifenes: Just say you do not know. No need to argue. You make a claim and now want to flee?

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by ifenes(m): 2:26pm On Mar 04, 2016

Scholar8200: You make a claim and now want to flee? Flee? Do you know the bible very well?

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by Scholar8200(m): 2:26pm On Mar 04, 2016

ifenes: Flee? Do you know the bible very well? Pls answer this question: Scholar8200: How do you mean?

Re: Are Roman Catholicism And Christianity The Same Thing? by ifenes(m): 2:29pm On Mar 04, 2016

Scholar8200: Pls answer this question: What question? If you are good at reading and understand you will understand the structure on with the Vatican created the bible