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The U.K. 60s Singles & Albums Chart General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by W.B., Jun 17, 2022.

  1. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

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    And we once again come to the end of another anything-but-dull year in music, with the 4th quarter 1966 #1's from the three "others": New Musical Express, Melody Maker, and Disc and Music Echo. So as we've expounded on in the past . . . bold being a #1 on either publication that failed to top Record Retailer, bold underline when any two of these have a record at #1 but not Record Retailer, and bold italics for a #1 on all three but failing to reach the summit in Record Retailer, here we go:

    New Musical Express #1's

    29 Oct: "Reach Out I'll Be There" by the Four Tops
    19 Nov: "Good Vibrations" by The Beach Boys
    3 Dec: "Green, Green Grass Of Home" by Tom Jones


    Melody Maker #1's

    8 Oct: "I'm A Boy" by The Who (RR #2, NME #2, D&ME #2)
    22 Oct: "Reach Out I'll Be There" by the Four Tops
    12 Nov: "Good Vibrations" by The Beach Boys
    3 Dec: "Green, Green Grass Of Home" by Tom Jones


    Disc and Music Echo #1's

    22 Oct: "Reach Out I'll Be There" by the Four Tops
    19 Nov: "Good Vibrations" by The Beach Boys
    3 Dec: "Green, Green Grass Of Home" by Tom Jones
    31 Dec: "Morningtown Ride" by The Seekers (RR #2, NME #2, MM #3)

    Once the late Jim Reeves' "Distant Drums" (which was featured in our 3d quarter list) receded from the #1 spot in late October, three records then took their place atop Record Retailer thru December - as well as doing likewise in the other three.

    It should be noted that with "I'm A Boy" topping Melody Maker's chart, The Who attained what turned out to be the only #1 they had on any UK chart.
     
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  2. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

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    And we shut the door on 1966 with these Record Retailer EP charts:

    Week Ending 01 October 1966

    21 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    16 - 02 - 02 - The Walker Brothers - I NEED YOU
    12 - 03 - 03 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    12 - 04 - 04 - The Beatles - NOWHERE MAN
    28 - 05 - 05 - Joan Baez - WITH GOD ON OUR SIDE
    03 - 06 - 06 - Cilla Black - CILLA'S HITS
    03 - 07 - 07 - The Animals - ANIMAL TRACKS
    06 - 09 - 08 - Herman's Hermits - HOLD ON!
    01 - NE - 09 - The Shadows - THOSE TALENTED SHADOWS
    01 - NE - 10 - Jay And The Americans - LIVIN' WITH JAY AND THE AMERICANS


    Week Ending 08 October 1966

    17 - 02 - 01 - The Walker Brothers - I NEED YOU
    22 - 01 - 02 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    13 - 03 - 03 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    13 - 04 - 04 - The Beatles - NOWHERE MAN
    07 - 08 - 05 - Herman's Hermits - HOLD ON!
    29 - 05 - 06 - Joan Baez - WITH GOD ON OUR SIDE
    01 - NE - 07 - Jimmy Smith - FROM THE HEART (VOLUME 1)
    04 - 06 - 08 - Cilla Black - CILLA'S HITS
    02 - 09 - 09 - The Shadows - THOSE TALENTED SHADOWS
    04 - 07 - 10 - The Animals - ANIMAL TRACKS


    Week Ending 15 October 1966

    18 - 01 - 01 - The Walker Brothers - I NEED YOU
    23 - 02 - 02 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    14 - 03 - 03 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    08 - 05 - 04 - Herman's Hermits - HOLD ON!
    01 - NE - 05 - Bob Dylan - MR. TAMBOURINE MAN
    02 - 07 - 06 - Jimmy Smith - FROM THE HEART (VOLUME 1)
    01 - NE - 07 - Manfred Mann - ASWAS
    01 - NE - 08 - The Byrds - EIGHT MILES HIGH
    14 - 04 - 09 - The Beatles - NOWHERE MAN
    30 - 06 - 10 - Joan Baez - WITH GOD ON OUR SIDE


    Week Ending 22 October 1966

    19 - 01 - 01 - The Walker Brothers - I NEED YOU
    24 - 02 - 02 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    15 - 03 - 03 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    02 - 07 - 04 - Manfred Mann - ASWAS
    09 - 04 - 05 - Herman's Hermits - HOLD ON!
    02 - 05 - 06 - Bob Dylan - MR. TAMBOURINE MAN
    15 - 09 - 07 - The Beatles - NOWHERE MAN
    31 - 10 - 08 - Joan Baez - WITH GOD ON OUR SIDE
    01 - NE - 09 - Rolf Harris - ROLF HARRIS AND SEAMUS O'SEAN THE LEPRECHAUN
    01 - NE - 10 - Cher - THE HITS OF CHER


    Week Ending 29 October 1966

    25 - 02 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    20 - 01 - 02 - The Walker Brothers - I NEED YOU
    16 - 03 - 03 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    03 - 06 - 04 - Bob Dylan - MR. TAMBOURINE MAN
    03 - 04 - 05 - Manfred Mann - ASWAS
    10 - 05 - 06 - Herman's Hermits - HOLD ON!
    32 - 08 - 07 - Joan Baez - WITH GOD ON OUR SIDE
    16 - 07 - 08 - The Beatles - NOWHERE MAN
    01 - NE - 09 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    02 - 09 - 10 - Rolf Harris - ROLF HARRIS AND SEAMUS O'SEAN THE LEPRECHAUN


    Week Ending 05 November 1966

    26 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    17 - 03 - 02 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    21 - 02 - 03 - The Walker Brothers - I NEED YOU
    04 - 05 - 04 - Manfred Mann - ASWAS
    02 - 09 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    04 - 04 - 06 - Bob Dylan - MR. TAMBOURINE MAN
    33 - 07 - 07 - Joan Baez - WITH GOD ON OUR SIDE
    17 - 08 - 08 - The Beatles - NOWHERE MAN
    05 - RE - 09 - Cilla Black - CILLA'S HITS
    11 - 06 - 10 - Herman's Hermits - HOLD ON!


    Week Ending 12 November 1966

    27 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    18 - 02 - 02 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    03 - 05 - 03 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    05 - 04 - 04 - Manfred Mann - ASWAS
    22 - 03 - 05 - The Walker Brothers - I NEED YOU
    01 - NE - 06 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    05 - 06 - 07 - Bob Dylan - MR. TAMBOURINE MAN
    34 - 07 - 08 - Joan Baez - WITH GOD ON OUR SIDE
    06 - 09 - 09 - Cilla Black - CILLA'S HITS
    18 - 08 - 10 - The Beatles - NOWHERE MAN


    Week Ending 19 November 1966

    28 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    04 - 03 - 02 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    02 - 06 - 03 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    19 - 02 - 04 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    06 - 04 - 05 - Manfred Mann - ASWAS
    23 - 05 - 06 - The Walker Brothers - I NEED YOU
    07 - 09 - 07 - Cilla Black - CILLA'S HITS
    06 - 07 - 08 - Bob Dylan - MR. TAMBOURINE MAN
    35 - 08 - 09 - Joan Baez - WITH GOD ON OUR SIDE
    01 - NE - 10 - The Shadows - THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO!


    Week Ending 26 November 1966

    29 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    05 - 02 - 02 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    03 - 03 - 03 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    20 - 04 - 04 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    07 - 05 - 05 - Manfred Mann - ASWAS
    07 - 08 - 06 - Bob Dylan - MR. TAMBOURINE MAN
    01 - NE - 07 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    24 - 06 - 08 - The Walker Brothers - I NEED YOU
    02 - 10 - 09 - The Shadows - THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO!
    36 - 09 - 10 - Joan Baez - WITH GOD ON OUR SIDE


    Week Ending 03 December 1966

    30 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    06 - 02 - 02 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    02 - 07 - 03 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    21 - 04 - 04 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    04 - 03 - 05 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    03 - 09 - 06 - The Shadows - THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO!
    01 - NE - 07 - Jim Reeves - A CHRISTMAS CARD FROM JIM
    25 - 08 - 08 - The Walker Brothers - I NEED YOU
    08 - 05 - 09 - Manfred Mann - ASWAS
    08 - 06 - 10 - Bob Dylan - MR. TAMBOURINE MAN


    Week Ending 10 December 1966

    31 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    03 - 03 - 02 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    22 - 04 - 03 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    07 - 02 - 04 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    02 - 07 - 05 - Jim Reeves - A CHRISTMAS CARD FROM JIM
    05 - 05 - 06 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    04 - 06 - 07 - The Shadows - THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO!
    01 - NE - 08 - The Singing Postman - FIRST DELIVERY
    01 - NE - 09 - John Walker / Scott Walker - SOLO JOHN / SOLO SCOTT
    09 - 09 - 10 - Manfred Mann - ASWAS


    Week Ending 17 December 1966

    04 - 02 - 01 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    32 - 01 - 02 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    23 - 03 - 03 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    03 - 05 - 04 - Jim Reeves - A CHRISTMAS CARD FROM JIM
    08 - 04 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    06 - 06 - 06 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    02 - 08 - 07 - The Singing Postman - FIRST DELIVERY
    05 - 07 - 08 - The Shadows - THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO!
    02 - 09 - 09 - John Walker / Scott Walker - SOLO JOHN / SOLO SCOTT
    01 - NE - 10 - Georgie Fame - GETAWAY


    Week Ending 24 December 1966

    05 - 01 - 01 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    33 - 02 - 02 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    04 - 04 - 03 - Jim Reeves - A CHRISTMAS CARD FROM JIM
    24 - 03 - 04 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    09 - 05 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    07 - 06 - 06 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    02 - 10 - 07 - Georgie Fame - GETAWAY
    03 - 09 - 08 - John Walker / Scott Walker - SOLO JOHN / SOLO SCOTT
    03 - 07 - 09 - The Singing Postman - FIRST DELIVERY
    06 - 08 - 10 - The Shadows - THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO!


    Week Ending 31 December 1966

    05 - 03 - 01 - Jim Reeves - A CHRISTMAS CARD FROM JIM
    06 - 01 - 02 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    34 - 02 - 03 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    10 - 05 - 04 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    25 - 04 - 05 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    08 - 06 - 06 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    04 - 08 - 07 - John Walker / Scott Walker - SOLO JOHN / SOLO SCOTT
    03 - 07 - 08 - Georgie Fame - GETAWAY
    07 - 10 - 09 - The Shadows - THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO!
    04 - 09 - 10 - The Singing Postman - FIRST DELIVERY

    While the single of "God Only Knows" was the charted single, and hit, for The Beach Boys in Britain, apparently in the U.S. radio programmers were spooked by John Lennon's spring 1966 remarks to a radio interviewer that The Beatles were "bigger than Jesus" - and instead opted to play the flip, "Wouldn't It Be Nice," that became the California "surf and fun" quintet's U.S. hit prior to "Good Vibrations."

    It should be noted also that two of The Beatles' EP's that charted in '66 were titled after songs that saw no UK single release, but were issued as such in the U.S. and became big hits - "Yesterday," one of the most covered in The Beatles' canon (including a Top 10 UK version by Matt Monro), made #1 on the Billboard Hot 100, but after "We Can Work It Out" (only that side made #1; Billboard charted the flip, "Day Tripper," at #5), the next single after that, "Nowhere Man," could only reach #3 - thus putting an end to "interim" Beatles' singles in the States that were put out in-between those conformed to their UK Parlophone output.
     
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  3. Finchingfield

    Finchingfield Forum Resident

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    Not only was The Stones "19th Nervous Breakdown" #1 on NME, Melody Maker, and Disc, and as well on the BBC average, it was #1 on all 4 of these charts FOR THREE WEEKS !! And only #2 on Record Retailer, ugh. How is this possible?

    One could say this is even more of a grievance than was The Beatles "Please Please Me", which was #1 on NME, Melody Maker, and Disc for 2 weeks (with a tie at #1 in there somewhere), plus 3 weeks on the BBC average. #2 on RR, double ugh.

    And the Small Faces also hit #1 on the BBC with "Sha-La-La-La-Lee", as well as the previously mentioned Melody Maker and Disc. Only #3 on Record Retailer. Chart guru Dave Taylor claimed to have discovered an error with Sha-La, that it actually hit #1 on RR as well, but the chart positions for it and Nancy Sinatra's "Boots" got switched one week by mistake, Sha-La at 6 and Boots at 1 should have been 1 and 6.
     
  4. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

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    We have passed the point in the Disc era where RR was the only publication to chart a #1 without going there anywhere else, but there will be others in the future. But so far, these artists are known to have #1's in RR only without doing so elsewhere:
    - Eddie Cochran
    - Johnny Kidd And The Pirates
    - Floyd Cramer
    - Shirley Bassey
    - The Bachelors
    - Roger Miller
    all of whom were "Please Please Me" / "19th Nervous Breakdown" etc. in reverse.
    (Elvis' "Devil In Disguise" was the outlier in his chart trajectory, given all the others by Mr. Presley that made the top of most if not all of the charts including the Official Charts Company's "official" chart for nine years beginning in 1960.)

    But I have to ask, who at RR would've been the equivalent of the infamous Bill Wardlow of Billboard? (Given what Mr. Taylor pointed out about the Small Faces' record.) I think back to 1978 and how Wardlow robbed Gerry Rafferty's "Baker Street" out of the #1 spot on the Hot 100 so his favorite label, RSO, could have another #1 with Andy Gibb's "Shadow Dancing." Maybe Lee Hazlewood (the producer of "Boots") had some pull with whoever put together RR's chart?
     
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  5. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

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    Now for 1967, and the first quarter's worth of #1's from the three major competitors to the then-ant which got inflated retrospectively to "official" status, Record Retailer. Again, a record that was #1 on one of the "other" charts that didn't reach there in Record Retailer is in bold; one that makes the top of any two without doing so in Record Retailer is in bold underline; and any #1 on all three charts but not Record Retailer is in bold italics. So, with that in mind . . .

    New Musical Express #1's

    21 Jan: "I'm A Believer" by The Monkees
    18 Feb: "This Is My Song" by Petula Clark
    4 Mar: "Release Me" by Engelbert Humperdinck


    Melody Maker #1's

    21 Jan: "I'm A Believer" by The Monkees
    18 Feb: "This Is My Song" by Petula Clark
    25 Feb: "Release Me" by Engelbert Humperdinck
    4 Mar: "Penny Lane / Strawberry Fields Forever" by The Beatles (RR #2, NME #2, D&ME #2)


    Disc and Music Echo #1's

    21 Jan: "I'm A Believer" by The Monkees
    18 Feb: "This Is My Song" by Petula Clark
    4 Mar: "Release Me" by Engelbert Humperdinck

    Between January and March, all of three records topped Record Retailer's chart - and also got there in New Musical Express, Melody Maker (which contributed the only "extra" #1 in this quarter, which we will examine below), and Disc and Music Echo.

    With The Beatles, it was "Please Please Me" in reverse, only their latest - "Penny Lane" / "Strawberry Fields Forever" - only topped the MM chart, and for three weeks, not only cutting into half the amount of time "Release Me" was at the top there compared with all the other charts, but also ensuring that record's run would be non-consecutive - unlike with the other three including RR.
     
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  6. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

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    And now for the 1st quarter 1967 EP charts from the Official Charts Company's "official chart" for this period, Record Retailer:

    Week Ending 07 January 1967

    07 - 02 - 01 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    35 - 03 - 02 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    26 - 05 - 03 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    05 - 07 - 04 - John Walker / Scott Walker - SOLO JOHN / SOLO SCOTT
    09 - 06 - 05 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    11 - 04 - 06 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    05 - 10 - 07 - The Singing Postman - FIRST DELIVERY
    01 - NE - 08 - Ken Dodd - DIDDYNESS
    04 - 08 - 09 - Georgie Fame - GETAWAY
    01 - NE - 10 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT


    Week Ending 14 January 1967

    08 - 01 - 01 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    36 - 02 - 02 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    27 - 03 - 03 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    10 - 05 - 04 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    06 - 04 - 05 - John Walker / Scott Walker - SOLO JOHN / SOLO SCOTT
    02 - 10 - 06 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    12 - 06 - 07 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    06 - 07 - 08 - The Singing Postman - FIRST DELIVERY
    26 - RE - 09 - Val Doonican - THE GREEN SHADES OF VAL DOONICAN
    01 - NE - 10 - Andy Williams - ANDY'S NEWEST HITS


    Week Ending 21 January 1967

    37 - 02 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    09 - 01 - 02 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    28 - 03 - 03 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    11 - 04 - 04 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    03 - 06 - 05 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    13 - 07 - 06 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    07 - 05 - 07 - John Walker / Scott Walker - SOLO JOHN / SOLO SCOTT
    27 - 09 - 08 - Val Doonican - THE GREEN SHADES OF VAL DOONICAN
    07 - 08 - 09 - The Singing Postman - FIRST DELIVERY
    05 - RE - 10 - Georgie Fame - GETAWAY


    Week Ending 28 January 1967

    38 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    10 - 02 - 02 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    29 - 03 - 03 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    12 - 04 - 04 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    14 - 06 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    04 - 05 - 06 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    06 - 10 - 07 - Georgie Fame - GETAWAY
    02 - RE - 08 - Andy Williams - ANDY'S NEWEST HITS
    28 - 08 - 09 - Val Doonican - THE GREEN SHADES OF VAL DOONICAN
    08 - 09 - 10 - The Singing Postman - FIRST DELIVERY


    Week Ending 04 February 1967

    39 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    30 - 03 - 02 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    11 - 02 - 03 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    15 - 05 - 04 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    13 - 04 - 05 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    05 - 06 - 06 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    09 - 10 - 07 - The Singing Postman - FIRST DELIVERY
    07 - 07 - 08 - Georgie Fame - GETAWAY
    29 - 09 - 09 - Val Doonican - THE GREEN SHADES OF VAL DOONICAN
    01 - NE - 10 - Geno Washington - HI!


    Week Ending 11 February 1967

    40 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    31 - 02 - 02 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    16 - 04 - 03 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    12 - 03 - 04 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    06 - 06 - 05 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    14 - 05 - 06 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    30 - 09 - 07 - Val Doonican - THE GREEN SHADES OF VAL DOONICAN
    10 - 07 - 08 - The Singing Postman - FIRST DELIVERY
    03 - RE - 09 - Andy Williams - ANDY'S NEWEST HITS
    01 - NE - 10 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE


    Week Ending 18 February 1967

    41 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    17 - 03 - 02 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    07 - 05 - 03 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    32 - 02 - 04 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    13 - 04 - 05 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    31 - 07 - 06 - Val Doonican - THE GREEN SHADES OF VAL DOONICAN
    02 - 10 - 07 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    01 - NE - 08 - The Temptations - IT'S THE TEMPTATIONS
    15 - 06 - 09 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    04 - 09 - 10 - Andy Williams - ANDY'S NEWEST HITS


    Week Ending 25 February 1967

    42 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    33 - 04 - 02 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    08 - 03 - 03 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    18 - 02 - 04 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    03 - 07 - 05 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    14 - 05 - 06 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    32 - 06 - 07 - Val Doonican - THE GREEN SHADES OF VAL DOONICAN
    05 - 10 - 08 - Andy Williams - ANDY'S NEWEST HITS
    02 - 08 - 09 - The Temptations - IT'S THE TEMPTATIONS
    16 - 09 - 10 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS


    Week Ending 04 March 1967

    43 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    04 - 05 - 02 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    09 - 03 - 03 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    34 - 02 - 04 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    19 - 04 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    33 - 07 - 06 - Val Doonican - THE GREEN SHADES OF VAL DOONICAN
    15 - 06 - 07 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    06 - 08 - 08 - Andy Williams - ANDY'S NEWEST HITS
    17 - 10 - 09 - The Beach Boys - GOD ONLY KNOWS
    01 - NE - 10 - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick And Tich - LOOS OF ENGLAND


    Week Ending 11 March 1967

    05 - 02 - 01 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    01 - NE - 02 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    44 - 01 - 03 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    35 - 04 - 04 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    20 - 05 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    10 - 03 - 06 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    34 - 06 - 07 - Val Doonican - THE GREEN SHADES OF VAL DOONICAN
    07 - 08 - 08 - Andy Williams - ANDY'S NEWEST HITS
    02 - 10 - 09 - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick And Tich - LOOS OF ENGLAND
    16 - 07 - 10 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO


    Week Ending 18 March 1967

    02 - 02 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    06 - 01 - 02 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    45 - 03 - 03 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    36 - 04 - 04 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    21 - 05 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    17 - 10 - 06 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    35 - 07 - 07 - Val Doonican - THE GREEN SHADES OF VAL DOONICAN
    03 - 09 - 08 - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick And Tich - LOOS OF ENGLAND
    11 - 06 - 09 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    08 - 08 - 10 - Andy Williams - ANDY'S NEWEST HITS


    Week Ending 25 March 1967

    03 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    07 - 02 - 02 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    37 - 04 - 03 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    46 - 03 - 04 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    22 - 05 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    36- 07 - 06 - Val Doonican - THE GREEN SHADES OF VAL DOONICAN
    18 - 06 - 07 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    12 - 09 - 08 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    01 - NE - 09 - The Troggs - TROGG TOPS 1
    09 - 10 - 10 - Andy Williams - ANDY'S NEWEST HITS
     
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  7. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

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    Now on to the second quarter of 1967 and the #1's accrued in that period by New Musical Express, Melody Maker, and Disc and Music Echo, with designations for #1's of one, any two or all three "other" charts that didn't make such a grade in Record Retailer holding - for now:

    New Musical Express #1's

    15 Apr: "Somethin' Stupid" by Nancy Sinatra And Frank Sinatra
    22 Apr: "Puppet On A String" by Sandie Shaw
    20 May: "Silence Is Golden" by The Tremeloes
    10 Jun: "A Whiter Shade Of Pale" by Procol Harum


    Melody Maker #1's

    8 Apr: "Somethin' Stupid" by Nancy Sinatra And Frank Sinatra
    22 Apr: "Puppet On A String" by Sandie Shaw
    20 May: "Silence Is Golden" by The Tremeloes
    10 Jun: "A Whiter Shade Of Pale" by Procol Harum


    Disc and Music Echo #1's

    8 Apr: "This Is My Song" by Harry Secombe (RR #2, NME #2, MM #2)
    15 Apr: "Somethin' Stupid" by Nancy Sinatra And Frank Sinatra
    29 Apr: "Puppet On A String" by Sandie Shaw
    20 May: "Silence Is Golden" by The Tremeloes
    10 Jun: "A Whiter Shade Of Pale" by Procol Harum

    And so Record Retailer scored four #1's during April, May and June; ditto for New Musical Express, Melody Maker, and Disc and Music Echo (the last named of which contributed the only "unique" #1 among the other three; the significance of which will be listed in the next paragraph).

    The cover version by the onetime "Neddy Seagoon" of The Goon Show, of a song that as by Petula Clark was still in the Top 10 at the time, had the distinction of being the last record that only made #1 on the D&ME chart. Their own independently-compiled chart will come to an end midway through the next quarter, as will be detailed when we get there.
     
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  8. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

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    Next up, the April-June Record Retailer EP charts:

    Week Ending 01 April 1967

    04 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    08 - 02 - 02 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    38 - 03 - 03 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    23 - 05 - 04 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    47 - 04 - 05 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    37 - 06 - 06 - Val Doonican - THE GREEN SHADES OF VAL DOONICAN
    13 - 08 - 07 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    02 - 09 - 08 - The Troggs - TROGG TOPS 1
    10 - 10 - 09 - Andy Williams - ANDY'S NEWEST HITS
    19 - 07 - 10 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO


    Week Ending 08 April 1967

    05 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    09 - 02 - 02 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    39 - 03 - 03 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    48 - 05 - 04 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    24 - 04 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    38 - 06 - 06 - Val Doonican - THE GREEN SHADES OF VAL DOONICAN
    14 - 07 - 07 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    20 - 10 - 08 - The Who - READY STEADY WHO
    03 - 08 - 09 - The Troggs - TROGG TOPS 1
    11 - 09 - 10 - Andy Williams - ANDY'S NEWEST HITS


    Week Ending 15 April 1967

    06 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    10 - 02 - 02 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    40 - 03 - 03 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    49 - 04 - 04 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    25 - 05 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    39 - 06 - 06 - Val Doonican - THE GREEN SHADES OF VAL DOONICAN
    15 - 07 - 07 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    12 - 10 - 08 - Andy Williams - ANDY'S NEWEST HITS
    01 - NE - 09 - Marvin Gaye - ORIGINALS FROM MARVIN GAYE
    04 - 09 - 10 - The Troggs - TROGG TOPS 1


    Week Ending 22 April 1967

    07 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    11 - 02 - 02 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    02 - 09 - 03 - Marvin Gaye - ORIGINALS FROM MARVIN GAYE
    50 - 04 - 04 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    41 - 03 - 05 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    13 - 08 - 06 - Andy Williams - ANDY'S NEWEST HITS
    26 - 05 - 07 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    16 - 07 - 08 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    40 - 06 - 09 - Val Doonican - THE GREEN SHADES OF VAL DOONICAN
    01 - NE - 10 - Sandie Shaw - TELL THE BOYS


    Week Ending 29 April 1967

    08 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    12 - 02 - 02 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    51 - 04 - 03 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    03 - 03 - 04 - Marvin Gaye - ORIGINALS FROM MARVIN GAYE
    42 - 05 - 05 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    27 - 07 - 06 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    14 - 06 - 07 - Andy Williams - ANDY'S NEWEST HITS
    02 - 10 - 08 - Sandie Shaw - TELL THE BOYS
    17 - 08 - 09 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    01 - NE - 10 - Petula Clark - THIS IS MY SONG


    Week Ending 06 May 1967

    09 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    52 - 03 - 02 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    13 - 02 - 03 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    43 - 05 - 04 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    03 - 08 - 05 - Sandie Shaw - TELL THE BOYS
    02 - 10 - 06 - Petula Clark - THIS IS MY SONG
    04 - 04 - 07 - Marvin Gaye - ORIGINALS FROM MARVIN GAYE
    28 - 06 - 08 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    01 - NE - 09 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    15 - 07 - 10 - Andy Williams - ANDY'S NEWEST HITS


    Week Ending 13 May 1967

    10 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    53 - 02 - 02 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    02 - 09 - 03 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    14 - 03 - 04 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    04 - 05 - 05 - Sandie Shaw - TELL THE BOYS
    44 - 04 - 06 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    29 - 08 - 07 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    03 - 06 - 08 - Petula Clark - THIS IS MY SONG
    05 - 07 - 09 - Marvin Gaye - ORIGINALS FROM MARVIN GAYE
    18 - RE - 10 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT


    Week Ending 20 May 1967

    11 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    03 - 03 - 02 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    54 - 02 - 03 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    05 - 05 - 04 - Sandie Shaw - TELL THE BOYS
    15 - 04 - 05 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    45 - 06 - 06 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    30 - 07 - 07 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    19 - 10 - 08 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    04 - 08 - 09 - Petula Clark - THIS IS MY SONG
    06 - 09 - 10 - Marvin Gaye - ORIGINALS FROM MARVIN GAYE


    Week Ending 27 May 1967

    04 - 02 - 01 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    12 - 01 - 02 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    55 - 03 - 03 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    06 - 04 - 04 - Sandie Shaw - TELL THE BOYS
    31 - 07 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    16 - 05 - 06 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    46 - 06 - 07 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    20 - 08 - 08 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    05 - 09 - 09 - Petula Clark - THIS IS MY SONG
    07 - 10 - 10 - Marvin Gaye - ORIGINALS FROM MARVIN GAYE


    Week Ending 03 June 1967

    05 - 01 - 01 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    13 - 02 - 02 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    56 - 03 - 03 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    17 - 06 - 04 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    32 - 05 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    07 - 04 - 06 - Sandie Shaw - TELL THE BOYS
    47 - 07 - 07 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    21 - 08 - 08 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    06 - 09 - 09 - Petula Clark - THIS IS MY SONG
    08 - 10 - 10 - Marvin Gaye - ORIGINALS FROM MARVIN GAYE


    Week Ending 10 June 1967

    06 - 01 - 01 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    14 - 02 - 02 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    57 - 03 - 03 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    18 - 04 - 04 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    33 - 05 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    01 - NE - 06 - Spurs F.C. - THE SPURS GO MARCHING ON
    48 - 07 - 07 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    08 - 06 - 08 - Sandie Shaw - TELL THE BOYS
    22 - 08 - 09 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    01 - NE - 10 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME


    Week Ending 17 June 1967

    15 - 02 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    07 - 01 - 02 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    58 - 03 - 03 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    19 - 04 - 04 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    34 - 05 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    23 - 09 - 06 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    02 - 10 - 07 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    49 - 07 - 08 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    02 - 06 - 09 - Spurs F.C. - THE SPURS GO MARCHING ON
    09 - 08 - 10 - Sandie Shaw - TELL THE BOYS


    Week Ending 24 June 1967

    16 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    08 - 02 - 02 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    59 - 03 - 03 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    03 - 07 - 04 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    35 - 05 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    20 - 04 - 06 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    24 - 06 - 07 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    50 - 08 - 08 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    10 - 10 - 09 - Sandie Shaw - TELL THE BOYS
    03 - 09 - 10 - Spurs F.C. - THE SPURS GO MARCHING ON
     
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  9. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

    Location:
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    We go now to the first of two major turning points in UK chart history in this year with this look at the third quarter of 1967 (a.k.a. the "Summer of Love"). At the outset, it's still a look at the #1's of New Musical Express, Melody Maker, and Disc and Music Echo. However, 19 August was the last stand-alone chart ever compiled by D&ME; effective with the 26 August issue they began carrying MM's chart up to the publication's own demise in August 1975 (ironically, afterwards it would be acquired by, and subsumed into, Record Mirror which was the first to abandon its own chart back in March 1962, and reprint first RR's and then, after 1969, the "official" chart). For the most part, from then until June 1988 - except when it became three charts again for a brief period between May 1968 and February 1971 - the usual rule will be bold for a #1 on either chart that failed to top (as before February 1969) Record Retailer, and bold italics for when a record tops both charts without doing so there (or, after February 1969, "officially"). So now, without further adieu . . .

    New Musical Express #1's

    15 Jul: "All You Need Is Love" by The Beatles
    12 Aug: "San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Some Flowers In Your Hair)" by Scott McKenzie
    9 Sep: "The Last Waltz" by Engelbert Humperdinck


    Melody Maker #1's

    15 Jul: "Alternate Title" by The Monkees (RR #2, NME #2, D&ME #2 - the last "other" #1 from during the existence of D&ME's own chart)
    22 Jul: "All You Need Is Love" by The Beatles
    12 Aug: "San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Some Flowers In Your Hair)" by Scott McKenzie
    2 Sep: "The Last Waltz" by Engelbert Humperdinck


    Disc and Music Echo #1's (last own chart 19 August)

    22 Jul: "All You Need Is Love" by The Beatles
    5 Aug: "San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Some Flowers In Your Hair)" by Scott McKenzie (the last #1 of their own chart; it was still #1 26 August when they began reprinting MM's chart)

    Up to 19 August, two #1's charted in Record Retailer - and New Musical Express, Melody Maker, and Disc and Music Echo all agreed they were #1; in this period was the last "unique" #1 (noted below) logged in during the existence of the last-named publication's own unique chart. Following the demise of D&ME's own chart, one more single topped not only RR but also the two others left standing, NME and MM.

    "Alternate Title," the only other Monkees' single to top any UK chart (in this case, only MM), truly was an alternate title; the original, "Randy Scouse Git" (from their LP Headquarters) was deemed by UK RCA to be "rude to British audiences" and changed accordingly. It was never issued as a single by their U.S. label, Colgems (during that period, the single that charted in the States from Micky, Davy, Mike and Peter was "Pleasant Valley Sunday" - which would later peak at #11 in RR).
     
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  10. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

    Location:
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    And the last full quarter of Record Retailer's EP chart, with all the weeks in question accounted for, for the last time:

    Week Ending 01 July 1967

    17 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    09 - 02 - 02 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    60 - 03 - 03 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    04 - 04 - 04 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    25 - 07 - 05 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    21 - 06 - 06 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    36 - 05 - 07 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    01 - NE - 08 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    11 - 09 - 09 - Sandie Shaw - TELL THE BOYS
    51 - 08 - 10 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS


    Week Ending 08 July 1967

    18 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    10 - 02 - 02 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    61 - 03 - 03 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    05 - 04 - 04 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    26 - 05 - 05 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    22 - 06 - 06 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    37 - 07 - 07 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    02 - 08 - 08 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    12 - 09 - 09 - Sandie Shaw - TELL THE BOYS
    52 - 10 - 10 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS


    Week Ending 15 July 1967

    19 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    11 - 02 - 02 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    06 - 04 - 03 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    03 - 08 - 04 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    27 - 05 - 05 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    62 - 03 - 06 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    38 - 07 - 07 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    13 - 09 - 08 - Sandie Shaw - TELL THE BOYS
    23 - 06 - 09 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    53 - 10 - 10 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS


    Week Ending 22 July 1967

    04 - 04 - 01 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    07 - 03 - 02 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    20 - 01 - 03 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    12 - 02 - 04 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    63 - 06 - 05 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    28 - 05 - 06 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    39 - 07 - 07 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    54 - 10 - 08 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    02 - RE - 09 - Geno Washington - HI!
    24 - 09 - 10 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE


    Week Ending 29 July 1967

    05 - 01 - 01 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    64 - 05 - 02 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    21 - 03 - 03 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    08 - 02 - 04 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    13 - 04 - 05 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    29 - 06 - 06 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    40 - 07 - 07 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    55 - 08 - 08 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    14 - RE - 09 - Sandie Shaw - TELL THE BOYS
    25 - 10 - 10 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE


    Week Ending 05 August 1967

    06 - 01 - 01 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    65 - 02 - 02 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    14 - 05 - 03 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    30 - 06 - 04 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    22 - 03 - 05 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    09 - 04 - 06 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    03 - RE - 07 - Geno Washington - HI!
    41 - 07 - 08 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    56 - 08 - 09 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    26 - 10 - 10 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE


    Week Ending 12 August 1967

    66 - 02 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    23 - 05 - 02 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    07 - 01 - 03 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    10 - 06 - 04 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    57 - 09 - 05 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    42 - 08 - 06 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    15 - 03 - 07 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    31 - 04 - 08 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    27 - 10 - 09 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    01 - NE - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 19 August 1967

    67 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    11 - 04 - 02 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    16 - 07 - 03 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    08 - 03 - 04 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    24 - 02 - 05 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    58 - 05 - 06 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    43 - 06 - 07 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    32 - 08 - 08 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    02 - 10 - 09 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU
    28 - 09 - 10 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE


    Week Ending 26 August 1967

    68 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    25 - 05 - 02 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    09 - 04 - 03 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    44 - 07 - 04 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    59 - 06 - 05 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    12 - 02 - 06 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    33 - 08 - 07 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    17 - 03 - 08 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    29 - 10 - 09 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    03 - 09 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 02 September 1967

    69 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    10 - 03 - 02 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    26 - 02 - 03 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    18 - 08 - 04 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    45 - 04 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    34 - 07 - 06 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    13 - 06 - 07 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    30 - 09 - 08 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    60 - 05 - 09 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    04 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 09 September 1967

    70 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    27 - 03 - 02 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    19 - 04 - 03 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    14 - 07 - 04 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    11 - 02 - 05 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    46 - 05 - 06 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    35 - 06 - 07 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    31 - 08 - 08 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    61 - 09 - 09 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    05 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 16 September 1967

    71 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    28 - 02 - 02 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    20 - 03 - 03 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    36 - 07 - 04 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    12 - 05 - 05 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    62 - 09 - 06 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    47 - 06 - 07 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    15 - 04 - 08 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    32 - 08 - 09 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    06 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 23 September 1967

    29 - 02 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    72 - 01 - 02 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    21 - 03 - 03 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    37 - 04 - 04 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    48 - 07 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    13 - 05 - 06 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    16 - 08 - 07 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    33 - 09 - 08 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    63 - 06 - 09 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    07 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 30 September 1967

    73 - 02 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    30 - 01 - 02 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    38 - 04 - 03 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    22 - 03 - 04 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    49 - 05 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    14 - 06 - 06 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    64 - 09 - 07 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    17 - 07 - 08 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    34 - 08 - 09 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    08 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU
     
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  11. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

    Location:
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    And now, with it just being New Musical Express and Melody Maker vs. Record Retailer, here are the 4th quarter #1's from the first two, with any record making #1 on either one but not the last-named in bold and those that topped both without going through the eye of the RR needle in bold italics:

    New Musical Express #1's

    21 Oct: "Massachusetts" by The Bee Gees
    11 Nov: "Baby, Now That I've Found You" by The Foundations
    2 Dec: "Let The Heartaches Begin" by Long John Baldry
    9 Dec: "Hello Goodbye" by The Beatles


    Melody Maker #1's

    21 Oct: "Massachusetts" by The Bee Gees
    11 Nov: "Baby, Now That I've Found You" by The Foundations
    25 Nov: "Let The Heartaches Begin" by Long John Baldry
    9 Dec: "Hello Goodbye" by The Beatles

    During the months of October, November and December, Record Retailer scored a total of four Number Ones. Its two remaining competitors concurred and had all four finish in the same spot.
     
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    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

    Location:
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    And now for the last weeks of the Record Retailer EP chart that, along with its Top 50 singles chart, dated back to 12 March 1960. RR's last-published such chart was on 2 December; Record Mirror, which reprinted RR's charts, carried on with the EP's until 16 December, which is the point at which this saga finally concludes. (Similar to RM continuing to print the EP as a Top 20 chart for 2 weeks after RR reduced it to a Top 10 in April 1966.) And so, for the last time . . .

    Week Ending 07 October 1967

    31 - 02 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    74 - 01 - 02 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    39 - 03 - 03 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    23 - 04 - 04 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    50 - 05 - 05 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    15 - 06 - 06 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    65 - 07 - 07 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    35 - 09 - 08 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    18 - 08 - 09 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    09 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 14 October 1967

    75 - 02 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    32 - 01 - 02 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    51 - 05 - 03 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    24 - 04 - 04 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    16 - 06 - 05 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    66 - 07 - 06 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    40 - 03 - 07 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    36 - 08 - 08 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    19 - 09 - 09 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    10 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 21 October 1967

    33 - 02 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    76 - 01 - 02 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    52 - 03 - 03 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    25 - 04 - 04 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    37 - 08 - 05 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    41 - 07 - 06 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    67 - 06 - 07 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    17 - 05 - 08 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    20 - 09 - 09 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    11 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 28 October 1967

    34 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    53 - 03 - 02 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    77 - 02 - 03 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    26 - 04 - 04 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    68 - 07 - 05 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    42 - 06 - 06 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    38 - 05 - 07 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    18 - 08 - 08 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    21 - 09 - 09 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    12 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 04 November 1967

    35 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    43 - 06 - 02 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    27 - 04 - 03 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    78 - 03 - 04 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    69 - 05 - 05 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    39 - 07 - 06 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    19 - 08 - 07 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    54 - 02 - 08 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    22 - 09 - 09 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    13 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 11 November 1967

    36 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    70 - 05 - 02 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    79 - 04 - 03 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    55 - 08 - 04 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    44 - 02 - 05 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    40 - 06 - 06 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    28 - 03 - 07 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    20 - 07 - 08 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    23 - 09 - 09 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    14 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 18 November 1967

    37 - 01 - 01 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    80 - 03 - 02 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    56 - 04 - 03 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    45 - 05 - 04 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    29 - 07 - 05 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    71 - 02 - 06 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    21 - 08 - 07 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    41 - 06 - 08 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    24 - 09 - 09 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    15 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 25 November 1967

    81 - 02 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    38 - 01 - 02 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    46 - 04 - 03 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    57 - 03 - 04 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    22 - 07 - 05 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    72 - 06 - 06 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    30 - 05 - 07 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    25 - 09 - 08 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    42 - 08 - 09 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    16 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 02 December 1967

    82 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    39 - 02 - 02 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    58 - 04 - 03 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    47 - 03 - 04 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    73 - 06 - 05 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    43 - 09 - 06 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    31 - 07 - 07 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    23 - 05 - 08 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    26 - 08 - 09 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    17 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 09 December 1967

    83 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    40 - 02 - 02 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    59 - 03 - 03 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    48 - 04 - 04 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    44 - 06 - 05 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    74 - 05 - 06 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    32 - 07 - 07 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    24 - 08 - 08 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    27 - 09 - 09 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    18 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU


    Week Ending 16 December 1967 - LAST EP CHART -

    84 - 01 - 01 - The Beach Boys - HITS
    41 - 02 - 02 - Four Tops - FOUR TOP HITS
    60 - 03 - 03 - Four Tops - THE FOUR TOPS
    49 - 04 - 04 - Tony Bennett - THE BEST OF BENNETT
    45 - 05 - 05 - The Seekers - MORNINGTOWN RIDE
    75 - 06 - 06 - The Seekers - HITS FROM THE SEEKERS
    33 - 07 - 07 - Paul Jones - PRIVILEGE
    25 - 08 - 08 - Elvis Presley - EASY COME, EASY GO
    28 - 09 - 09 - Georgie Fame - GEORGIE FAME
    19 - 10 - 10 - Mireille Mathieu - MIREILLE MATHIEU

    A little comment: Here is what symbolised the end of the Extended Play format (which first came forth in the U.S. in the fall of 1952) as a viable one worthy of its own chart. The last new entry had been way back on 12 August, with Mireille Mathieu's self-titled EP; in those last weeks it was almost like rearranging the deck chairs of the Titanic week after week after week. The second-newest, Elvis' Easy Come, Easy Go, had first appeared on the chart on 1 July. Hits by The Beach Boys was the proverbial "old man" in this lineup, with Hits From The Seekers being the second-oldest in terms of weeks on chart logged.

    Notice which made no effort to break on through to this chart in its final weeks: The Beatles' two-record double-EP Magical Mystery Tour. In the U.S., where EP's were dead to the water - and the group's U.S. label, Capitol, knew this - it was ish'd as a regular LP, with the tracks from this same-titled de facto home movie on Side 1, and five sides from their 1967 singles (beginning with "Hello Goodbye") on Side 2.

    So from here on out, it'll only be the #1's on those singles charts that competed against what, since 2001-02, the Official (only in their feverish dreams) Charts Company has insisted is "official" for between 1960 and 1969.
     
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  13. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

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    We now go to 1968. In this, at first, streamlined field, it is now the #1's of New Musical Express and Melody Maker only, with bold signifying a record that reached the top of either chart but not Record Retailer, and bold italics one that topped both but not Record Retailer. So, with that in mind, the first quarter:

    New Musical Express #1's

    2o Jan: "The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde" by Georgie Fame
    27 Jan: "Everlasting Love" by The Love Affair
    17 Feb: "The Mighty Quinn (Quinn The Eskimo)" by Manfred Mann
    2 Mar: "Cinderella Rockafella" by Esther And Abi Ofarim
    30 Mar: "Lady Madonna" by The Beatles (MM #2)


    Melody Maker #1's

    13 Jan: Magical Mystery Tour (EP) by The Beatles (RR #2, NME #2)
    2o Jan: "The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde" by Georgie Fame
    27 Jan: "Everlasting Love" by The Love Affair
    17 Feb: "The Mighty Quinn (Quinn The Eskimo)" by Manfred Mann
    2 Mar: "Cinderella Rockafella" by Esther And Abi Ofarim
    30 Mar: "Delilah" by Tom Jones (RR #2, NME #2)

    Between January and March, six Number Ones came and went in Record Retailer. Five of them topped the New Musical Express chart, and only four reached the summit in Melody Maker, which contributed this period's "other" #1's.

    For the first time since 1965, we have a #1 from RR that failed to also go there on any of the other charts: "The Legend Of Xanadu" by Dave Dee. Dozy, Beaky, Mick And Tich, relegated to #2 in both NME and MM. This was the eighth record (and ninth song) to so have this distinction in this decade. And speaking of the latter publication, The Beatles had highs and lows within this period: a second MM-only #1 (the Magical Mystery Tour EP, this after "Penny Lane" / "Strawberry Fields Forever" the prior year), then the indignity of being blocked from the top spot there by, of all singles, Tom Jones' melodramatic "Delilah" (which sat at the summit for all of two weeks, just as The Beatles' latest sat atop RR's and NME's charts).

    In the next quarter, we will see resumption of three-way competition to RR, albeit from a new, out-of-left-field source.
     
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  14. W.B.

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    And now we go to the second quarter of 1968. For all of the first month in this quarter and most of the second it's still New Musical Express and Melody Maker. However, on 25 May, new competition comes in the form of a Top 30 chart started up by a then year-old publication, Top Pops. Its chart is, if anything, even more narrowly sampled than even Record Retailer, with only 12 shops sampled - all from within the W.H. Smith & Son chain. (In 1970, after it was retooled as Music Now, the sample pool was extended to 30 Smith's stores.) At the start of its chart, TP was a biweekly, and its first two charts were from that status - 25 May and 8 June. Incredibly, the week after that last date - 15 June - was their first issue as a weekly. For a variety of reasons this "new kid on the block" was totally ignored by the BBC when they compiled their "averaged" chart for use on their radio countdowns and weekly Top Of The Pops series - just as Record Retailer had been up until Record Mirror began carrying their little chart back in '62. The weekly singles and albums charts (those which have been able to be dredged up) can be found here:
    Top Pops and Music Now Weekly Charts - UKMIX Forums

    But just as Guinness' chart books elevated Record Retailer to an "important chart" status because their 1960-69 charts were cited albeit solely "for the purpose of [these books]," followed by the infamous OCC decision of 2001-02 to retroactively and retrospectively enshrine them as the "official" chart for those nine years, so did the Internet (via UKMix forums and, most important, Wikipedia), serve to elevate Top Pops' chart to a status equal to all those charts that existed in the UK over the years. It is especially odd Wikipedia has listed that this publication's #1's over its short history, as up until 2020 the total #1 lists of two key publications whose charts were cited by the BBC for their "averaged chart" - Melody Maker and Disc (and Music Echo) - were not on Wikipedia.

    So, starting in late May / early June, once again the rules as in place up until the 1967 demise of D&ME's chart once again hold: bold if a record makes #1 on one of the charts without doing so in Record Retailer, bold underline for those which topped any two charts but not Record Retailer; and bold italics for a #1 from all three that did not make the summit of Record Retailer.

    New Musical Express #1's

    13 Apr: "Congratulations" by Cliff Richard (MM #2)
    20 Apr: "What A Wonderful World" by Louis Armstrong (B side "Cabaret" - NME did not chart, MM did not chart)
    18 May: "Young Girl" by The Union Gap Featuring Gary Puckett
    22 Jun: "Jumpin' Jack Flash" by The Rolling Stones


    Melody Maker #1's

    13 Apr: "What A Wonderful World" by Louis Armstrong
    18 May: "Young Girl" by The Union Gap Featuring Gary Puckett
    15 Jun: "Jumpin' Jack Flash" by The Rolling Stones


    Top Pops #1's (first chart 25 May)

    25 May: "Young Girl" by The Union Gap Featuring Gary Puckett
    22 Jun: "Jumpin' Jack Flash" by The Rolling Stones

    Up to the start-up of Top Pops' chart, three records made the top of the Record Retailer chart, with all three doing so in New Musical Express and two topping Melody Maker. (Only in RR did "Satchmo" have a double-sided hit, as neither NME nor MM charted "Cabaret.") "Young Girl" was in its second week at #1 in NME and MM - and had just begun its run at the top of the RR chart - when it became the first #1 of TP's chart. After this upstart's start-up, RR subsequently scored another #1 single that all its three competitors agreed was likewise #1.

    And thus is our look at "the scene" from April-June.
     
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  15. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

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    We turn now to the 3d quarter of 1968, the first full one of newcomer Top Pops whose #1's, along with those of old hands New Musical Express and Melody Maker. As from 1962 to 1967 between the demise of Record Mirror's chart and that of Disc (and Music Echo), the protocols of #1's for either, any two, or all three that didn't top RR are once again in place. (No spoilers, though in this case it is RR that would provide same.)

    New Musical Express #1's

    6 Jul: "Baby Come Back" by The Equals
    27 Jul: "Mony Mony" by Tommy James And The Shondells
    24 Aug: "Help Yourself" by Tom Jones (RR #5, MM #3, TP #2)
    7 Sep: "I've Gotta Get A Message To You" by The Bee Gees (MM #2)
    14 Sep: "Hey Jude" by The Beatles


    Melody Maker #1's

    6 Jul: "Baby Come Back" by The Equals
    27 Jul: "Mony Mony" by Tommy James And The Shondells
    31 Aug: "This Guy's In Love With You" by Herb Alpert (RR #3, NME #3, TP #2)
    7 Sep: "Hey Jude" by The Beatles


    Top Pops #1's

    13 Jul: "Baby Come Back" by The Equals
    27 Jul: "Mony Mony" by Tommy James And The Shondells
    10 Aug: "Fire" by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown (NME #2, MM #2)
    31 Aug: "I've Gotta Get A Message To You" by The Bee Gees
    7 Sep: "Hey Jude" by The Beatles


    In this busy period, eight different records took turns reaching #1 in Record Retailer between July and September; the last of which wouldn't reach the top of the three other charts until the next quarter. Of those that did reach the top in these three months, five of them also got there in Top Pops', and from there it was one less: four in New Musical Express, three in Melody Maker. NME and MM each contributed a "unique" #1 in this quarter, with special mention to Tom Jones' "Help Yourself," as it was probably one of the first times that an artist had back-to-back records where each made #1 on a different "other" chart without doing so in RR (and thus, "officially") - this, nearly five months after his "Delilah" topped MM's. Even more interesting, "Help Yourself" sat atop NME's chart for two weeks - same as "Delilah" in MM. Those two were the last where Mr. Jones would make #1 on any UK chart to date. (The next time this happened was when one ex-Beatle and his band of the time scored a different #1 on each "other" chart with back-to-back singles eight years later.)

    And for this quarter, we have two #1's from RR which are therefore deemed "official," that failed to reach the top of any of the other charts: "I Pretend" by Des O'Connor, which peaked at #2 in MM, but could get no higher than #3 in both NME and TP; and "Do It Again" by The Beach Boys, which got as high as #2 in NME and MM but stalled at #3 in TP - the last two in the nearly nine years between the start of RR's chart and the establishment of the "official" chart (10 records and 11 songs, in total). And here is where the inclusion of TP's charts makes a big difference, as "Fire" would also have been on the list of "official only" #1's (11th record, 12th song) as "OCC's" it ("OC - Sees it," get it?), but for the fact that it also reached the summit in TP.

    And nowhere in the 1960-69 history of British charts was there any greater example of how out-of-step RR was with its competitors (again, per the comments in various places by @Finchingfield) than The Beatles' first on their new Apple label, "Hey Jude." It debuted all the way at #1 on the MM and TP charts, and #3 in NME - but RR launched its chart run at the lowly position of #21. MM's and TP's duration of "Hey Jude" at the top was also the longest - four weeks apiece, with NME at 3 weeks and RR at a mere two. Disregarding TP for a moment, the combined weeks of three of the publications would have equalled the number of weeks - 9 - that "Hey Jude" sat atop the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 (and in the process, be deemed the #1 song of 1968 in the States).
     
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  16. W.B.

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    Now we get to the last quarter of 1968, and the #1's that passed through New Musical Express, Melody Maker and Top Pops. This was the last full quarter for the stand-alone chart of Record Retailer before a momentous change in the chart landscape that would transpire within the second month of the next year, but for now the rules still hold on any record that topped one, any two or all three charts without doing so in Record Retailer . . .

    New Musical Express #1's

    5 Oct: "Those Were The Days" by Mary Hopkin
    9 Nov: "With A Little Help From My Friends" by Joe Cocker
    16 Nov: "The Good, The Bad And The Ugly" by Hugo Montenegro, His Orchestra And Chorus
    23 Nov: "Eloise" by Barry Ryan (RR #2, TP #2)
    7 Dec: "Lily The Pink" by The Scaffold


    Melody Maker #1's

    5 Oct: "Those Were The Days" by Mary Hopkin
    9 Nov: "With A Little Help From My Friends" by Joe Cocker
    16 Nov: "Eloise" by Barry Ryan
    23 Nov: "The Good, The Bad And The Ugly" by Hugo Montenegro, His Orchestra And Chorus
    14 Dec: "Lily The Pink" by The Scaffold


    Top Pops #1's

    5 Oct: "Those Were The Days" by Mary Hopkin
    9 Nov: "With A Little Help From My Friends" by Joe Cocker
    23 Nov: "The Good, The Bad And The Ugly" by Hugo Montenegro, His Orchestra And Chorus
    7 Dec: "Lily The Pink" by The Scaffold

    "Those Were The Days" first hit #1 on Record Retailer's chart on 28 September, but it was not included in the 3Q list as it did not reach the top of the other three publications until the start of this quarter, as well as remaining at the top all through October and at the outset of November. After this, from then until the end of December three more records topped RR, and all three also reached the summit of New Musical Express, Melody Maker and Top Pops.

    "Eloise" is yet another example of the difference the Top Pops chart makes. If only RR, NME and MM were figured in, this record would have been indicated in bold italics; the fact that it also missed the top of TP's chart meant it would be shown in bold underline.

    Next up: 1969 - the year that changed everything for British charts.
     
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    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

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    On "Hey Jude," there was one other tidbit I forgot to mention: It wasn't just with its competitors that Record Retailer was in disagreement with over which chart position it debuted. Even its U.S. parent Billboard, where on its Hot 100 the record debuted at #10. (Its competitors' debut positions and weeks at #1 were as follows: Cash Box #38, 7 weeks at #1; Record World debuted at #70 as double-sided with flip "Revolution," but both were separated by the time "Hey Jude" got to #1, with "Revolution" at #2 and thereafter going down; the former spent 4 weeks at #1 - same amount as UK Melody Maker and Top Pops; both they and CB also made room for Ms. Hopkin's "Those Were The Days" to be #1, unlike on BB where it was kept at #2 by The Beatles' opus.)
     
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    And now for the 1st quarter of 1969, and the #1's of New Musical Express, Melody Maker and Top Pops.

    8 February marked an important turning point in the history of British music charts: the last independently-compiled chart of Record Retailer, ending a run dating back to 12 March 1960 when it was merely a subscription-only periodical of, by and for independent record shops; over the years it had evolved into something resembling an entire industry trade publication, and was even acquired back in 1966 by Billboard. But . . .

    . . . in wild contrast to the rampant retrospective revisionism since 2001-02, RR was just one of several publications with charts around back then in the UK; true, Record Mirror's own chart ended in 1962, and Disc (and Music Echo)'s in 1967, but there was still "the competition" of NME, MM, and now TP. All charts had their sets of #1's, either one publication, or any two or three, or all of the above would have a record at #1 for varying periods of time. This, B.T.W., was RR's status when they and the BBC joined together to contract with a firm that'd been around a few years at that point, the British Market Research Bureau (BMRB), to compile what would come to be called an "official" national singles and albums chart that would be printed in RR (and reprinted in RM) and used by "the Beeb" for their chart countdowns and Top Of The Pops TV series. (This new "official" chart also brought to an end the BBC's "averaged" chart which had lasted about a decade.) Ideally, the amount of stores sampled would be 300 - 10 times the pool of RR when they first started out, a shade under four times the 85 stores RR sampled over the last five years (but still much, much less than those NME and MM sampled), but the early "official" charts were lucky to get up to 60 for one chart, and ties galore were the rule. The first such chart would be published 15 February. The veneration of RR by use in Guinness chart books, coupled with its elevation to "official" status for 1960-69 by the Official (so they keep saying they are) Charts Company - all that came much later, along with 41 #1's from other publications (dating back to Dean Martin's RM-only #1 from 1955, "The Naughty Lady Of Shady Lane," and the last being Barry Ryan's recent NME and MM topper "Eloise") that were suddenly stripped of that status by that fateful and deservedly controversial decision by OCC.

    So there is therefore a delineating line. The old rules hold for up to 8 February, but after 15 February, any #1 from one of the "other" publications that failed to reach the top "officially" is what's in bold, a #1 from any two that didn't go all the way "officially" is bold underline, and one where all three agree is #1 but not "officially" is in bold italics. Here we go now:

    New Musical Express #1's

    11 Jan: "Ob-La-Di Ob-La Da" by The Marmalade
    25 Jan: "Albatross" by Fleetwood Mac
    15 Feb: "Blackberry Way" by The Move (last #1 of RR's own chart; TP #2)
    22 Feb: "(If Paradise Is) Half As Nice" by Amen Corner (first "Official" #1)
    1 Mar: "Where Do You Go To (My Lovely)" by Peter Sarstedt
    29 Mar: "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" by Marvin Gaye


    Melody Maker #1's

    11 Jan: "Ob-La-Di Ob-La Da" by The Marmalade
    1 Feb: "Albatross" by Fleetwood Mac
    15 Feb: "Blackberry Way" by The Move
    22 Feb: "(If Paradise Is) Half As Nice" by Amen Corner
    8 Mar: "Where Do You Go To (My Lovely)" by Peter Sarstedt
    5 Apr: "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" by Marvin Gaye


    Top Pops #1's

    11 Jan: "Ob-La-Di Ob-La Da" by The Marmalade
    25 Jan: "Albatross" by Fleetwood Mac
    22 Feb: "(If Paradise Is) Half As Nice" by Amen Corner
    8 Mar: "Where Do You Go To (My Lovely)" by Peter Sarstedt
    22 Mar: "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" by Marvin Gaye

    In the last six weeks of Record Retailer's stand-alone chart, three records took turns at #1; whilst all three topped New Musical Express and Melody Maker, only two reached the summit of Top Pops (which bypassed completely the last of that lot). In the first seven weeks of what would come to be called the "Official" chart, another three would peak at #1 - and all three competitors had these likewise.
     
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    chrisblower Norfolk n'good

    Ewe Kay wtf ?
     
  20. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

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    We now turn to the 2d quarter of 1969, and the #1's accrued in that time period by New Musical Express, Melody Maker and Top Pops. As usual in this period, bold signifies when a record makes #1 on one of these charts but not that which was now "compiled for Record Retailer, Billboard and BBC from a panel of 300 record shops by British Market Research Bureau"; bold underline is when any two has a record at #1 but not the said chart of which the above quote holds; and bold italics indicates a #1 on all three but failed to make the top of what would come to be called the "Official" chart.

    New Musical Express #1's

    19 Apr: "Israelites" by Desmond Dekker And The Aces
    3 May: "Get Back" by The Beatles With Billy Preston
    7 Jun: "Dizzy" by Tommy Roe
    21 Jun: "The Ballad Of John And Yoko" by The Beatles


    Melody Maker #1's

    26 Apr: "Israelites" by Desmond Dekker And The Aces
    3 May: "Get Back" by The Beatles With Billy Preston
    7 Jun: "Dizzy" by Tommy Roe
    21 Jun: "The Ballad Of John And Yoko" by The Beatles


    Top Pops #1's

    19 Apr: "Israelites" by Desmond Dekker And The Aces
    3 May: "Get Back" by The Beatles With Billy Preston
    24 May: "My Sentimental Friend" by Herman's Hermits (BMRB #2, NME #3, MM #2)
    7 Jun: "Dizzy" by Tommy Roe
    21 Jun: "The Ballad Of John And Yoko" by The Beatles

    For the period April-June 1969, the "Official" chart in its first full quarter netted a total of four new #1's - every one of which also made the three other publications' summit.

    Two things stand out:
    a) Only over two months old, and the "Official" chart has already achieved something - for both the first and last time - that Record Retailer could never do: debut a Beatles' single at #1. (This was, however, the reverse of such early records as "I Want To Hold Your Hand" and "Can't Buy Me Love," as "Get Back" which saw them share credit with American keyboardist Billy Preston got progressively lower with each "other" chart in terms of its debut position: MM #2, NME #3, and TP #7.) It was also in this quarter that the Fab Four had what turned out to be their last UK #1 on any chart with "The Ballad Of John And Yoko."
    b) This quarter saw the first of a total of six #1's unique to Top Pops, that is they did not reach the summit on any of the other three charts including the "Official" one. This would be the only other Hermits' hit (after "I'm Into Something Good") to top any UK chart - and their last.
     
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    One other tidbit for those who may not know: although the goal of the BMRB chart was to sample 300 record shops for actual record sales starting in Feb 1969, according to Alan Smith's research they came nowhere close to this number for YEARS !! BMRB did publish and send out periodic stat sheets of chart data, and how many actual shops got their returns in on time per week. For example, we have the data from May 8, 1976 as published in the book "The Pop Industry Inside Out" by Michael Cable, and the data for that week shows only 158 record shop sales tallies were received in time to calculate the chart. Another 112 tallies were received but alas too late. It is also stated that the effective sample size was 299 shops. Now, was that the total number of shops who were asked to turn in a tally? Or, was the data from the 158 shops massaged to account for missing shops in certain geographic areas? This massaging was eventually done, but I don't know at what point in time. But see what we have here, or rather do not have: 7 years after the beginning of the new 'official' actual sales based BMRB chart, and they only have 158 of 299 reporting record shops getting their data in on time !!

    So, when BMRB started out in Feb 1969, things were pretty disorganized, as stated above (per Alan Smith) they probably were only receiving data from 60 shops, and had a lot of tied positions. How are ties possible when you are recording actual sales ?? So in the early days, the BMRB chart had even fewer samples than Record Retailer had at the end of their run, 75-85 per week. Very ironic that... Meanwhile, NME and Melody Maker were still choogling along with around 200 shops plus or minus in Feb 1969, before they began to decrease their sample size over the next 2 years or so.

    Other BMRB data stat sheets have surfaced, I think I've seen 2 more on UKMix, and they too were from the 1970s I believe, and were low samples, less than 200 shops if my memory is correct. These BMRB sheets are not widely circulated, though they are supposedly being stored somewhere in a secure facility or library, not open to the public. Although rumors are going around that someone might be on the verge of procuring and releasing them. That would be good !!
     
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    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

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    One of the supremest ironies, indeed.

    But would I be correct in my assessment that the elevation of Top Pops / Music Now to status equal to the others was largely Internet-driven over the last two decades, given that it was basically a publication sold at Smith's stores as were the records which sales from which stores were sampled therein? Several of the findings unearthed so far are indeed game-changers.
     
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    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

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    Now on to the third quarter of 1969, and the songs that made #1 over in New Musical Express, Melody Maker and Top Pops - the last named of which, on 27 September, would change its name to Top Pops & Music Now. The protocols as explained for those that topped one, any two or all three of these charts without doing so over on the chart compiled, however spottily, by the BMRB, are still in place.

    New Musical Express #1's

    5 Jul: "Something In The Air" by Thunderclap Newman
    19 Jul: "In The Ghetto" by Elvis Presley (BMRB #2)
    26 Jul: "Honky Tonk Women" by The Rolling Stones
    30 Aug: "In The Year 2525 (Exordium And Terminus)" by Zager And Evans
    20 Sep: "Bad Moon Rising" by Creedence Clearwater Revival (TP #2)


    Melody Maker #1's

    12 Jul: "Something In The Air" by Thunderclap Newman
    19 Jul: "In The Ghetto" by Elvis Presley
    26 Jul: "Honky Tonk Women" by The Rolling Stones
    30 Aug: "In The Year 2525 (Exordium And Terminus)" by Zager And Evans
    20 Sep: "Bad Moon Rising" by Creedence Clearwater Revival


    Top Pops #1's (becomes Top Pops & Music Now effective 27 September)

    5 Jul: "Oh Happy Day" by The Edwin Hawkins Singers (BMRB #2, NME #2, MM #2)
    12 Jul: "In The Ghetto" by Elvis Presley
    19 Jul: "Something In The Air" by Thunderclap Newman
    26 Jul: "Honky Tonk Women" by The Rolling Stones
    9 Aug: "Saved By The Bell" by Robin Gibb (BMRB #2, NME #3, MM #2)
    23 Aug: "My Cherie Amour" by Stevie Wonder (BMRB #4, NME #3, MM #3)
    30 Aug: "In The Year 2525 (Exordium And Terminus)" by Zager And Evans (last #1 under TP name)
    27 Sep: "Don't Forget To Remember" by The Bee Gees (1st #1 as TP&MN; BMRB #2, NME #2, MM #2)

    As with the second quarter, the BMRB determined four records made #1 between July and September. Every one of them also got there in New Musical Express and Melody Maker, but only three did same in Top Pops (& Music Now).

    More observations:
    - The chart trajectory of Elvis' big comeback hit pretty much held in the U.S. as well: It had reached the top of Cash Box and Record World, but in Billboard it could get no higher than #3. Here in the UK, it was the first time since The Rolling Stones' "19th Nervous Breakdown" in 1966, the first time in the "Official" era, and the only time in this decade after the establishment of same, that a record would make #1 everywhere but. (As far as MM was concerned, this was one of two "other" #1's they had in this year - all that made one or more "other" charts.)
    - By contrast, the trajectory of Creedence Clearwater Revival's big hit was the reverse of the U.S.: It had topped the Record World "100 Top Pops" chart, but stalled at #2 in both Billboard and Cash Box. Over on BB, the record that blocked it from the top was "Love Theme From Romeo And Juliet" by Henry Mancini, His Orchestra And Chorus - which failed to make any of the four UK charts. ("Get Back" blocked this in Cash Box.) But for TP's #2 finish, this would have been an across-the-board #1 here.
    - Four of the six #1's unique to Top Pops (& Music Now) were in this quarter alone.
    - All three U.S. charts had positions for "My Cherie Amour" similar to in the UK: #4 in Billboard, #3 in both Cash Box and Record World. Unlike the UK however, there wasn't a fourth music chart to declare it #1 (as one or two of the "others" did with some of Mr. Wonder's singles in this period; despite his hit streak, he wouldn't have a #1 in Billboard between "Fingertips - Pt 2" in 1963 and "Superstition" in early 1973).
     
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  24. Finchingfield

    Finchingfield Forum Resident

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    I don't know that I would say the Top Pops/Music Now charts are accorded equal status to the others, as of right now. They are definitely ascending, thanks to the charts you've posted on UKMix, your article on Wiki, and being included in more discussions in all things chart related on other chart sites. More and more chart freaks are and will be learning about them. I do hope they get to equal status, they are of high importance to a lot of us already.

    I didn't know that Top Pops/Music Now the 'music paper' was mostly sold at WH Smith's stores. That could be the case, I just hadn't heard that before. According to Alan Smith, TP/MN the 'music paper' had existed a year before they started producing their charts, calculated from WHS record sales. Alan says they made a deal, TP/MN would give WHS free ads if WHS would provide their sales data to TP/MN so they could construct a chart.

    But yeah, lots of interesting results on the TP/MN charts for sure. I do consider them all very important. I hope one day we can find all of the full LP charts to finish your work on UKMix !!
     
  25. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector Thread Starter

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    I didn't do the TP/MN #1's page on Wiki, it was already there, and that was why I ended up creating Wiki pages for all the MM and Disc #1's - and the 1969-88 chart comparisons in the "Official" era up to the point NME and MM threw in the towel.

    Interestingly, I trawl eBay for any ish's for affected missing or incomplete charts, as some sellers have thankfully put up photos or scans of pages where the charts were. It is more complete now than it started out on the UKMix thread of TP/MN's weekly charts, but as you'd say, there's still a lot to go. (Same goes with at least two weeks of 45 charts - 21 July 1968 and one of the weeks in March 1969.) But we now know that up until its 1970 reboot as Music Now, they carried a portion of U.S. Record World's charts, the only known music paper in Britain to do so.

    At least one Briton has said he lived there "at the time" and didn't even know TP/MN the 'music paper' even existed. You may know his handle on YouTube - '666msg666'. On singles from May 1968 to the "Official" launch, singles debuts on TP are left out while RR's, NME's and MM's are all there.
     
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