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On 9 October 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Haakon VII. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Requested move 9 October 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. The arguments bring up good points: usual WP:SOVEREIGN criteria may apply (per the opposers), but that criteria's own exception may also apply if the Norweigan monarchy "use[s] a completely different namestock,...need not follow this convention; there is no disambiguation to pre-empt." I'm closing instead of relisting because as Dr. Vogel mentioned, this affects many articles (such as Haakon's successors) and needs broader discussion—at the relevant WikiProjects or as a multi-move request. (non-admin closure) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 15:41, 18 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Haakon VII of Norway → Haakon VII – further disambiguation isn't need PK2 (talk) 05:11, 8 October 2022 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Dr. Vogel (talk) 13:07, 9 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, I see your point and personally I think shorter titles are better. At the same time, things look a bit inconsistent here. For example look at this template. It would be good to make all these more consistent. Do you have any thoughts on this whole thing? Dr. Vogel (talk) 12:30, 8 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If there's uncertainty it should go to WP:RM. Personally I support this move though. -Kj cheetham (talk) 23:07, 8 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

WP:SOVEREIGN also applies. I don't know if "Haakon VII" counts as a common name, but might count as "completely different namestock". -Kj cheetham (talk) 23:11, 8 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I support this move too. I would be tempted to just do it, but I wanted to see what people thought about the consistency issue. Dr. Vogel (talk) 01:44, 9 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I oppose move. And know others will likely contest it too. Not a technical move. Use an RM. Walrasiad (talk) 07:46, 9 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment Haakon VII (disambiguation) -- 65.92.247.226 (talk) 08:54, 8 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don't think the existence of that dabpage is a problem, because all the entries are about things named after that king anyway. Dr. Vogel (talk) 12:27, 8 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I support the proposed move on the basis of WP:PRECISE and WP:CONCISE points of our article titles guideline. The territorial qualifier is of no use. Compare with articles about his contemporaries, George V, Alfonso XII, and Gustaf V. Surtsicna (talk) 13:29, 9 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I will support if the consistency issue is addressed. Dr. Vogel (talk) 13:32, 9 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Support per nom. HandsomeFella (talk) 12:13, 10 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Strong Oppose, per WP:SOVEREIGN. The norm achieved by consensus is "Monarch # of Country". This fellow is not sufficiently notable in popular culture to be made an exception. 04:34, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
Oppose per WP:SOVEREIGN. Let's stick to "Monarch # of Country" for all but the most prominent monarchs. No such user (talk)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.