Which Timeline Should I Write? | alternatehistory.com

Which Timeline Should I Write?

Which Timeline Should be Written?


  • Total voters
    114
  • Poll closed .
OP
After four months, one of my current timeline projects will end, which will give me a new slot for a new one. And considering, I need the time to research, I thought I would ask this question now.

So which of these ideas seem most interesting to you guys?

1. The Lost Lands - The Iberians slowly encroach on Islamic territory in Iberia, taking back what was once theirs. But in Britannia, the situation in the latter half of the 800s is far from the same. The original inhabitants of the island - the Britons, have been pushed beyond the mountains into Cymru, whilst the Angles and Saxons have taken the best lands. Rhodri the Great seemed like a person willing to bring back Brythonic glory, but he is dead. And the dreams of reuniting Cymru with the Lost Lands have no fallen into the hands of Rhodri's sons. This is the story of the Brythonic Reconquest led by the Four Sons of Rhodri the Great.

2. They Come From the North: Jayastithi Malla died in our timeline, a man bereft of his dreams. A hardened Vajrayana Buddhist, he believed that the Nepala Mandala, which fractured into disunity in the 890s needed to be reunited. He believed that in order to combat Islam, Buddhism would need to prevail again and the man created the foundations for a Buddhist North Indian Empire. But he died in our timeline, unable to fulfill either of his dreams of a reunited Nepal and a Buddhist North India. But what if, he didn't catch camp fever, and his dreams became reality? How does the world deal with a resurgent Buddhist force?

3. The Kayser-i Rûm: When Mehmed II died, he had grand plans of an Ottoman Italy, enforcing his claim to the Roman throne, and becoming the Caliph and much much more. But he died, relatively young for the time, to the relief of all Christendom as the Great Eagle of the Ottomans died before the full extent of his ambitions could be reached. But what if he didn't die so early? In this timeline we delve into the history of the Ottoman Empire, the Islamic reincarnation of the Eastern Roman Empire, founded by Mehmed II, had he been able to rule as fully as he had initially intended.

4. The Sapphire Throne: Charles XII was the right monarch at the wrong time for the Swedish Empire. If he had ascended to the throne during a solid age, he would have likely been remembered as Sweden's greatest monarchs, even greater than his portrayal in our timeline. Charles XI was the pragmatic King, the man behind the glory and height of the Swedish Empire. His early death marked the beginning of the end for the Swedish Empire. But what if Charles XI died a decade later? European and world history changes as a result of the survival of the Swedish Empire.

5. The Greater East: In 1410, the lucrative fur trade came to an abrupt halt in the Sinosphere, creating a minor recession. In his desperation to find a solution to his economic woes, the Yongle Emperor lent his ears to the Yakut and Kamachatkal traders in China, both of whom told him grand stories of a land full of fur far to the east across the Great Ocean. The Yongle Emperor commissioned four ships under the command of Captain Yang Jian to find this vast new land. But before this exploration fleet could commence, the fur trade resumed, and the entire plan was shelved. But what if the fur trade did not resume and the exploration went ahead as planned? The discovery of Alaska and British Colombia in the 1400s by the Chinese changes the history of the New World in its entirety.

6. The Mediterannean Taifas: The Taifa of Majorca and the Emirate of Sicily are two anomalies in European history, as they represent two Islamic maritime powers operating in the Mediterannean as a mercantilist power, something that was only done by Venice and Genoa during those time periods. Both of these Islamic powers had the capability and potential, but neither could fulfill them, due to both internal and external reasons. But what if they did? How would the survival of Islamic Balearic Islands and Sicily change history?

7. The Great Kiev: Vladimir the Great, Vladimir the Saint, the man who introduced Eastern Orthodoxy to the Kievan Rus, leading to Orthodox Russia, Belarus, and Ukraine today. His decision to convert to Eastern Orthodoxy was massive in its implications. Yet it less known today that Vladimir tried to dabble into reforming Slavic Paganism, so that the Kievan Rus could at least try to remain within its roots. This attempt failed. Yet, this failure was a close run thing, and if not for the meddling of Constantinople and internal dissenters, it is possible that reformation could have succeeded. And it does in this timeline, and the Rus, the beacon of the Slavic world in the Early to Mid Middle Ages, remains and stays pagan as a result. It's implications are massive.

8. Those Crazy Romanovs! - Parliament is more angry with Charles I and Charles I pushes the wrong buttons during his trial. The original plan of killing the entire English Royal Family during the English Civil War is as such, carried out. But one Henrietta Anne of England is whisked away by her retainers, who flee to the only nation in Europe who actually responded to the English Regicide with actions - Russia. Henrietta Anne grows up in Russia, and marries the second son of Tsar Alexei of Russia. In 1662, the Commonwealth falls, and royalists are on resurgent in the British Islands. From their, they ask Henrietta Anne to retake the throne. She accepts, and returns to England, with her husband and children in tow. Thus began the rule of the House of Romanov-Stuart in Britain.

9. This Land of Ice: During the Icelandic Reformation, Icelandic notables intended to use the opening to declare independence and restore the Icelandic Commonwealth. This resulted in failure for a multitude of reasons, but what if it didn't? What if Iceland broke away from the Kalmar Union, mirroring the Swedes in mainland Europe? Situated right at the mid-point of the Northern European trade routes into North America, Iceland had a lot to gain from independence, and they seize their chance....

10. This Nation of Assassins: The Order of the Hashasin. From the 11th to 13th centuries, they were feared throughout the Middle Eastern world. They killed without fear, and feared no retribution. Yet this small Order had the potential to become much much more. They were offered titles, emirates, taifas, all were rejected. But what if they weren't. How does the entire world react to a new sort of Islamic power, rising in Syria and Mesopotamia, based entirely on assassination and its guild works? Worse for the Sunnis, the Hashashins are Shia. A unique future awaits.......

Multiple voting is on for people who can't decide on one.
 
I have been interested in a Chinese Alaska since your thread, so The Greater East gets my vote. Slavic paganism is also fascinating though...

Do you have a link to Zheng He by Zhou Zibin BTW? It sounds really interesting. I'd like to buy a copy for myself.
 
Well, the Kayser-i-Rum scenario is interesting, especially as Moonlight in a Jar by Planet of Hats with the Bataids has awakened me to the potential of a Muslim Roman Empire.
 
I really hope we see an Ottoman empire that's more inspired by the Eastern Roman empire than otl. A Roman Empire that is wholeheartedly Islamic is something that I would like to see explored.
 
I really hope we see an Ottoman empire that's more inspired by the Eastern Roman empire than otl. A Roman Empire that is wholeheartedly Islamic is something that I would like to see explored.
Planet of Hats already did it with the Bataid Empire in Moonlight in a Jar
 
I really wish you could create a timetable for Egypt in the 19th century or even medieval Egypt, but unfortunately since there is no choice here, I propose the creation of the great pagan Kiev and how the world will be shaped by the presence of a pagan Russia alive.
 
I’d really love to see the Nepal one. It’d be a very unique and fresh idea. I also really like the Iceland idea for the same reason. But I also really like the Sapphire Throne, and I greatly anticipate what you’ll do with it if it wins!
 
I voted for Kayser-i Rûm, since I loved your Post-1900 timeline on the Ottomans and would love to see something similar on Pre-1900.
 
I would love to see how the Restoration of the monarchy would go with Queen Henrietta I and husband, as well as future Britain under house Romanov-Stuart.
The only I could see is that, Tsar Alexis of Russia lost two of his sons early:
1) Tsarevich Dmitri Alexeevich (1648–1649); crown prince; died in infancy
2) Tsarevich Alexei Alexeevich (1654–1670); crown prince; died unwed aged 15
3) Tsarevich Fyodor Alexeevich (1661–1682); succeeded his father as Tsar Fyodor III of Russia.
What about an alternative born son in 1644, to son of Tsar Michael and Eudoxia Streshneva.

Michael m. Eudoxia Streshneva
1) Tsarevna Irina (22/4/1627-8/4/1679) never married [?]
2) Tsarevna Pelagia (17/8/1628-25/12/1/1629)
3) Tsar Alexei I (19/3/1629-29/1/1676)​
4) Tsarevna Anna (14/7/1630-27/10/1692) never married [?]
5) Tsarevna Martha (19/8/1631-21/9/1632)
6) Tsarevich Ivan (2/6/1633-10/1/1639)
7) Tsarevna Sophia (30/9/1634-23/6/1636)
8) Tsarevna Tatiana (5/1/1636-24/8/1706) never married [?]
9) Tsarevna Eudoxia (10/2/1637-10/2/1637)
10) Tsarevich Vasili (14/3/1639-25/3/1639)
11) Tsarevich Feodor, later Theodore I of England, Scotland and Ireland (17/1/1644- m. 1660, Queen Henrietta I of England, Scotland and Ireland (26/6/1644–30/6/1670)​

[?] The Muscovite Orthodox custom at the time dictated the ideal life of a Russian princess as a cloistered seclusion from the world; as they were not permitted to marry a non-Orthodox nor a partner below their social status, and there were no Orthodox Kingdoms other than Russia at the time, daughters of the tsar were expected never to marry, nor have any contact with men outside of the family during their life.​
 
It could be really interesting seeing the consequences of a Commonwealth with more Leveller influence.
 
I'm going to build a hyperbolic time chamber so you can write all of these. They're just all so great, its hard to pick one!
 
1. The Lost Lands - The Iberians slowly encroach on Islamic territory in Iberia, taking back what was once theirs. But in Britannia, the situation in the latter half of the 800s is far from the same. The original inhabitants of the island - the Britons, have been pushed beyond the mountains into Cymru, whilst the Angles and Saxons have taken the best lands. Rhodri the Great seemed like a person willing to bring back Brythonic glory, but he is dead. And the dreams of reuniting Cymru with the Lost Lands have no fallen into the hands of Rhodri's sons. This is the story of the Brythonic Reconquest led by the Four Sons of Rhodri the Great.
I like this.
 
Top