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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 10:53am On Nov 28, 2022
Shma2022:


Maybe you don't know the history of that school.
obaboon is dumb, ignore him. He doesn't know that Schools in 80s were majorly motivated by missionary movements.

Wesley Girls’ High School was founded by the wife of the 2nd Methodist Missionary to the Gold Coast, Mrs. Harriet Wrigley in 1836 with 25 girls.

Mind you, the term high school was not there, by then. The main aim for establishing that school was to offer basic education --- for missionary activities.

Her aim was to give the girls basic training in housekeeping and Catechism. Subjects taught included writing, reading, sewing and religious education. Classes were held at the Manse, in the Standfast Hall near the Victoria Park in Cape Coast.

The lady dies and it takes a whooping 43year for the second wife to convert it into a high school --- 43 yrs was for the basic foundation and plans to set the school to a highschool.

However, five months after arrival, Mrs. Wrigley died. It was not until 1837 that an efficient school head in the person of Mrs. Elizabeth Waldron took over the running of the school. She administered the school for 43 good year and laid a solid foundation for what was to become the Wesleyan Girls’ School and Training Home. Values such as fortitude, integrity and truthfulness soon become the hallmarks of the products of the school.


43 years down the line, the school was upgraded to a girls highschool with only 20 students. This is the time it gained a highschool status.
Theiracademic ability encouraged the Methodist church to agree to the provision of higher education for girls. Consequently, in 1884, Rev. W.M. Cannell who was then the Headmaster of Mfantsipim School started the Secondary section with 20 girls.


So the school was converted into a secondary in 1884.
it has always been a girls high school whether the term existed then or not.
The British high schools formed in the 1600s and 1700s where all teaching the very same things.
Sewing, house keeping, religious studies, reading and writing

Basically, Kenyans did not have any form of education untill 1900s
That is why you guys have nothing significant of history
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:06am On Nov 28, 2022
Your pride is being colonized since 15th century or what?
Kenya had no schools because it became a colony only in late 19th century - and that colonization lasted roughly 60yrs.
You got colonized for almost 500yrs and thats is hardly something to be proud of.
You became slave factory for centuries - had your gold shipped out for centuries...and what do you have to show for it.
Some high school?
Just40:
it has always been a girls high school whether the term existed then or not.
The British high schools formed in the 1600s and 1700s where all teaching the very same things.
Sewing, house keeping, religious studies, reading and writing

Basically, Kenyans did not have any form of education untill 1900s
That is why you guys have nothing significant of history
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:11am On Nov 28, 2022
As far as I know the decision has not been made. All high schools have build extra class. But that is not ideal. I hope they remain in same prijmary school. Ruto will make the decision soon.

And there is nothing the Mini Zoo can teach Kenya on education.

This is our second curriculum transition. In 1980s we dumped the British System for 8-4-4 (American/Canada system) - and transition successfully. We are now dumping 8-4-4 for CBC model (this what progressive nations like Finland are using now).

Just40:
your minister says they are all going to senior high school and will make them day students... So you're going to have 1.5 million kids who trek for 10km to 20kms just to have an education.

Your country does not have the money to provide class rooms and teachers.


Ghana was able to do the same 2 streams some years back when we reformed from 3 years to 4 years and also back from 4 years to 3 years because we had lots of infrastructure at our various secondary schools.

We did it successful with quality even increasing
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:15am On Nov 28, 2022
rvp2018:
Your pride is being colonized since 15th century or what?
Kenya had no schools because it became a colony only in late 19th century - and that colonization lasted roughly 60yrs.
You got colonized for almost 500yrs and thats is hardly something to be proud of.
You became slave factory for centuries - had your gold shipped out for centuries...and what do you have to show for it.
Some high school?
We were only colonized in the in the 1900s meanwhile you guys have been under Arab and Chinese colonization since the 1200s.

The earliest schools set up here we're mostly set up by indigenous Ghanaians.

The pride I'm talking about has to do with achievements over the last 1000 years, how come Kenyans achieved so little?

You guys couldn't stop the Europeans taking over your lands, because you were educated, you couldn't frame any of your constitution because you had no education, you couldn't run your country until the Europeans came since the Arabs were only interested in sending 18 million luos, kikuyus, kambas, maasais and co to be slaves in Arabia
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:15am On Nov 28, 2022
We are not using Ghana as benchmark for anything education because we already have Africa Best Education. So quit trying to impress us with your useless education - that is worse than South Africa.

Kenya already has Africa's best education bar Mauritus - and our focus really is an education systems that work for us while trying to become world class.

Just40:
There are plenty of failed schools in Kenya already...
Many of your high school can't manage to have at least 100 students because of lack of staff, poor infrastructure and poor performance..

Kenyan parents will rather send their kids to some far away boarding school and pay through their teeth than to have them in community schools with poor results.

You keep wondering why you society keep failing and so tribalistic .. and it all stem from the fact that your society is not enter mixing and you have not created Equity for all and you have failed at providing equal opportunities for all.

This is what Ghana thrives at and that is why our HDI is far higher than yours.
Inter mixing brilliant students from Montessori with those from public primary create room for better co learning environment and poor students manage to thrive.

We've done this with all our top schools, push 30% of poor performing students to them and by the time their 3 years is over, those 30% all become brilliant students and masters of their craft.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 11:15am On Nov 28, 2022
Just40:
it has always been a girls high school whether the term existed then or not.
The British high schools formed in the 1600s and 1700s where all teaching the very same things.
Sewing, house keeping, religious studies, reading and writing

Basically, Kenyans did not have any form of education untill 1900s
That is why you guys have nothing significant of history
People used to study geography, maths and languages as early as in 1700s.. Rabai stated teaching language in 1850s.. Ghana were being taught to be nannies/maids - for brits. That was slavery! Real education in this continent started the 1950s. Don't pride yourself on nonsense! Tell me the first Ghanaian to fly an airplane or operate a patient took place in these years... Then compare that with the giants of cerebral capacity; KENYA.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:16am On Nov 28, 2022
Idiots who paid 76B dollars in Gold for a white man not sit on some damn stool cannot tell me anything. Leave alone shipping the most slaves in Africa.

The fact that you enslaved millions of your own people make you the most useless of black race.

Just40:
We were only colonized in the in the 1900s meanwhile you guys have been under Arab and Chinese colonization since the 1200s.

The earliest schools set up here we're mostly set up by indigenous Ghanaians.

The pride I'm talking about has to do with achievements over the last 1000 years, how come Kenyans achieved so little?

You guys couldn't stop the Europeans taking over your lands, because you were educated, you couldn't frame any of your constitution because you had no education, you couldn't run your country until the Europeans came since the Arabs were only interested in sending 18 million luos, kikuyus, kambas, maasais and co to be slaves in Arabia
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:19am On Nov 28, 2022
rvp2018:
As far as I know the decision has not been made. All high schools have build extra class. But that is not ideal. I hope they remain in same prijmary school. Ruto will make the decision soon.

And there is nothing the Mini Zoo can teach Kenya on education.

This is our second curriculum transition. In 1980s we dumped the British System for 8-4-4 (American/Canada system) - and transition successfully. We are now dumping 8-4-4 for CBC model (this what progressive nations like Finland are using now).

We have always been teaching you everything about education.... Even your current educational policy was drafted for you by us...
You're still depending on my ministers help to guide you guys through it implementation.

You can't even provide property desks and clean class rooms for your students and you think you'll attain something different like Finland from the mass failures you've been having ? grin grin
Make it make sense ..


Ghana is on it 6th or 7th educational reform
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 11:21am On Nov 28, 2022
Just40:
We were only colonized in the in the 1900s meanwhile you guys have been under Arab and Chinese colonization since the 1200s.

The earliest schools set up here we're mostly set up by indigenous Ghanaians.

The pride I'm talking about has to do with achievements over the last 1000 years, how come Kenyans achieved so little?

You guys couldn't stop the Europeans taking over your lands, because you were educated, you couldn't frame any of your constitution because you had no education, you couldn't run your country until the Europeans came since the Arabs were only interested in sending 18 million luos, kikuyus, kambas, maasais and co to be slaves in Arabia

Forget about 1800... You're still under Chinese and brits slavery in 2022. IMF controls you, Chinese controls your precious resource.

Arabs were in costal region -- Lamu and old town - for missionary work. Old shanties you see in Mombasa were built by Arabs. That doent take away the fact that kenyans have built Nairobi that it is now! Mombasa is shining because of native Kenyan.

We have put a gap of 50yrs for your Accra and the gap is still growing wider.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:23am On Nov 28, 2022
Mini zoo cannot teach kenya anything education wise. Youre like Tanzania who are happy if they ever get one article showing they are somewhere ahead of kenya. KaziKazi have those things hanged on his walls.

Kenya has Africa best HIC, africa best education and it would be sacrilegious for us to borrow from Ghana. Finland, Singapore and such yes.

Just40:
We have always been teaching you everything about education.... Even your current educational policy was drafted for you by us...
You're still depending on my ministers help to guide you guys through it implementation.

You can't even provide property desks and clean class rooms for your students and you think you'll attain something different like Finland from the mass failures you've been having ? grin grin
Make it make sense ..


Ghana is on it 6th or 7th educational reform
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:24am On Nov 28, 2022
Shma2022:

Don't be an @rs --Hole.
7s is all about mental strength and speed. 15s needs energy and little skills.

We stunned Newzealand, Argentina, and Fiji to win singapore main cup.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8xyTURaKEQ


South Africa was knocked out in quarters.. I think.

Bonus:
Kenya has the fastest man in Africa. We're giants of sprints and long-distance races.
obviously you have never played rugby grin grin .....handling skills and stepping is only a tiny part of Rugby, in totality 15s require much much more skill
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:26am On Nov 28, 2022
rvp2018:
We are not using Ghana as benchmark for anything education because we already have Africa Best Education. So quit trying to impress us with your useless education - that is worse than South Africa.

Kenya already has Africa's best education bar Mauritus - and our focus really is an education systems that work for us while trying to become world class.

Your policy direction came from us.. we lead you in everything education and that is why your policy makers had no option but to seek our input.

I don't need to impress you... Our outcomes are impressive enough and that is why, all throughout history, your country have had to depend on us.

Kenyan education can only be compared with Liberia education.. you guys have the same struggles.

South African education is better than Kenya's, Ghana education is better than Kenya's, Egypt education is better than Kenya and I can go on to list more.
When you meet outcomes from Nigerian educational system,mine o mine they are brilliant

The results from these educational models are evident enough... Outcomes from their system are excelling all over the world.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:26am On Nov 28, 2022
Kenya has Africa highest education standards bar Mauritus. And this is backed by data. Ghana that got beaten blue by South Africa and came last last in PISA smiley smiley cannot teach Kenya anything education.
Just40:
Your policy direction came from us.. we lead you in everything education and that is why your policy makers had no option but to seek our input.

I don't need to impress you... Our outcomes are impressive enough and that is why, all throughout history, your country have had to depend on us.

Kenyan education can only be compared with Liberia education.. you guys have the same struggles.

South African education is better than Kenya's, Ghana education is better than Kenya's, Egypt education is better than Kenya and I can go on to list more.
When you meet outcomes from Nigerian educational system,mine o mine they are brilliant

The results from these educational models are evident enough... Outcomes from their system are excelling all over the world.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:31am On Nov 28, 2022
rvp20182:
Rugby 7 - Kenya and South Africa - are at par. It's on the 15s which South Africa is on anther level. Stop being petty.

You smoking some mad sh1t!! grin grin

SA - 4 series championships
Kenya - 0

SA - 2 gold , 2 Bronze @commonwealth games
Kenya - 0

SA - 1 gold , 1 Bronze Olympics
Kenya - 0

Head to Head

SA 36 - 4 Ken

Fyi the 7s world cup isn't even the biggest 7s tournament...the Olympics is considered the pinnacle of the sport.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:32am On Nov 28, 2022
Shma2022:

People used to study geography, maths and languages as early as in 1700s.. Rabai stated teaching language in 1850s.. Ghana were being taught to be nannies/maids - for brits. That was slavery! Real education in this continent started the 1950s. Don't pride yourself on nonsense! Tell me the first Ghanaian to fly an airplane or operate a patient took place in these years... Then compare that with the giants of cerebral capacity; KENYA.
Ghanaians were already schoolers by the late 1700s

Anton Wilhelm Amo

Anton Wilhelm Amo, was a great African philosopher born in 1703, originally from AXIM in Ghana.

At age 4 he was sent to Germany by the Dutch West India Company in 1707 and was presented to Dukes Augustus William & Ludwig Rudolf of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel.
He was treated as a MEMBER of the family by their father Anthony Ulrich, Duke of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel. Amo was the first African-born person known to have attended a European university.
Amo returned to the University of Halle to lecture in philosophy under the name Antonius Guilelmus Amo Afer. In 1736 he was made a professor.

In 1740 Amo took up a post in philosophy at the University of Jena.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:34am On Nov 28, 2022
World Bank have all the data. On average - Kenya kids scores - TWICE - Ghana kids - when assessed. It's not even CLOSE.

Kenya has historical high quality of education. Quality has never been a problem.

Ghana look at you kids scoring less than half - 255 - that borderline retarded.


https://datatopics.worldbank.org/education/wDashboard/dqlearningcnty

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:34am On Nov 28, 2022
rvp2018:
Idiots who paid 76B dollars in Gold for a white man not sit on some damn stool cannot tell me anything. Leave alone shipping the most slaves in Africa.

The fact that you enslaved millions of your own people make you the most useless of black race.

The most slave shipped in history come from East Africa... The records stand at 18 million

You guy were so dumb such that you had no economy, no society, no govt, no legal system and just roaming the dry maasai lands headless
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:35am On Nov 28, 2022
Shma2022:


On 15s, Africa is not just about South Africa. We have 54 countries! Out of all these, Kenya is number 3 just behind the Boers team and Namibia. So, we're good in rugby based on that sense.

When we go by Wakanda skin, Kenya is number 1. Only 2 players are of white decent.
SA has more black players than Namibia...in fact the game this weekend vs England 8 out 15 in the starting lineup weren't white.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:39am On Nov 28, 2022
Kenyans know their quality of education is okay. Kenyan kids on average outscores africa kids by far.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:39am On Nov 28, 2022
rvp20182:
Yes they normal just put a token black dude - it still largely a white team
2019 World cup team had 7/15 non white players in the final....would've been 8 if Trevor wasn't injured.

Your inferiority complex is actually sad
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:40am On Nov 28, 2022
Shma2022:


Forget about 1800... You're still under Chinese and brits slavery in 2022. IMF controls you, Chinese controls your precious resource.

Arabs were in costal region -- Lamu and old town - for missionary work. Old shanties you see in Mombasa were built by Arabs. That doent take away the fact that kenyans have built Nairobi that it is now! Mombasa is shining because of native Kenyan.

We have put a gap of 50yrs for your Accra and the gap is still growing wider.
Accra remain more developed than your Nairobi even it electricity consumption alone is more than half that of Kenya.
It tarred roads is more than half that of the entire Kenya. It provides better hosing, healthcare and education for it people.

Nairobi does not even come close when the entire Kenya is only doing twice of that city alone.

Get working, you have a long way to go

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:41am On Nov 28, 2022
In a country that 5% is white you dont find that odd. The reality is rugby in South Africa is white man sports. In kenya it's black - and mainstream sport in high school.

Inferiority complex is what AfriqueZuid has - that makes him denigrate kenya team - while rugby south africa is white man minority sports.

jl115:
2019 World cup team had 7/15 non white players in the final....would've been 8 if Trevor wasn't injured.

Your inferiority complex is actually sad
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:41am On Nov 28, 2022
gallivant:


Where are the black people in your Rugby teams? Remove the shackles of apartheid first then come talk to us about your shacks.
50% of the Springbok team is black........also your inferiority complex is showing wink
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:42am On Nov 28, 2022
When it 95% black - come and talk.
jl115:
50% of the Springbok team is black........also your inferiority complex is showing wink

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:43am On Nov 28, 2022
rvp2018:
Mini zoo cannot teach kenya anything education wise. Youre like Tanzania who are happy if they ever get one article showing they are somewhere ahead of kenya. KaziKazi have those things hanged on his walls.

Kenya has Africa best HIC, africa best education and it would be sacrilegious for us to borrow from Ghana. Finland, Singapore and such yes.

yet every constitution of Kenya have had to rely on Ghana input, every educational policy has relied on us, even your debt negotiations you had to rely on us.

It takes education to be at where we are, start educating your people properly grin grin

Kenya has the worse educational system on the continent right on the level of Liberia with mass failures and 100% transition grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:43am On Nov 28, 2022
rvp2018:
In a country that 5% is white you dont find that odd.
9%.......and we are talking about a particular group of people that produce an exceptionally large amount of quality Rugby players....

I can also ask you if you find it odd that a little island New Zealand with 2 million people have dominated Rugby for the past 30 years like no other
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:44am On Nov 28, 2022
Small country syndrome. We are not mini zoo.

Why would kenya copy from a counry where kids when assed dont even score 25% of reading or maths skills

Country that came LAST of last in PISA. Worse than South Africa.


Just40:
yet every constitution of Kenya have had to rely on Ghana input, every educational policy has relied on us, even your debt negotiations you had to rely on us.

It takes education to be at where we are, start educating your people properly grin grin

Kenya has the worse educational system on the continent right on the level of Liberia with mass failures and 100% transition grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:44am On Nov 28, 2022
rvp2018:
When it 95% black - come and talk.
Why must it be 95% black?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:45am On Nov 28, 2022
In short Rugby is not mainstream sport in South Africa - but a minority sport. In kenya is almost mainstream now in high school competing with football.
jl115:
9%.......and we are talking about a particular group of people that produce an exceptionally large amount of quality Rugby players....

I can also ask you if you find it odd that a little island New Zealand with 2 million people have dominated Rugby for the past 30 years like no other
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:45am On Nov 28, 2022
rvp2018:
Kenya has Africa highest education standards bar Mauritus. And this is backed by data. Ghana that got beaten blue by South Africa and came last last in PISA smiley smiley cannot teach Kenya anything education.
Kenya can't even out compete Ghana, SA, Egypt, Tunisia and co on this continent in other for it educational model to be compared globally with the like of South Korea, Finland and co.


No wonder you guys are left to sloganeering

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 11:47am On Nov 28, 2022
rvp2018:
Kenyans know their quality of education is okay. Kenyan kids on average outscores africa kids by far.
This wasn't even research based on the actual curriculum and teaching quality.....you know this right?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 11:48am On Nov 28, 2022
Kenya kids are better than Ghana teachers when assesed. That I bet is true.
Just40:
Kenya can't even out compete Ghana, SA, Egypt, Tunisia and co on this continent in other for it educational model to be compared globally with the like of South Korea, Finland and co.


No wonder you guys are left to sloganeering