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Theoretically, how long could microbes survive on a spacecraft?

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In the movie Aniara, a craft containing tens of thousands of people destined for Mars drifts off course. With no hope of returning, the people onboard go through their various coping mechanisms, trials and tribulations, hopes, and crushing defeats as they process their new reality.

Spoilers: Unfortunately, all efforts and hopes prove futile. The people aboard the craft succumb to their various fates and the metal sarcophagus drifts darkly, silently, through interstellar space. The desolate craft is filled with dust and floating human bones. 5.981 million years later, the Aniara collides with an earthlike planet somewhere in the Lyra constellation

Question: How long can microbes survive on an unsterilized craft? This would be a system with no gas exchange and no light energy. These lifeforms would be exposed to whatever radiation is present in interstellar space. Would a spaceship crashing into an earthlike planet after 5.981 million years have a chance at contaminating an existing biosphere?

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u/tghuverd avatar

There was a study a few years ago which concluded that frozen, desiccated, Deinococcus radiodurans could survive on Mars for almost 300 million years if they were buried ten meters below the surface. However, they were only chilled to -63 degrees Celsius and the ship would get much colder than this. But they were exposed to UV, gamma rays, and high-energy protons, which would likely penetrate a drifting ship.

So, it's conceivable microbes could survive six million or so years in a spaceship, and they might even survive atmospheric reentry, that ship looks big enough.

No comment on the microbes, but that movie definitely left me with a dreadful feeling. It’s been a while since I saw it, but probably not one I’ll rewatch although I thought it was pretty good.

I had never heard of this movie, but I’m equally interested in watching it and horrified by the depressing premise. Seems like I should probably check it out!

u/surf_like_yer_mum avatar

Highly recommended. There is a spectrum of emotions I felt watching it, and definitely find myself pondering it from time to time. Solid movie

Talk about a movie that makes you want to go outside, inhale, and feel the grass between your toes

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We don't know the upper limit.

If sufficiently shielded from ionizing radiation (a metre or six of regolith ought to do it) then a quarter of a Gyr appears to be tolerable by at least one flavour of psychrophile.

https://www.bioprocessonline.com/doc/250-million-year-old-bacterial-spore-comes-ba-0001#:~:text=Researchers%20from%20West%20Chester%20University,cavern%20in%20southeast%20New%20Mexico.

This. Keep in mind microbes survive under ice sheets on earth for thousands of years. I wouldn't be surprised if they survive tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands in a suspended state.

u/sceadwian avatar

Cosmic radiation would like to have a word with you.

Hello Cosmic Radiation, meet my friend Mr Tardigrade. Also meet my other friends Rando Microbes on the outside of the space station and probably every probe we've ever sent into space.

u/sceadwian avatar

Nothing survives cosmic rays. It's just a matter of time. What was suspected to be a single proton has been clocked at 0.9999999999999999999999951 times the speed of light.

If that hit anything it would dump the energy of a 1kg mass dropped from a two story building into a point the size of an atomic nucleus.

It would explode into a nuclear shotgun blast of subatomic particles of many kinds.

Orbit is still largely protected by Earth and the solar system itself. Interstellar space isn't so nice so you're using inappropriate examples to support the Idea.

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Yup. The spore stage of a bacterium is a wizened thing: handy scaffolds arise to proect and prop up the DNA as most of that pesky water is lost.

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u/Roook36 avatar

dumb guy in group speaks up

"Heh. Can I get that in English, doc? Heh."

There’s a bacteria that can survive for 250 million years as long as it is buried under several feet of dirt to protect it.

u/sceadwian avatar

On earth yeah. Space is way worse.

Oh yes, but evolution and adaptation is an amazing tool.

Thinking about how quick bacteria in our bodies evolve to resist anti-biotic, it isn't unrealistic to say that this COULD be possible

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u/The_Beagle avatar

Buff angry dude grunts from the corner

“I don’t give a damn what it is, I’ll shoot it. Dead.

racks shotgun

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What's your favorite flavour of psychrophile? 🍦🦠

Radiodurans (though it's not technically a psychrophile) is my fave extremophile.

And I might have erred as the 250 Myr spore is, I guess, technically a halophile.

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Some microbes can survive for millions of years, so yes they have a chance. It’s the entire premise of the pan-spermia theory.

My guess is that one day we'll discover microbes on a comet

JENOVA has entered the chat

If the panspermia hypothesis is correct, then Earth should currently be a source of life for the solar system.

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In terms of temperature and chemical stability it seems at least conceivable that a microbe in some frozen dessicated stasis could remain viable for millions of years - but interstellar space is filled with various forms of radiation that would almost certainly obliterate complex organic molecules over that timeframe unless they were very carefully shielded.

So... Probably not in that scenario. A mars bound vessel would not be built with that level of shielding, as it would be designed to keep humans reasonably safe from dangerous radiation exposure for ~6 months - not six million years.

Some microbes can even form Endospores that can survive extreme conditions until favorable conditions return.

In fact, We’ve found endospores that have been dated to around the time of the dinosaurs, so some may in fact survive… forever…

If sufficiently shielded, such spores could likely last a very long time - but the radiation exposure in space is quite a lot higher than here on Earth, and there is no mechanism by which a small inert spore could prevent ionizing radiation from shredding it over periods of extended exposure. Ionizing radiation is pretty much anathema to all organic structures, given sufficient intensity and exposure.

They don't have mass shielding or powerful magnetic fields protecting them, for example - which spores on Earth DO have, by way of our planet's magnetic field, it's atmosphere, whatever rock it might be embedded below, etc.

Even here on Earth one of the most basic way to sterilize something is to leave it lying in direct sunlight for a while. The UV will kill most forms of microscopic life fairly quickly, which is why you don't generally see mold or bacteria growing anywhere that gets regular sunlight.

That’s true about the endospores. I’m curious if Deinococcus radiodurans could survive this level of radiation though. I don’t know how strong radiation is in space

They survived 3 years in space and can handle radiation that will kill humans and E. coli.

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u/peter303_ avatar

The analogy is deep rock microbes on Earth. In nearly every place geologists have drilled miles deep holes in rock, microbes have been found if the rock temperature has stayed below 250 degrees F. Some of these microbes may have been buried in such rocks for tens of millions of years with minimal food sources.

u/Memes_the_thing avatar

I heard the mir station developed a rather nasty internal biome

u/mcarterphoto avatar

Just props for mentioning one of my favorite movies of all time (though my wife wasn't as enthused as I was). Easily in my top-ten.

One note though, on the ending: Aniara doesn't collide with anything; it either passes or enters the orbit of an earth-like planet.

u/inlinefourpower avatar

Some bacteria survived on surveyor 3 on the moon's surface for years. Some microbes, it seems, can do well in space. 

NASA has a job specifically for this to make sure we mitigate contaminating the solar system while searching for life.

Gee, I am so glad I bailed on that movie 20 minutes in. I had a bad feeling about it.

Yeah I didn't even mention the killing of children

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A study done on patients in a nursing home showed residents who lived in a certain room kept catching the same illness over and over again (different residents would move in, get sick). The bacteria was linked back to the very first resident who fell ill with it seven years prior. They found it on the door knob. It was proven to be the same organism after testing was done.

u/spaceman_spiff1969 avatar

2 1/2 years inside the solar panel of Surveyor 3 that Apollo 12 brought back from the moon.

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There is really not a straightforward answer for this

First, how do we define survival?

Defining death is much more difficult for microbes than humans, and there is still the occasional person that wakes up in the morgue. Meaning that they were declared legally dead but they weren't.

Viable but nonculturable is this whole controversial subject, that people even argue about the definition of.

Then 99% of microbes don't have defined culture conditions.

There are ways to detect microbial metabolic activity without culturing them (that have metabolic activity we can test for), but spores aren't metabolically active.

There are many many species of microbe that are living their best lives in the environment or taking a nap (sporulated) that we can't prove if they are alive or dead.

Very few microbes can infect people in a noticeable way, or even live as commensals on our skin even transiently. If any particular thing is alive, it isn't very likely it would cause us as much as an itch. I'm not saying it isn't a possibility, just that the odds are very low on an individual microbial species.

Anyway, yes, it isn't implausible that a spaceship crashing into an earth-like planet after 6 million years could have a chance at altering an existing biosphere. We might not be able to grow it in a lab on earth,and it might not be able to grow in or on us.

u/sciguy52 avatar

Not an easy question to answer exactly. But 5+ million years of radiation exposure is going to get everything. Spores are the hardiest thing bacteria make but they are not invincible. So sort of depends on where the craft is, how much radiation it is exposed to etc. but with enough radiation those spores will be killed. If the craft gets a lot of radiation in a short time it would be sterilized pretty quickly. If it is a lower level of radiation over a longer time it will take longer. I think you would be hard pressed to find anything alive at 50k years, but would probably be even faster than that. Regular, growing bacteria, that is non spores would only survive as long as there were nutrients and proper conditions for growth so those are not going to last long at all unless you have tried to set up some situation where they could survive longer. I haven't seen the movie so am sort of assuming it is just a regular space ship and not something designed to protect spores as long as possible.

I’m just commenting so I can come back to this post when someone more knowledgeable answers. Super interesting question!

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u/IDunnoNuthinMr avatar

For the rest of their life. Just like you and me. Haha

It is very reasonable to believe that some microbes would be able to survive within the ship, despite the conditions. Sounds like a good premise for a sequel haha