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DOOMSTARKS: A History Of Ghostface Killah / DOOM Collaborations

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With the supposed impending release of a Ghostface Killah / DOOM joint album, I figured it would be a good time to collect in one spot all their past collaborations, as well as some of the speculation that has surrounded the possible album over the last decade plus. I have included tracks where it's only Ghostface on the mic over DOOM production.


A Ghostface / MF DOOM album has been discussed in earnest for nearly 11 years, starting in March of 2005 when Ghostface first announced that he had been in the studio recording with DOOM. He claimed the two had completed six tracks together, and announced that their joint LP would be out later that year. While the full album didn't materialize in 2005 as intended, we did get their first officially released collaboration that fall.

DANGERDOOM - The Mask (feat. Ghostface) - October 2005

Released on 2005's The Mouse and The Mask, (a joint album released by Danger Mouse and MF DOOM as DANGERDOOM), "The Mask" further intensified speculation of the proposed joint album, as Ghostface provided a guest verse over a Danger Mouse-produced track.

Around the same time, Ghost and DOOM graced the cover of Mass Appeal magazine in order to promote their then upcoming joint album. First revealed in an interview within the magazine was that DOOM production would also be appearing on Ghostface's then upcoming solo album, tentatively titled 'Fish Scale'.

Ghostface Killah - Charlie Brown (prod. MF DOOM) - January 2006

Released as part of an advance Fishscale sampler, "Charlie Brown" was the only track on the advance produced by DOOM, and also the only track that didn't make the full length album due to sample clearance issues. Only one verse was originally included on the sampler, but I've included the full length version that would later leak.

Ghostface Killah & MF Doom - Angels - February 2006

The next month, a Ghost/DOOM track would be released on the compilation Natural Selection, released by the label Nature Sounds. The song is a storytelling track over DOOM production, with both Ghostface and DOOM supplying verses.

Ghostface Killah - 9 Milli Bros (feat. Wu-Tang Clan, prod. MF DOOM) - March 2006

Ghostface Killah - Clipse of Doom (feat. Trife, prod. MF DOOM)

Ghostface Killah - Jellyfish (feat. Cappadonna, Shawn Wigs & Trife, prod. MF DOOM)

Ghostface Killah - Underwater (prod. MF DOOM)

When Ghostface's Fishscale album was released in March 2006, DOOM received production credit on four tracks: 9 Milli Bros., Clipse of Doom, Jellyfish, and Underwater. The production for these songs originated from DOOM's Special Herbs series, on the tracks Fenugreek, Four Thieves Vinegar, Sumac Berries, and Orange Blossoms respectively.

Following the release of Fishscale, DOOM announced on MySpace that the DOOM / Ghost album, then being referred to as Swift & Changeable, would be released February of 2007.

Ghostface Killah - Guns 'N Razors (feat. Cappadonna, Killa Sin & Trife, prod. MF DOOM) - December 2006

Ghostface Killah - Alex (Stolen Script)

Ghost released his second album of 2006 More Fish in December - it was mostly composed of Fishscale leftovers and other unreleased material. Included were two tracks over original DOOM production, "Guns 'N Razors" and "Alex (Stolen Script)".

DOOM - Angelz (feat. Ghostface Killah) - March 2009

It would be three years until the next collaboration was released, and it disappointingly ended up being a modified version of the prior released "Angels". The slightly altered track had new drums, more DOOM ad-libs, and a couple barely-changed DOOM lines, including a reference to Charlie Murphy changed to refer to Mr. T.

Ghostface Killah & MF DOOM - Chinatown Wars - March 2009

However, later that week, a brand-new track "Chinatown Wars" was released as part of what was then the latest entry in Rockstar's GTA series, the aptly named Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars. The track, produced by Oh No, was featured in-game.

In an interview July of 2009, Ghostface stated that in regards to their joint album, he's waiting on DOOM.

DoomStarks - Victory Laps (prod. DOOM) - July 2011

Two years later, the duo released a brand new track "Victory Laps" under the moniker DoomStarks. The official remix by MADVILLAINZ was actually released a couple weeks before the DOOM-produced original. Nature Sounds released both versions officially on a 12" LP and a limited edition cassette. "Victory Laps" was thought to be the lead single from the DOOMSTARKS album.

Late 2011, Ghostface again revealed in an interview that the continued holdup is due to DOOM dragging his feet. The next three years were then filled with occasional speculation along with diminishing hopes of the album actually panning out. Hope was slightly renewed when in December of 2014, Ghostface himself announced here in r/hiphopheads to expect DOOMStarks come 2015.

BADBADNOTGOOD & Ghostface Killah - Ray Gun (feat. DOOM) - January 2015

The very next month, DOOM and Ghostface appeared on the same track for the first time in nearly four years. It finally came together on the BBNG x Ghostface album Sour Soul, where DOOM supplied a guest verse on the track "Ray Gun". This song was released a month before the full release of the Sour Soul album in February.

DOOMSTARKS - Lively Hood (prod. DOOM) - September 2015

"Lively Hood" is as of now the most recent release we have by the two. It came out as part of the Adult Swim Singles program, and features Ghost and DOOM over DOOM production.

Later that December, Ghostface announced in an interview that the DOOMSTARKS album should be expected February 2016, where we stand right now.

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February of 2007.

so in 1 year we can celebrate the decade anniversary of the announcement of an album that still hadn't come out?

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New detox

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what, does it not say it was announced in 2005 or am i crazy

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While the full album didn't materialize in 2005 as intended, we did get their first officially released collaboration that fall.

The Mask was off of the DANGERDOOM album.

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Also says ghost first announced it in 2005 and that their joint album was gonna come out later that year

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But 2007 was the first time we heard about Swift and Unchangable.

Or 2006.

Here, in 1 year we can celebrate the decade mark of the due date for swift and unchangable.

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We celebrated that March 2015, though you're free to celebrate whenever you'd like

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i dun did werd it poorly

The decade anniversary of when it should have originally came out.

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tbf, he also said we were gonna get it in 2015, a year ago. xd

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Thanks for this! very informative.

What is the current date in february that it's speculated for?

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Well... yesterday.

Thats the only date that had been given out by a news source, and it is wrong.

welp, I thought with the album artwork coming out this would be a little more confirmed. always like doom, always like ghost. them together is just a fluffernutter.

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not sure that artwork was ever confirmed as legit but the artist it came from def does some dope shit

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Did this guy make the flatbush zombies logo? All his artwork looks like that

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what if it's been done for like 6 years and they're just searching for a dope cover

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After making you wait 10 years you think that's the cover lol


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u/Izzy7s7 avatar

Interesting tidbit about when DOOM met Ghost for the first time at around 1:50:08 if the timestamp doesn't work.

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I dont get it, thats not DOOM speaking

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It's Despot talking about how he brought DOOM and Ghostface together

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Thank you

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u/tayneicangetinto avatar

originally left that out because I see that as more of the label combining two separate songs rather than a collab. might edit it in though

u/bobi897 avatar

this post is great man, I knew DOOM produced some for Ghostface but didn't know he had this many beats on GFK albums.

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thanks, appreciate it

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u/OG4HeadDumpstered avatar

3 of my most favorite people in rap music, never heard this and it's exactly what I thought it would be, can't believe I missed this, thanks :)

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If someone can put this into a spotify playlist I'll be just the happiest.

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I'm guessing a good chunk of these aren't on Spotify? At least some of the loosies

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Is it possible to save playlists? (On the app)

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Man you know those niggas are too baked to actually release this project. As someone said in a thread about like a week ago, Ive been waiting on this album since I was in middle school

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Soo we basically got an albums worth of material while still waiting for the album for 11 years? Lol imagine they just compile all these tracks and that's that lmao

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Dang I didn't know this had been on the shelf for so long. Good writeup OP hopefully it comes in this next week or two and DOOM doesn't go missing.

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Victory Laps (Madvillainz Remix) is one of my favorite loose tracks ever

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Thank you OP, you saved me a ton of time trying to make a playlist of all these songs myself.

HHH needs more posts like this. It would be cool to see all the collabs from a lot of different artists and kinda see what a collab album might sound like.

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THANKS

The original "Angels" is one of my favorite songs of all time. My MySpace page died with that song on my profile.

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thank you for this post man, didnt know they had this many collabs.

Thanks for this list, still hoping its out this month would be great start to year...

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Thanks this is an excellent resource

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thanks for this

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I only recently started getting really into both DOOM and Ghostface's music and they're quickly becoming two of my favorite artists ever. As in, them and Lupe probably make up my top 3.

I'm still making my way through their discographies but if DOOMSTARKS came out this month... it would be perfect.

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Thank you for your research, playboy. You know I got you