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Outrageously based, good mapping bro.
Aside from the “they didn’t give citizenship to Black people since 1991” part that is.
Sort of. After the North secedes, Slavery continues a generation longer than in OTL, eventually ending in 1881 in the United States (aka The Union). The freed black population is not given the franchise until the 1990s, nearly 100 years later. As part of the Constitutional Convention of 1990, a package of amendments is passed including the 17th, 18th, and 19th amendment.
TTL's 13th amendment abolished slavery, but their 14th amendment codified Jim Crow segregation.
Their 15th amendment established an income tax
Their 16th amendment gave women the right to vote
Their 17th amendment repealed the 14th amendment and introduced the idea of equal protection
Their 18th amendment prohibited the denail of the right to vote based on race
Their 19th amendment set term limits for the Presidency (this was a result of nearly 32 years of rule by President General Douglas MacArthur)
Hopefully the Northeast at least is still free and equal.
Oh and to clarify, the citizenship thing is for people born in Orleans & Saint Bernard- the same way people in Northern Ireland can get a British AND an Irish passport
It is! The Commonwealth, Indiana, the Empire of Mexico, Canada, and O&SB are all free nations.
Thank you! I’m pleased with the way it came out- took forever to do all those little details on the coastline.
I never get the textures just right, I want to make it look more like old paper
To me brother they look great, hope to see more like this!
In this scenario, the U.S. probably doesn't do anything to prevent the natural diversion of the Mississippi to the Atchafalaya River. And if that happened, this territory would become pretty useless.
Orleans & St. Bernard, colloquially known as New Orleans, is a British Overseas Territory in North America. The capital city and largest city is New Orleans. The territory shares a land border with the United States of America. Together with Bermuda, Anguilla, the British Virgin Islands, the Cayman Islands, and Turks & Caicos it is part of the West Indies Federation. The West Indies Federation is one of three dominions of the United Kingdom in North America along with Indiana and Canada.
HISTORY
Founded in 1718 by French colonists, Orleans has been governed by four different nations: France, Spain, the United States, and the United Kingdom. From 1762 to 1801 the city was governed by Spain before being retroceded to France. In 1803, the French Republic sold the Louisiana territory to the United States of America. In 1804 the territory was organized and incorporated as the Orleans Territory including 12 counties: Orleans, LaFource, German Coast, Acadia, Iberville, Attakapas County, Pointe Coupee, Opelousas, Rapides, Concordia, Natchitoches, and Ouachita county. Today much of the old Orleans territory is part of the Union states of Louisiana and West Florida.
In 1812 after the battle of New Orleans the parish of Orleans was occupied by the British Army. Under the terms of the Treaty of Ghent, the city was declared a “Free International Port” under British administration.
As the occupation of New Orleans occurred after the Slave Trade Act of 1807, the immediate impact of the occupation was the prohibition of the importation of slaves into the territory. As New Orleans had been a major center of the slave economy of the United States, the resulting shock caused the Crash of 1815 in the United States. Other Union ports including Biloxi and Natchez grew to take up the slack, although Royal navy ships continued harassing slave ships in the Mississippi Sound. In 1814 the Second German Coast Uprising, a slave revolt that spread along the River Road into and out of the territory, saw 95 slave owners and their families killed. British Army regulars and Louisiana militia suppressed the revolt. Today the British Museum operates a museum at the Beauregard House in Chalmette dedicated to the history of slavery in the territory. Slavery was finally abolished in Orleans & Saint Bernard in 1833. The uprising and eventual abolition prompted emigration of many former slaveholding families to the United States. Until the abolition of slavery in the United States in 1881 Orleans and Saint Bernard was a popular destination for fugitive slaves along the Underground Railroad, forming the southern terminus of a network that helped slaves escape to either the Commonwealth of American States, Indiana, or Orleans & Saint Bernard.
In 1856, in the aftermath of the War of Northern Secession, the United Kingdom pressured the United States government, then in Washington, DC to sign a perpetual lease of Orleans and Saint Bernard parishes. Negotiations dragged on until the Royal navy threatened a blockade of all river commerce.
In 1860 the United States signed the Treaty of Mexico City which ceded Plaquemines parish to the United Kingdom, later anglicized to Persimmon Parish. The treaty further accepted British demands to open more ports, allow free navigation of the Mississippi River, fixed the border between Indiana and the United States at the Ohio and Missouri rivers, and granted permanent sovereignty of New Orleans to Great Britain.
After the Treaty of Mexico City, the territory was reorganized from the Free City of New Orleans to the Crown Colony of Orleans & Saint Bernard.
GOVERNMENT
Divided into three parishes, Orleans & Saint Bernard is a self-governing parliamentary democracy with a bicameral parliament located in the capital of New Orleans. Although a home-rule charter was adopted in 1954, the territory has a premier who is head of government and is formally appointed by the governor, who is nominated by the British government as the representative of the King. The United Kingdom is responsible for foreign affairs and defence. The Port of New Orleans is an important naval base for the United Kingdom.
POPULATION
With a population of 451,276 Orleans & Saint Bernard is the most populous British Overseas Territory. The population is diverse and multicultural, a reflection of the long history of the territory and its role as an important gateway to North America and the Caribbean. In 2020 the population was 53% Black, 31% White, 9% multiracial, 4% indigenous, and 4% other races.
CITIZENSHIP
Persons born in Orleans and Saint Bernard are automatically British citizens at birth, but are also entitled to Union citizenship. They are not automatically Union citizens unless they apply for a Union passport. Until the passage of the 17th Amendment in 1991, non-white Orleanians were not eligible to claim Union citizenship.
FOREIGN AFFAIRS
As a British overseas territory, Orleans and Saint Bernard do not have a seat in the League of Nations, it is represented by Britain in matters of foreign affairs. To promote its economic interests and to safeguard the rights of its citizens abroad, Orleans and Saint Bernard maintain representative offices in London, Hartford, Charleston, Prophetstown, and Mexico City.
While the United States continues to view both New Orleans and the Commonwealth as “unredeemed territories,” there has been no serious military threat to the independence of Orleans and Saint Bernard since the end of military rule in the United States in 1979. In 2014 a referendum was held on the future of the territory. Orleanians were presented three options: independence, reunion with America, or continuation as a British Overseas Territory. 65.41% of voters elected to remain a part of the British Overseas Territory. Independence earned 32.5% of the vote, while reunification with the United states earned only 2.02% of the vote.
FLAG
The flag of the British Overseas Territory of Orleans & Saint Bernard is a blue ensign first adopted on July 14, 1911. The Union Jack is in the upper left hand corner, and a Pelican, with its head turned to the left, in a nest with three young, in the bottom right. The three chicks represent Orleans, St. Bernard, and Persimmon parishes.
Wait, what? How’s Indiana randomly British?
The PoD for this timeline is an overwhelming British and Indigenous victory in the War of 1812. Tecumsheh doesn’t die at the battle of the Thames and his dream of a western Native confederacy come to fruition, although with the caveat that it is a client state of Great Britain.
Eventually earning Dominion Status alongside Canada, Australia, South Africa, Ireland, India, and New Zealand, Indiana is a bulwark of Native sovereignty. There is still a trail of tears, but this time the expulsions are to the upper Midwest. Without the genocidal manifest destiny, the population of Native, Aboriginal, or First Nations (NAFN - the preferred term in this world), is in the millions.
The Dominion of Indiana also prevents westward expansion, bringing the slavery question to a head sooner. Without the free states of Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, and Minnesota, the balance of power shifts starkly toward the slave powers. When Kansas, the last opportunity for free staters to move out of their New England bubble, is admitted as a slave state, the North secedes, forming the Commonwealth of American States.
Nice!
I was wondering why the US would continue to divert the Mississippi to New Orleans and this comment explains why the Great Raft wasn’t even cleared in the first place, so the river never ended up being diverted to the Atchafalaya.
I’m not familiar with the Great Raft, can you please tell me more?
Without a strong USA, what are the fate of Alaska and Hawaii?🤔
It's a very multipolar continent:
The Kingdom of Hawaii is independent in this timeline. The official church is LDS.
Aleyska is a White Russian Taiwan analogue ruled by a cadet branch of the Romanovs after the successful revolution of 1905.
Haiti is still the only successful freed slave state in the world, however they were successfully able to play the British and French off of one another to avoid gunboat diplomacy.
Santo Domingo, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and the Bahamas are all independent.
The Empire of Mexico is the undisputed superpower of the Western hemisphere.
The United States of America (Union) is a regional power but with no overseas possessions besides Cuba.
The Commonwealth of American States (Commonwealth) is smaller and more inward focusing, but is heavily oriented around defending itself from southern aggression.
The Dominion of Canada is much smalller, encompassing roughly the 1867 confederation borders plus Newfoundland, PEI, and part of Maine that was seized in the war of 1812.
The Dominion of Indiana is the largest landlocked country in the world, stretching from the Rocky Mountains to Lake Erie.
Rupert's Land (also known as Borealia), is an unorganized British Territory governed directly from Westminster.
Deseret is a theodemocracy centered on the Willamette River Valley north of Mexico and west of the Rockies stretching up into the Cascadia region.
Thanks I hate it
Probably one of my favorite posts here now!!
I do not support this
What if Hong Kong were in Louisiana