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Heirs to the Kingdom of Navarre

MAGolding

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So who should be the monarch of Navarre, a kingdom that usually corresponded roughly to the lands of the Basque people, assuming that Navarre hypothetically becomes a kingdom again and that the monarch of Navarre should be a different person than the monarchs or pretenders (claimants) to the thrones of France and Spain?

Louis XVI was king of France and Navarre from 10 May 1774 to 4 September 1991, when his title was changed to King of the French during the French Revolution. The French revolutionary government annexed Navarre to France, which is a strong reason why a hypothetical future Kingdom of Navarre wouldn't want their monarch to be the same person as the monarch or pretender of France or Spain.

Louis XVI was dethroned on 21 September 1792, and guillotined 21 January 1793.

The Royalists in exile proclaimed his (second but oldest surviving) son King Louis XVII, but he died in prison 8 June 1795. Louis XVI's daughter Marie Therese Charlotte (19 December 1778-19 October 1851) who became the rightful queen of Navarre but not France on 8 June 1795. Marie Therese Charlotte married her first cousin Louis Antoine (1775-1844) the eldest son of King Charles X of France and Navarre, but didn't have any children.

The next heirs were the descendants of the siblings of Luis XVI. All of the children of his father, the Dauphin Louis (1729-1765), either died as children or married but were childless, except that Louis XVI had four children who died childless and King Charles X (1757-1836) had four children.

King Charles X (1757-1836) had two sons who married and two daughters who died young. Louis Antoine (1775-1844) was childless, but Charles Ferdinand, Duke of Berry (1778-1820) had a posthumous son, Henry, Duke of Bordeaux and Count of Chambord (1820-1883).

When the Count of Chambord died childless, the claim to the throne of France passed to his closest male relative of legitimate birth, King Alfonso XII of Spain, whose ancestors had renounced their claim to France however, or to Prince Phillipe, Count of Paris, of the Orleans branch of the family. Today the pretenders to the French throne are their descendants, Louis, Duke of Anjou, and Henri, Count of Paris.

The French throne passes by male only, or agnatic, primogeniture. But the Bourbons inherited the throne of Navarre through male preference primogeniture which allows inheritance by and through females. The Count of Chambord had a married sister.

Thus the succession would be:

1) Louis XVI, King Louis V of Navarre.
2) Louis XVII (1785-1795), son, King Louis VI of Navarre. Childless.
3) Marie Therese Charlotte (1778-1851) sister, married but childless.
4) Henry Count of Chambord (1820-1883), first cousin, childless. Claimant of the throne of France.
[Louise Marie Therese d'Artois (1819-1864), sister. Married Duke Charles III of Parma]
5) Robert I (1848-1907) Duke of Parma 1854-1859, son, nephew of number 4.
6) Henry (1873-1939), oldest son, pretender to the throne of Parma, childless.
7) Joseph (1875-1950), brother, pretender to the throne of Parma, childless.
8) Elias (1880-1959), brother, pretender to the throne of Parma.
9) Robert Hugo (1909-1974), only surviving son, childless. After his death the claim to the throne of Parma passed to his uncle Xavier (1889-1977), but the claim to Navarre passed to his sisters.
10) Princess Elizabeth (1904-1983), oldest sister. Unmarried.
11) Princess Maria Francesca (1906-1994), oldest surviving sister. Unmarried.
12) Princess Alicia (30 November 1917-3 February 2017), oldest surviving sister. Married Alfonso, Duke of Calabria (1901-1964).
[Carlos, Duke of Calabria (1938-2015), son. Claimant of the Two Sicilies.]
13) Pedro, Duke of Calbria (born 1968), son, grandson of number 12. claimant of the Two Sicilies. One of the co-heirs of King John Balliol, and thus of the early kings of Scotland and the Anglo-Saxon kings of England.

As said above, Dauphin Louis of France (1729-1765) had 13 children, but only two, Louis XVI and Charles X, had children.

Dauphin Louis's father, King Louis XV of France (1710-1774), had ten children, but only Dauphin Louis and his oldest sister Louise Elizabeth (1727-1759) had children. Perhaps some persons might want to consider her descendants alternate claimants to the throne of Navarre.

1) Louise Elizabeth (1727-1759) married Philip Duke of Parma.
2) Ferdinand (1751-1802), son, Duke of Parma 1765-1801.
3) Louis I (1773-1803), King of Etruria 1801-1803, Son.
4) Charles Louis (1799-1803), son. King Louis II of Etruria 1803-1807, Duke Charles I of Lucca 1824-1847, Duke Charles II of Parma 1847-1849.
5) Charles III (1823-1854), son, Duke of Parma 1849-1854. Married Louise Marie Therese d'Artois (1819-1864).
6) Duke Robert I (1848-1907), son Duke of Parma 1854-1859. number 5 in the previous list.
7) Henry (1873-1939), oldest son, pretender to the throne of Parma, childless.
8) Joseph (1875-1950), brother, pretender to the throne of Parma, childless.
9) Elias (1880-1959), brother, pretender to the throne of Parma.
10) Robert Hugo (1909-1974), only surviving son, childless. After his death the claim to the throne of Parma passed to his uncle Xavier (1889-1977), but the claim to Navarre passed to his sisters.
11) Princess Elizabeth (1904-1983), oldest sister. Unmarried.
12) Princess Maria Francesca (1906-1994), oldest surviving sister. Unmarried.
13) Princess Alicia (30 November 1917-3 February 2017), oldest surviving sister. Married Alfonso, Duke of Calabria (1901-1964).
[Carlos, Duke of Calabria (1938-2015), son. Claimant of the Two Sicilies.]
14) Pedro, Duke of Calbria (born 1968), son, grandson of number 12. claimant of the Two Sicilies. One of the co-heirs of King John Balliol, and thus of the early kings of Scotland and the Anglo-Saxon kings of England.

Louis XV's father, Louis Duke of burgundy and Dauphin (1682-1712) had three children and only Louis XV had children.

Louis the Duke of Burgundy's father, Louis Dauphin of France (1661-1711) had three children and two of his sons had children. The genealogical heir of the younger son, King Philip V of Spain, is louis, Duke of Anjou, legitiimist pretender to the throne of France.

The father of Louis Dauphin of France (1661-1711), King Louis XIV (1638-1715), had only one legitimate child who had children, Louis Dauphin of France.

The father of King Louis XIV (1638-1715), King Louis XIII (1601-1643), had only two legitimate children, both sons, who had children. Although I have said that the French revolution merged Navarre into France, some sources say that King Louis XIII's government merged Navarre into France in 1620, thus making Navarre a merely titular kingdom from then on. Thus some people might claim that no descendant of Louis XIII could be the rightful king of Navarre. The heir general of the younger son Philippe I, Duke of Orleans (1640-1701), is Duke Franz of Bavaria, the Jacobite pretender to the thrones of England, Scotland, Ireland, and France.

The father of King Louis XIII (1601-1643) was Henry of Bourbon (1553-1610), King Henry III of Navarre from 1572 to 1610, and King Henry IV of France from 1589 to 1610. Henry had two sons.

The younger son, Gaston Duke of Orleans (1608-1660) had daughters who married but their descendants died out in a few generations.

Gaston's eldest daughter Anne Marie Louise d'Orleans (1627-1693), Duchess of Montpensier, never married.

The next daughter, Margaret Louise (1645-1721) married Cosimo III de' Medici, Grand Duke of Tuscany. Her three children married but had no children. Her daughter Anna Marria Louisa (1667-1743) was the last descendant of Gaston of Orleans.

The Next daughter, Elisabeth Marguerite (1646-1696) married the Duke of Guise and had a son who died in 1675 age 5.

The next daughter, Francois Madeline (1648-1664) married but died childless.

Other possible claimants of Navarre will be considered in another post.
 
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MAGolding

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Correction to the above: the heir general of Philippe I (1640-1701), Duke of Orleans, is Margherita of Savoy-Aosta (born 1930), dowager Achduchess of Austria, and the mother of Prince Lorenz of Belgium. Duke Franz of Bavaria is merely the heir of the first marriage of Duke Philippe I of Orelans.

So the descendants of King Louis XIII of France and Navarre and his younger brother Gaston, Duke of Orleans, have been checked for possible alternate heirs to the Kingdom of Navarre.

The youngest sister of Louis XIII and Gaston was Henrietta Maria (1609-1669) who married King Charles I of England, Scotland, Ireland, and France. Her sons were King Charles II, who had no legitimate children, and King James II whose legitimate descendants died out in 1807. Their only sister with descendants to the present day was Henrietta (1644-1670) who married Philippe I, Duke of Orleans (1640-1701) as his first wife; her heir is Franz, Duke of Bavaria, and the Jacobite pretender to the thrones of England, Scotland, Ireland, and France.

The next oldest sister of of Louis XIII and Gaston was Christine Marie (1606-1663) who married Duke Victor Amadeus of Savoy. Their heir is Duke Franz of Bavaria
 
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johnincornwall

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Your post is only looking at modern history. The kingdom of Navarra (Pamplona) had it's hey day under Sancho III El Mayor just after the milennium. At the time Navarra was the most powerful of the Christian states, not that such a thing was much to write home about in 1004. Also holding sway over Gascony.

Sancho's heirs heave the rights surely? Good look with HIS family tree!
 

MAGolding

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Your post is only looking at modern history. The kingdom of Navarra (Pamplona) had it's hey day under Sancho III El Mayor just after the milennium. At the time Navarra was the most powerful of the Christian states, not that such a thing was much to write home about in 1004. Also holding sway over Gascony.

Sancho's heirs heave the rights surely? Good look with HIS family tree!
Well, I'll work on something a little easier before going back that far.

Queen Joan I (1273-1305) of Navarre married King Philip IV (1268-1314) of France. By 1314 the leading members of the younger generation of the French-Navarrese royal family included Philip's three sons, Louis (1289-1316), Philip (1292/93-1322), and Charles (1294-1328), and their first cousin Philip of Valois (1293-1350), Philip IV's nephew. Those four young men were married to two pairs of sisters.

Louis's wife was Margaret (1290-1315), daughter of Duke Robert II of Burgundy, Philip's wife was Joan (1292/98-1330), Countess of Burgundy, Charles's wife was Blanche (1296/97-1325/26), sister of Countess Joan of burgundy, and Philip of Valois's wife was Joan (1293-1348), daughter of Robert of Burgundy and sister of Margaret.

In the Tour de Nesle affair of 1314, Queen Isabel, sister of Louis, Philip, and Charles, and wife of King Edward II of England, accused Margaret, Blanche, and maybe Joan of adultery. Margaret and Blanche were sentenced to life imprisonment, and Margaret was probably murdered so Louis could marry again. Joan was eventually found innocent, but doubts lingered about the legitimacy of her children also.

King Louis X died in 1316, his posthumous son John I lived only 5 days, Philip became King Philip V but died having only daughters in 1322, Charles became King Charles IV and died having only daughters in 1328, and Philip of Valois became King Philip VI of France in 1328.

Those successions established the precedent that the French throne could pass only through males and only to males. The throne of Navarre could pass to and through females, so Joan (1312-1349), daughter of Louis X and Margaret, became Queen Joan II of Navarre, despite the doubts about her paternity and thus descent from previous rulers of Navarre.

So at this time there were five families that could make claims to the thrones of France and/or Navarre.

1) Joan II (1312-1349), eventual Queen of Navarre, daughter of King Louis X of France and Navarre (died 1316), claim by seniority in male preference primogeniture but marred by suspicions she was the child of adultery.

2) Joan of France (1308-1349), Countess of Burgundy and Artois in her own right, wife of Duke Odo IV of Burgundy, and her children and her sisters and their children, daughters of King Philip V. Their claim to Navarre was as the senior heirs by male preference primogeniture who were not suspected of illegitimacy as much as Joan II since their mother Joan of Burgundy had been acquitted of adultery but marred by still being suspected since their mother had been accused of adultery. Their father Philip V claimed on 2 February 1317 that women (and girls) could not inherit the throne of France. His only son Philip promptly died on 24 February 1317. Joan of France and her sisters and their descendants were thus disinherited in the eyes of those who accepted their father's claim of male only succession.

3) Jeanne (May 1326 – January 1327), Marie (1327 – 6 October 1341) and Blanche (1 April 1328 – 8 February 1382), daughters of King Charles IV of France and Navarre by his third wife Jeanne d'Evreux. Their claim to Navarre would be that although their older half siblings (who died before their father anyway) had been suspected of being illegitimate, they were the senior line by male preference primogeniture that was not suspected of being illegitimate. Blanche married the Duke of Orleans but had no children.

4) Isabella (1295-1358) daughter of King Philip IV, sister of Kings Louis X, Philip V, and Charles IV, Queen of England, and her older son King Edward III of England (1312-1377). After the death of John I in 1316, only her brothers Philip V (died 1322) and Charles IV (died 1328) stood ahead of her as heirs of unchallenged legitimacy and paternity to Navarre until Charles IV finally had children of unchallenged legitimacy and patrnity in 1326. Isabella could still have claimed the throne of Navarre for her son Edward III on the grounds that the kingship could be inherited through a female of unchallenged legitimacy but not by a female, a claim valid until any of the daughters of Charles IV had sons.

Of course if doubts about the legitimacy and paternity of the daughters of Louis X, Philip V, and Charles IV were not considered sufficient to disbar them from the throne of Navarre, there would have been more lives between Isabella and the throne of Navarre.

And there was a fifth family with claims to the throne of France, but not to the throne of Navarre.

Philip VI (1293-1350), son of Count Charles "of the Hat" of Valois (1270-1325). Charles got his nickname because of his unsuccessful attempts to gain crowns. Philip may have inherited that desire for kingdoms.

The heirs of family # 1:

1) Joan II (1312-1349) and King Philip III (1306-1343) Count of Evreux, her husband.
2) Charles II (1332-1387) the Bad. Son.
3) Charles III (1361-1425) The Noble. Son. No surviving sons.
4) Blanche I (1387-1441) daughter and John II of Aragon (1398-20 January 1479) her husband.
5) Charles (IV) of Viana (1421-1461) Son. Kept from the throne by his father. No legitimate children.
6) Blanche II (1424-1464) Sister. Kept from the throne by her father. Unmarried.
7) Eleanor (1426-12 February 1479) Sister. Suspected of poisoning Blanche II. Queen for 2 weeks.
8) Francis Phoebus (1469?-1483) Grandson, son of Gaston (1444-1470), Prince of Viana. Unmarried.
9) Catharine I (1468-1518) sister, and King John III (1469-1516) of Albret, her husband
10) King Henry II (1503-1555) Son.
11) Queen Joan III (1528-1572) Daughter, and King Antoine (1518-1562), of bourbon, Duke of vendome, her husband.
12) King Henry III (1553-1610), King Henry IV of France. Son.
13) King Louis II & XIII of Navarre and France (1601-1643). Son.
In 1620 Louis decreed that Navarre and France should remain under a common king forever, which the succession laws of one Kingdom or the other, or both, would have to be changed to accomplish.
14) Louis XIV (1638-1715) King of France and Navarre. Son.
15) Louis XV (1710-1774) King of France & Navarre. Great Grandson, son of Louis (1682-1712), Duke of Burgundy, son of Louis, (1661-1711), Grand Dauphin of France.
16) Louis XVI (1754-1793) Grandson, son of Dauphin Louis (1729-1765).
17) Louis XVII (1785-1795). Son. Childless.
18) Marie Therese (17-1851), Duchess of Angouleme. Sister. Childless.
19) Henri (1820-1883), Count of Chambord. First Cousin Once Removed. Childless.
20) Robert I (1848-1907) Duke of Parma. Nephew.
21) Henry (1873-1939), claimant of Parma. Son. Childless.
22) Joseph (1875-1950), claimant of Parma. Brother. Childless.
23) Elias (1880-1959), claimant of Parma. Brother.
24) Robert Hugo (1909-1974), claimant of Parma. Son. Childless.
25) Princess Elisabetta (1904-1983) of Parma. Sister. Unmarried.
26) Princess Maria Francesca (1906-1994) of Parma. Sister. Unmarried.
27) Infanta Alica (1917-2017) of Spain, Dowager Duchess of Calabria. Sister.
28) Pedro Duke of Calabria (born 16 October 1968), grandson.

Pedro's name has come up on earlier posts in this thread.

The line of descent from the second family:

1) Joan (1308-1349) Oldest child and daughter. Hereditary Countess of Burgundy and Artois. Married Duke Odo IV of Burgundy (1295-1349)
2) Philip of Rouvres (1346-1361) Count and Duke of the Burgundies. Grandson, son of Philip (1323-1346). Childless and without surviving siblings, uncles, or aunts.
3) Margaret I (1310-1382) Countess of Burgundy & Artois. Great aunt of Philip of Rouvres, sister of Joan. Married Louis I (c. 1304-1346) Count of Flanders, Nevers, and Rethel.
4) Louis Ii of Male (1330-1384) Count of Flanders, Nevers, Rethel, Artois, and Burgundy. Only child.
5) Margaret II (1350-1405) Countess of of Flanders, Nevers, Rethel, Artois, and Burgundy. Daughter. Married first 2) Philip of Rouvres, married second Duke Philip II the Bold of Burgundy, etc.
6) John the Fearless (1371-1419) Duke of Burgundy, etc. Son.
7) Philip (1396-1467) Duke of Burgundy, etc. Son.
8) Charles the Bold (1433-1477) Duke of Burgundy, etc. Son.
9) Mary (1457-1482) duchess of burgundy, etc. Daughter. Married Emperor Maximilian I.
10) Philip the Handsome (1478-1506) King consort of Spain, Duke of burgundy, etc. Son.
11) Emperor Charles V (1550-1558) Son.
12) King Philip II of the Spains (1527-1598) Son.
13) King Philip III of the Spains (1527-1598) Son.
14) King Philip IV of the Spains (1527-1598) Son.
15) King Charles II of the Spains (1527-1700) Son. Childless. Then came the War of the Spanish Succession.
16) Louis, (1661-1711), Grand Dauphin of France. Half Nephew.
17) Louis (1682-18 February 1712), Duke of burgundy. Son.
18) Louis (1707-8 March 1712) Duke of Brittany. Son. Childless.
19) Louis XV (1710-1774) King of France. Brother.
20) Louis XVI (1754-1793) Grandson, son of Dauphin Louis (1729-1765).
21) Louis XVII (1785-1795). Son. Childless.
22) Marie Therese (17-1851), Duchess of Anglouleme. Sister. Childless.
23) Henri (1820-1883), Count of Chambord. First Cousin Once Removed. Childless.
24) Robert I (1848-1907) Duke of Parma. Nephew.
25) Henry (1873-1939), claimant of Parma. Son. Childless.
26) Joseph (1875-1950), claimant of Parma. Brother. Childless.
27) Elias (1880-1959), claimant of Parma. Brother.
28) Robert Hugo (1909-1974), claimant of Parma. Son. Childless.
29) Princess Elisabetta (1904-1983) of Parma. Sister. Unmarried.
30) Princess Maria Francesca (1906-1994) of Parma. Sister. Unmarried.
31) Infanta Alica (1917-2017) of Spain, Dowager Duchess of Calabria. Sister.
32) Pedro Duke of Calabria (born 16 October 1968), grandson.

And he shows up yet again.

The line of succession for family number three:

1) Marie (1327-6 October 1341) Second and oldest surviving daughter of third marriage.
2) Blanche of France (1328-1382) Sister. Married 1345 Philip duke of Orleans (1336-1375). Childless.
3) Richard II, King of England (1367-1399). Cousin. Line Number Three becomes combined with Line Number Four.

The line of succession for family number four:

1) Queen Isabella (1295-1358), wife of King Edward II of England (1284-1327).
2) King Edward III of England (1312-1377) Son. Claimed French throne 1328, 1340, 1369.
3) King Richard II of England (1367-1399) Grandson, son of Prince Edward (1330-1376). Succeeded as heir of line number three in 1382.
4) Edmund Mortimer (1391-1425) Earl of March. Cousin and heir presumptive. Son of Roger Mortimer (1374-1398) Earl of March, son of Philippa (1355-1382) daughter of Lionel Duke of Clarence (1338-1368) son of King Edward III. Childless.
5) Richard Duke of York (1411-1460) Nephew, sister's son.
6) King Edward IV. (1442-1483) Son.
7) King Edward V. (1470-1483?) Son.
Richard Duke of York (1473-1483?) if he survived his brother.
8) Elizabeth (1466-1503) Sister. Married King Henry VII.
9) King Henry VIII (1491-1547) Son.
10) King Edward VI. (1537-1553) Son. Childless.
11) Queen Mary I (1516-1558) Half sister. Childless.
12) Queen Elizabeth I (1533-1603) Half sister. Childless.
13) King James VI (1567-1625) of Scotland I of England. Cousin. Son of Queen Mary of Scotland (1542-1587) daughter of King James V (1512-1542), son of Margaret (1489-1541) daughter of Elizabeth (number 8).
14) King Charles I (1600-1649) Son.
15) King Charles II (1630-1685) Son. No surviving legitimate children.
16) King James VII & II (1633-1701) Brother. Deposed 1688
17) James VIII & III (1688-1766) Son.
18) Charles Edward Stuart (1720-1788) Charles III. Son. Without legitimate children.
19) Henry Benedict Stuart (1725-1807) Henry IX & I. Brother. Unmarried.
20) King Charles Emmanuel IV of Sardinia (1751-1819) Cousin. Son of Victor Amadeus III (1726-1796) Son of Charles Emmanuel III (1701-1773) son of Anne Marie d'Orleans (1669-1728) daughter of Henrietta of England (1644-1670) daughter of King Charles I (number 14).
21) Victor Emmanuel I (1759-1824). King of Sardinia. Brother.
22) Maria Beatrice (1792-1840). Daughter of Victor Emmanuel I. Jacobite Heiress.
23) Francis V (1819-1875) Duke of Modena. Son. Jacobite Heir. No surviving children.
24) Queen Maria Teresa of Bavaria (1849-1919) Niece. Jacobite Heiress.
25) Crown Prince Rupprecht of Bavaria (1869-1955). Son. Jacobite Heir.
26) Albrecht (1905-1996), Duke of Bavaria. Son. Jacobite Heir.
27) Franz (born 1933), Duke of Bavaria. Son. Jacobite Heir. Childless.

Franz's heir is his brother, Max (born 1937) duke in Bavaria. After Max the heir to Bavaria by agnatic succession law is their cousin Luitpold. But after Max the Jacobite heiress will be his oldest daughter Sophie (born 1967) and then her oldest son Prince Joseph Wenzel (born 1995), second in line for the throne of Lichtenstein.

See post number 14 here:

http://historum.com/medieval-byzantine-history/121828-navarre-succession-crises-1316-1322-1328-a-2.html

Family number five, the family of King Philip VI, had no descent from Queen Joan I of Navarre and no claim to the throne of Navarre. Since Philip VI gained the throne of France through male only, or agnatic, primogeniture, the list of his heirs was basically the following kings of France until the end of the monarchy.

At the present time the pretenders (claimants) to the French throne are Louis, Duke of Anjou (legitimist), and Henry, Count of Paris (Orleanist).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_pretenders#Europe

And just for fun I will note that Philip VI's heir general is Prince Charles-Antoine Lamoral of Ligne-La Tremoille (born 1946). See post # 19 here:

http://historum.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2610031

Next I will search for possible alternate successions between Joan II of Navarre and King Louis XIV of France.
 

johnincornwall

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I quite like Carlos el Malo. Got involved in French affairs in the Hundred Years War and died a really horrific end, as befitted his life.
 
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Well, maybe I should be a pretender to the throne of Navarre. Sancho whatever level is in my tree. I'd have to look it up, but I'm too lazy at the moment. Anyway, it has to do with a connection to the daughter of Henry II on the one hand, and a separate connection back from England on the other.
 

MAGolding

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Well, maybe I should be a pretender to the throne of Navarre. Sancho whatever level is in my tree. I'd have to look it up, but I'm too lazy at the moment. Anyway, it has to do with a connection to the daughter of Henry II on the one hand, and a separate connection back from England on the other.
Well, not if you have an older brother, or if your father has an older brother, etc. etc. who might have a superior claim.

Inigo Arista, first King of Pamplona (which later became the Kingdom of Navarre) supposedly lived about 790 to 851 or 852. So he wasn't as old as Charlemagne (742-814), "the father of Europe", but closer to the age of Lothair I, one of the elder grandsons of Charlemagne. Inigo Arista probably has almost as many known and unknown descendants as Charlemagne, countless thousands or millions.

And if everything had gone as well as Inigo Arista hoped, there would still be a Kingdom of Pamplona or Navarre or Basqueland, and the oldest son of the oldest son of the oldest son and so on back to Inigo Arista's oldest son, would be the present king of Navarre, one person out of all the millions descended from Inigo Arista.
 

MAGolding

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So Queen Joan II (1312-1349) became Queen of Navarre in 1328, despite doubts that she was really the daughter of King Louis X, and married King Philip III of Navarre, king by virtue of marriage to her.

Their oldest son was King Charles II "The Bad" of Navarre. But there may be alternate lines of descent from Joan II and Philip III.

1) Queen Joan II and King Philip III of Navarre.
2) Louis (d. 1372) younger son. Count of Beaumont-Le-Roger 1365.
3) Charles (1361?-1432/33), son. Count of Beaumont-Le-Roger.
NAVARRE KINGS
4) Louis I de Beaumont (d. 1462) son. First Count of Lerin 1424 & Constable of Navarre 1432.
5) Louis II de Beaumont (1460-1508) son. 2nd Count of Lerin & Constable of Navarre.
6) Louis III de Beaumont (d. 1530) son. 3rd Count of Lerin & Constable of Navarre.
7) Louis IV de Beaumont (1504-1569) son. Fourth Count of Lerin & Constable of Navarre.
8) Brianda de Beaumont (1540-1588) daughter, 5th Countess of Lerin & Constable of Navarre. Married Diego Alvarez de Toledo (1541-1583), 2nd son of the Third Duke of Alba.
NAVARRE NOBILITY
9) Antonio Alvarez de Toledo Y Beaumont (1568-1639), son, 5th Duke of Alba, Count of Lerin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_%C3%81lvarez_de_Toledo,_5th_Duke_of_Alba
10) Fernando Alvarez de Toledo (1595-1667) son, 6th Duke of Alba, Count of Lerin.
11) Antonio Alvarez de Toledo, son, 7th Duke of Alba.
12) Francisco Alvarez de Toledo, son, 10th Duke of Alba.
13) Maria Theresa Alvarez de Toledo, daughter, 11th Duchess of Alba. Married Manuel Jose de Silva, 10th Count of Galve.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_de_Silva,_12th_Duke_of_Alba
14) Fernando de Silva (1714-1776), son, 12th Duke of Alba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_de_Silva,_12th_Duke_of_Alba
[Franciso da Silva (1733-1770), son, Duke of Huescar].
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_de_Silva,_10th_Duke_of_Hu%C3%A9scar
15) Maria del Pilar de Silva (1762-1802), 13th Duchess of Alba. Married but childless.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C3%ADa_Cayetana_de_Silva,_13th_Duchess_of_Alba
[Maris Theresa de Silva, daughter of number 13, sister of # 14. Marred James Fitz-James Stuart, 3rd Duke of Berwick.]
[Carlos Fitz-James Stuart, son, 4th Duke of Berwick.]
[Jacobo Fitz-James Stuart, son, 5th Duke of Berwick]
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Miguel_Fitz-James_Stuart,_14th_Duke_of_Alba 5rd Duke of Berwick.]
16) Carlos Fitz-James Stuart (1794-1835), great great grandson of number 13, cousin of number 15, 7th Duke of Berwick, 14th Duke of Alba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Miguel_Fitz-James_Stuart,_14th_Duke_of_Alba
17) Jacobo Fitz-James Stuart (1821-1881), son, 15th Duke of Alba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobo_Fitz-James_Stuart,_15th_Duke_of_Alba
18) Carlos Maria Fitz-James Stuart (1849-1901), son, 16th Duke of Alba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Mar%C3%ADa_Fitz-James_Stuart,_16th_Duke_of_Alba
19) Jacobo Fitz-James Stuart (1878-1953), son, 17th Duke of Alba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobo_Fitz-James_Stuart,_17th_Duke_of_Alba
20) Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart (1926-2014), daughter, 18th Duchess of Alba, 20th Countess of Lerin. Married Don Louis de Irujo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayetana_Fitz-James_Stuart,_18th_Duchess_of_Alba
21) Carlos Fitz-James Stuart (b. 2 Octobrr 1948), son, 19th Duke of Alba, 21st Count of Lerin, Constable of Navarre.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Fitz-James_Stuart,_19th_Duke_of_Alba

So this could be an alternate line of succession to a hypothetical future dynasty of Navarre if it is desired not to trace the descent through Spanish or French monarchs of Navarre who disrespected the sovereignty of Navarre.

But I have to wonder what happened to the 8th and 9th dukes of Alba. Did they have any descendants? Were they older brothers of the 10th Duke? This page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Hu%C3%A9scar

says the 8th Duke was the son of the 7th duke, the 9th duke was the son of the 8th duke, and the 10th duke was the second son of the 8th duke, which contradicts the ancestor chart of the 10th duke which says he was a son of the 7th duke.
 
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King Charles II "The Bad" of Navarre was succeeded by his son King Charles III of Navarre. But Charles II had a younger daughter Joan (1370-1437) who married John V (1339/40-1399) Duke of Brittany.

1) King Charles II of Navarre.
2) Joan (1370-1437), younger daughter, who married John V (1339/40-1399) Duke of Brittany.
NAVARRE KINGS
3) Peter (1389-1442), oldest son, became Duke John VI of Brittany.
4) Duke Francis I (1414-1450) of Brittany, oldest son.
5) Marguerite (1443?-1469), older daughter, married Duke Francis II of Brittany. No surviving children.
6) Mary (1444?-1506/11), younger sister, married John II (1452-1516), Viscount of Rohan.
BRITTANY - DUKES
7) Jacques of Rohan (d. 1537) older son, Viscount of Rohan.
8) Claude of Rohan (d. 1540) Bishop of Cornouailles, Viscount of Rohan, brother, unmarried.
9) Anne de Rohan, sister, heiress of Rohan. Marred Peter de Rohan, Lord of Frontenay, died 1525.
BRITTANY - NANTES, PORHOET, RENNES
10) Rene I of Rohan (d. 1552) son. Viscount of Rohan.
11) Henry I (d. 1575) of Rohan, oldest son, Viscount of Rohan.
12) John of Rohan, younger brother, childless.
13) Rene II of Rohan (d.1586) brother, Viscount of Rohan.
14) Henry II of Rohan (1579-1638), son, First Duke of Rohan.
15) Marguerite of Rohan (1617-1684), Daughter, Duchess of Rohan. Married Henry Chabot, Lord of Saint-Aulaye, created Duke of Rohan 1648.
BRITTANY - NANTES, PORHOET, RENNES
16) Louis de Rohan-Chabot (1652-1727), son, Duke of Rohan.
17) Louis Bretagne Alain de Rohan-Chabot (1679-1738), son, Duke of Rohan.
18) Louis Marie de Rohan-Chabot (1710-1791), son, Duke of Rohan.
19) Louis Antoine de Rohan-Chabot (1733-1807), nephew, Duke of Rohan.
20) Alexandre de Rohan-Chabot (1761-1816), son, Duke of Rohan.
21) Louis Francois de Rohan-Chabot (1788-1833), older son, Duke of Rohan. Childless.
22) Fernand de Rohan-Chabot (1789-1869), younger brother, Duke of Rohan.
23) Charles de Rohan-Chabot (1819-1893), son, Duke of Rohan.
24) Alain de Rohan-Chabot (1844-1914), son, Duke of Rohan.
25) Josselin de Rohan-Chabot (1879-1916), son, Duke of Rohan.
26) Alain Louis Auguste de Rohan-Chabot (1913-1966), son, Duke of Rohan.
27) Josselin de Rohan-Chabot (b. 1928), son, Duke of Rohan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Rohan

Wikipedia says of the present duke that:

He is the eldest descendant through a maternal line of Cerdic of Wessex, making him the top member of the House of Wessex.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josselin_de_Rohan

I'm not certain what they mean by that.