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Every once in a while Wooby brings up Breaking Bad and Skylar

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I also hate Skylar but can we all agree Lori from Walking Dead is so much worse. She starts fucking her husband's best friend a month after she thought he died. Her entire story is "oh no my actions have consequences"

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u/seancbo avatar

I've never seen Walking Dead, but Skyler is a great character with understandable actions the entire show and I'll fight anyone on this in real life, come to my house, we'll do it, you won't

u/DP_goatman avatar

Would you settle for a civil conversation cause she does a lot of stupid shit like mid season 4 through 5 she flipped between being walt's partner and against him like every other episode

u/seancbo avatar

I'd have to rewatch for specifics, but my recollection is that she a) was kept in the dark a lot and had to guess what was on and b) they were super unhappy in episode 1, way before the drug stuff and the risk of getting killed kept putting different strains on that. There's also the fact that she's pretty bought in later on, and I see it as her struggling with her own issues of both being pretty on his side, but knowing it's wrong and super dangerous. Like I said, I don't remember the specific flip flopping youre talking about

u/DP_goatman avatar

The biggest example was the conversation with hank

u/seancbo avatar

Wait, this one?

https://youtu.be/RX66mniSX1w?si=GpLvL-71-_c0PITg

This is an awesome scene!

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u/MarinLlwyd avatar

Her actions aren't agreeable, but they're understandable. She is hurt and upset and acts out. And they're in response to the actions of her lying murderer husband. Oh no, she cheated on her husband, who turned to a life of crime and brought violence into her life because he was too proud to let someone pay for his treatments.

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She tries to kick him out of the house they co-own because she thinks he’s selling weed.

Also smokes while pregnant.

There are better hills to die on, she’s a great character written to be highly unlikeable because of her irrational and selfish decisions.

u/seancbo avatar

I'll argue the first one, it wasn't just the supposed weed, he was clearly being extremely weird and evasive and keeping secrets, there was obviously more going on. It's my stupid hill, I'll die on it if I want to lmao.

I'll give you the smoking, that was fucked. But I agree with you overall, I think she makes irrational decisions that make sense given the character. I just think the charisma and POV of Bryan Cranston makes people get fucking crazy.

u/Fernis_ avatar

I pittyyour partner if you think an apropriate reaction, when your husband who got diagnosed with terminal cancer acts weird, evasive and out of normal self, is to kick them out of the house.

It's simple for us, the viewer, to justify Skyler, since we know what Walt was really doing. From her perspective he was her sick, loving husband, going trough a crisis after hearing a life sentence. 

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I'll have to watch the episode again, but I'm absolutely positive you're wrong about how it's presented.

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Why'd you get weirdly personal?

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u/MarinLlwyd avatar

It isn't about selling drugs. It is that he lied to her.

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we'll die together brother

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I fucked Ted

u/GoodGrables avatar

https://youtu.be/krQHQvtIr6w?si=3ZgS097YyQRBDFVX you reminded me of this match up vs. Still bangs.

u/ThatRuckingMoose avatar

People are more mad at Skylar for cheating than they are at Walt for being a literal murderer

u/the_beer-baron avatar

Multiple murders. And also poisoning a child.

u/DP_goatman avatar

No people hate that cause the reason for cheating is so fucking retarded

u/ThatRuckingMoose avatar

What makes you think that

u/Chimwizlet avatar

It's not even cheating, they were seperated at the time and the only reason they weren't already divorced is Walt wouldn't accept it, delaying the process.

She cheated on him partly to get back at Walt, but also to try and push hiim to finally accept that their marriage is over.

u/ThatRuckingMoose avatar

She was literally trapped in the situation by a psychopath murdering pin king.

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u/batt3ryac1d1 avatar

It's complex cause Skylers actions are shitty and irritating but Walt is obviously to blame for it all if he was a good person who was really worried about his family and not his stupid pride he'd have taken the pity job at white matter.

Hell if he swallowed his pride he would have married Gretchen and been one of the heads at white matter.

u/Chimwizlet avatar

Exactly, almost every irritating thing about Skyler (minus the 'happy birthday' song) is in direct response to Walt's behaviour.

If the audience only ever saw Walt from her pov they'd find her much more understandable, and Walt would be the irritating one.

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u/Cum_Cum_no_Mi avatar

Comic and show wise, I hated Lori, but I can't lie, Shane stepping up to take care of Carl in rick's place was legit a homie move, I like to think he had no intention of crossing that line, but it just happened. If I was Lori, I'd be devastated, but given the circumstances and situation, it'd be hard not to fall for the mf doing everything in his power to keep us safe. Skylar was madddd petty at times, but she put in the work to try and help walt, who like Shane, became so ego driven it only led to their demise. I think more of you try to judge rather than try and put yourself in their shoes. Both wanted safety fr.

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Run on sentences go brrrr

u/DP_goatman avatar

I mean the fucking shane wasn't the only thing it was also playing house wife in a zombie apocalypse while never watching your kid or shoving him to other people

u/Cum_Cum_no_Mi avatar

Agreed she should have been something more than a glorified squatter, but at the very least she never pitted Carl (Flynn) against Rick. I also can recall for the life of me what Lori did before the apocalypse, I know she was pregnant but I don't remember her being mentioned as having a job(unless teacher maybe??) but with that in mind, it's hard to expect someone used to being cared for to just switch into a valued contribution. Shorty only had that dawg in her while rick was gone lol

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I tell ya, the only time I ever want to shake Wubby is when he goes off on his anti-Skylar rants

Lori didn’t have internet though, so that month would’ve felt longer

No fucking way is Lori worse than Skylar what a dog water take. Luke warm at best. Both bad but Skylar by far is the worst.

u/DP_goatman avatar

lori literally tells andrea to stop doing a man's job

wasn't she doing that literally to piss off Andrea tho? cuz she saw Andrea cosying up to Shane? (which that has it's own issues, but it's a different reason than just "Aaaaaa sexism!")

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I’m watching breaking bad for the first time right now. On s3e7

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enjoy its a great show leave this comment section before you get spoiled

Thanks lol will do

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One character is well acted, the other is pointless. Yeah, Skylar is awful, and Anna Gunn does a great job portraying that. Lori, however, was basically set dressing.

The performance was so flat that she could have been replaced by a tennis ball on a stick that they forgot to CGI a character onto and most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference. All this being said, the Lori character in the comics is also just sort of a nothing addition to the story. I was looking forward to her meaningless death from the comics to be adapted into the show, but that early into the series it seemed that the show runners didn't want to have a sniper shoot her in the back while running away and then explode her newborn she was carrying at the time as the bullet exited Lori's abdomen.

They instead decided to give her death "meaning" by her mother having to survive long enough for the baby to be born, only for her son to be the one to put her down. I'm personally glad they didn't kill Judith (the baby), because her character was, to me, a good addition to the narrative, giving the extended Grimes family something to bond over and fight for.

Also, chat, even though the show fell the fuck off HARD, if you're a fan of the world itself, watch the spin-offs. World Beyond is the worst of the bunch, but introduces a lot of important world building that comes heavily into play in later spin-offs. I was never a huge fan of Daryl, but his show was fantastic, and has a much darker take on the world than the other series do. Dead City with Negan and Maggie has a very fun buddy cop feeling to it, and seeing what a city like New York, who thanks to their ability to close all the bridges leading in/out, live in their own weird bubble, is interesting. The Rick and Michonne show was straight up fan service. It has fun concepts, a great villain, and gives you a better look at some of the things set up by World Beyond, but unless you're a completionist like I am, skip it.

Anyway, no one asked, but there you have it.