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Update on free fantasia for 7.0 (and changes to how Fantasia works)
Just announced on the live stream. Yoshida had previously teased a possible free fantasia. They just told us how it will be distributed. There will be a low level quest (he did not say what level) in Ul'Dah that will give you a fantasia. This will go active with 7.0.
Also a neat change. You will have 60 minutes of gameplay (so if you log out, timer pauses) after using a fantasia to re-edit your character. This will give you a chance to take your new character to different environments in the game and really nail down if you like the look or not.
Important notes: You have unlimited edits during the 60 minutes. Editing during the 60 minutes does not reset the counter. The 60 minutes is time played, so the counter pauses when you log out.
Can you imagine if the timer kept going like food? Be uproar at launch
would still be an improvement over now. Just people would have to be midnful to set aside an hour for it
Well would be good honnestly, had to drink 3 fantasia once in less than 2 hours because a detail really bogged me... could have created a new character before to see it indeed but havn't thought of it
And then a DDoS hits and there's an uproar again? :')
Well would be good honnestly, had to drink 3 fantasia once in less than 2 hours because a detail really bogged me... could have created a new character before to see it indeed but havn't thought of it
Speaking of this, I've always thought it was weird that food buffs run while you're logged out.
While your choco companion timer stops when you're in a city or a cutscene.
Yeee, your buffs pause on ESO when you log, maybe its an attempt at adding a little gil sink into folk buying food? Dunno
BDO too
Even in FFXI buffs stop the timers when you log out if I remember correctly!
Knowing SE, there will be a server crash that keep people logged in.
Lol Lost Ark is like this
Does re editing count towards the minutes or are you considered logged out while re editing?
I think this is the important question. This would be far be the most time consuming issue. Especially for people who are indecisive lol.
There's an easy solution to that: do your re edits in creating a new character and save it so the only thing you do in your actual character is loading your edits
I already do this.
I forgot that was even a thing. Lol. Yeah that would work perfectly, as a workaround. Ideally they don't make it so that's our only option though, because it shouldn't be.
Not entirely sure. In the live letter, the implication seemed to be that editing would also count as part of playtime? But now that I review it, they might have just meant that you can't reset the timer back to 60 minutes each time you make an edit.
https://www.youtube.com/live/oh5piV-0MWQ?t=1h36m21s
Overview of the fantasia changes starts around 01:33:08
The bit about fantasia function change is at 01:35:35
Further elaboration about the timer at 01:36:21 "That said, that 60 minute counter only works the first time. So you can't go in at minute 59 and reset the counter. It'll count your time if you make your readjustments as well."
you're not logged in when you,re editing your character though
Yeah they clarified more recently! The character editing time is not included in the 60 minutes.
If there are server problems on launch similar to endwalker, I will withhold using the fantasia in the mean time.
I'll just be stress if I get DCd and have a queue coming back in.
Holy shit, what a win for Fanta enjoyers.
The amount of times I used a fantasia to turn into another race, only to then try on my glams and outfits, realise I didn't like my new look, then had to go right back and buy another one.
But will you have to count the 60min yourself? Or will there be a timer/countdown?
Hopefully it’s added to the timer menu. Because loading screens when teleporting probably count as time played, but maybe not the initial loading screen?
A Metal Gear Solid style countdown will appear and fill up the center of your screen until it ends. /s
The amount of times I've fantad only to fanta again for a minor adjustment is embarrassingly high. This change is awesome.
No, same! I do that all the time because I want my character to look perfect. 😭
It's weird how the character creator gives you so many different ways to eyeball your changes, but they end up being interpreted differently enough in game that it's a thing. I thought it was just me.
It isn't just you! I can be super happy with my character in character creation and then see them in a cutscene and think "Wow, I really need to change that."
And then I end up wasting a Fantasia because I was annoyed by a tiny detail. 😭
Ohh just wait until people start screaming.
I like these changes
Uh, they should give at least like 24 hours for the testing purposes.
Yeah, 60m isn't nearly enough unless you know exactly where you wanna go and have your glams setup already.
cmon lmao
Ok, you can keep your 0 minutes, I will take the 60.
It's still infinitely better than the current 0 minutes we've all been getting all along.
yeah no. an hour is enough.
You could complain about anything, couldn't you?
You still had the option of rolling an alt before finalizing on main. This just makes it easier.
It's actually insane that I'm getting down voted o.o Maybe they are like me and use glamourer to test new things 👮
I can't think of any reason you'd need 24 hours of gameplay. If you play six hours a day, that's four days of unlimited reshuffles. You need four days to make up your mind?
You’re getting downvoted because they’ve just given you a massive improvement, that they didn’t have to do, and you’re being a whiny little gremlin about it
It's probably because you're being a choosing beggar, if I have my terms right. You're being given something that you didn't have, something that's objectively better than what you currently have, and you're complaining that it isn't more.
2 reasons why.
Prone to abuses.
Possible effect on their additional sales. Fantasia is Mog Station’s most popular item after-all. Anything that can possibly affect their money line is NG.
Very pro-consumer change. W's all around
Could already do similar with fancy calculators, but nice of them to take lessons from that and make them more accessible.
Didn't even need that much since you could always make a new character and save appearance data once you'd decided you were happy and wanted it for your main. Still a really nice QOL improvement though.
This way you can see your actual gear sets with the changes you've made.
Plus you get to actually see how the skin/hair/etc color looks in a totally neutral lighting environment aka the Try On screen. Often the character creator would weirdly skew the colors causing them to look different in the game. There's still probably not going to be a flat lighting option like that in the character creator.
Shouldn't be a paid thing in the first place, its existence is anti consumer, and anti player, it ruins the whole point of being a game.
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Quest name: Gateway to Fantasia addiction
Problably.
I'm way past that quest..
Good (or bad) thing it’s repeatable then
Try not to buy another one (Savage)
Call it “The First Hit is Free”
It's like that guy people warn you about, who gives free drugs to kids to get them hooked
Quest name: The first taste is free
A Warrior (of Light) Reborn
Take into account that there might be queues on DT release, so keep that in mind when banking on your 60 minutes to re-adjust your newly fantasiaed hrothgal.
They did specify it's 60 minutes of gameplay, so if you log out, the timer pauses.
That said, I would highly recommend people DON'T use this free fantasia on day 1. There will likely be long queues, and logging out to fantasia means you have to log back in again. So I would hold off a bit.
For myself, I bought a fantasia during the last store sale (right before they teased the free one). I'm going to use it before servers go down, and change my character when logging in on day 1, and then just bank this free one for later use.
The free one is a drop in a bucket for me. I have several banked at all times 🫣
Thank you for keeping this game free to play.
This game is, in fact, not free to play.
I would suggest using a fantasia before the servers go down so you can change before you go into the queue.
I would actually suggest not doing this. We have no idea if Fantasias triggered before maintenance will trigger the 60 minute or still only grant a single edit.
If the 60 minute window starts when you initiate the edit, then it would. If the 60 minute window starts when you use the fantasia then it wouldn't. I wouldn't take the risk.
More specifically, unless they state otherwise there is every reason to believe that the changes in Fantasia behavior are going to be implemented with the patch. In other words, the code changes that allow the new behavior to occur may not exist yet until the patch has completed.
Everyone should wait. Without exception.
Hmmmmm I've had a fantasia used and ready to be edited since we got a free one back in like HW? I how this effect me lol
Whaaaaa, that’s both weird and awesome. I humbly request you return and update after DT launch… if you ever end up actually using it. Because at this point that’s not even a given.
Uh yea we do lol. I did this in Endwalker with no issues.
Endwalker had the same system as ARR - Shadowbringers. You used a fantasia while the old system was active, and when the servers came back up, the old system was still active.
But Dawntrail won't use the same system as ARR - Endwalker. When you use the Fantasia during Endwalker, the old system will be active. When you log back in during Dawntrail, the new system will be active. Until they confirm it explicitly, we don't know what that behavior will be.
It starting the second you use the fantasia is the exact type of stupidity that I could see the devs doing so I agree with this advice
100% do not do this. In the past folks who had Fantasias and Name Changes pending during times of extreme congestion (such as ShB/EW launch) were completely locked out of their characters until the congestion subsided.
I'd rather run around in the world for a few days and see how my character ACTUALLY looks.
That only applies if you already have (or plan to purchase before DT) a fantasia. This quest will not go live until 7.0
Yea I know...
The alternative is to wait in the queue and get the free one.
Yoshi-P is the GOAT for this, i wasn't sure if wanted to phantasia into FemGar but with these new changes i'll get more time to see how my character looks.
DT is already starting off with a W.
It also let's you go smack enemies and hear your voice so you don't get stuck with the infamous viera voice that sounded terrible.
Luckily they also added the combat voice preview into the CC, so you don't need to worry about that anymore.
the preview (at least in the benchmark) only lets you hear like one battle grunt, which means That One Really Weird Noise that almost every voice has might still go unnoticed
If you press the button repeatedly, it will cycle between grunts.
They added the battle voice lines to the character creator. So you can do that easily now.
I always check the voices on YouTube anyway
Every time I fantasia I somehow manage to get the skin shade JUST wrong enough that it bothers me enough to get another fantasia in a few months and mess it up in a completely new way. :x This change is a lifesaver lol
No, a real goat would understand how stupid paid character customisation is in a game world where you come to play and escape from irl.