TIL Following his success with Ghostbusters, Ivan Reitman almost helmed a 1980s Batman movie, and planned to cast Bill Murray as Batman, David Niven as Alfred, and David Bowie as the Joker. : r/todayilearned Skip to main content

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TIL Following his success with Ghostbusters, Ivan Reitman almost helmed a 1980s Batman movie, and planned to cast Bill Murray as Batman, David Niven as Alfred, and David Bowie as the Joker.

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Love Bill Murray but he would have been a terrible fucking Batman😂😂

I agree, but I have to acknowledge that I said the same thing about Michael Keaton.  

u/AcusTwinhammer avatar

They're casting Mr Mom as Batman?!?

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u/tinyasshoIe avatar

Bowie aside, Murray would have made an excellent Joker!

Agreed. Horrible as Batman. I'll bet he would have made an incredible villain.

He was a badass zombie

u/VolkspanzerIsME avatar

He'd be a good Penguin or Riddler.

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u/Critical_Roof2677 avatar

It was supposed to be a comedy; not a serious or dark movie.

u/CeterumCenseo85 avatar

Makes me wonder, has Bill Murray ever played a straight-up villain?

u/mcnastys avatar

Bill Murray would have been an excellent Bruce Wayne. You could always put someone else in "the suit."

u/oldshitnewshit78 avatar

Idk. He could have done a good batman Ala Adam West (aka the best adaption of batman ever)

No chin.

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David Bowie was such an underrated actor. I wish he appeared in more films.

u/Curious_Kangaroo_845 avatar

Yes. He was born to play an alien, a vampire, even Tesla as he did. Most of his music videos are incredibly good.

Shame he was too busy grooming minors.

That's part of the industry. Rae Dawn Chong stated she had sex with Mick Jaeger when she was 14. Celebrity culture period is replete with Pedo's.

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Fun fact linking Bill Murray with the Batman universe: the set of weird medical tools used in Batman 1989's Jack Nicholson Joker surgery scene is the same set Steve Martin's dentist used on Bill Murray's masochistic patient in 1986's Little Shop of Horrors. And who played Murray's role in the original 1960 Little Shop? That's right, Jack Nicholson.

Perfect casting!

Well, except for Batman. But that’s a minor role in (checks notes) a Batman movie.

But really, Niven as Alfred and Bowie as Joker? I’m in.

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ITT we recast Batman. If we kept the Bill Murray age, but kept the cast British/Irish, your choices are (not exhaustive):

  • Sean Bean

  • Pierce Brosnan

  • Maxwell Caulfield (Grease 2, Empire Records)

  • DDL

  • Rupert Everett

  • Nigel Havers

  • Lenny Henry

  • Liam Neeson

And you could do Peter Capaldi or Rowan Atkinson as the Riddler!

And you could have Gary Oldman as the original Commissioner Gordon!

I like this. Give me Neeson, with Brosnan a close second. Atkinson as the Riddler would be so fun, and I’d say Capaldi as Two-Face because his sneer is unmatched. And yeah Gary Oldman always. I’d watch a Batman film where he played all the parts. He was great as Gordon but I’d like to see him sink his teeth into some wilder villains.

And you could do Peter Capaldi or Rowan Atkinson as the Riddler!

Peter Capaldi would be an amazing villain.

Imagine Sean Bean as Bane...

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u/GotMoFans avatar

So he was going to cast an actor in his movie who died before Ghostbusters was even released!?!

David Niven died 7/29/83

Ghostbusters was released on 6/8/84.

BTW, if Ivan Reitman was doing Batman and bringing Bill Murray, Murray is playing The Joker.

u/Critical_Roof2677 avatar

Following the deaths of Holden and Niven and rewrites of the script, Reitman left the project and was replaced by Gremlins director Joe Dante, but the film was never made.

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So this was before his success with Ghostbusters, no?

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As soon as I read that, I could 100% see David Niven as Alfred.

You're a poor vigilante Dr. Venkman.

Bowie could have worked.

David Niven was dead and buried before Ghostbusters was even released, not sure how that planned casting would've worked.

u/N0b0me avatar

Did you not see Ghostbusters? They would cast his ghost

u/Wonderpants_uk avatar

Exactly what I was wondering 

u/Critical_Roof2677 avatar

Maybe read the article:

Following the deaths of Holden and Niven and rewrites of the script, Reitman left the project and was replaced by Gremlins director Joe Dante, but the film was never made.

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And Eddie Murphy was going to be Robin. Keep in mind that this was before they wanted to go brooding and dark, a la Frank Miller, and this was when Batman was still the campy and comedic Adam West TV character in the mainstream public’s eyes.

u/heartofgold48 avatar

Nicolas Gage would be a sick batman

u/Mumblix_Grumph avatar

When AI is able to make entire movies, I'm going to make a Batman film with Bowie as the Joker...hell I might make him Batman too. Shit, make all of them Bowie.

u/Capt_BrickBeard avatar

i had a similar thought a couple days ago. i was talking about mel gibson's mad max movies and said mel brooks. someone pointed it out and i just had a laugh and said i'd love to see a mel brooks mad max.

Like a nutty professor type thing

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u/BongDong69420 avatar

I'd like to see that.

That would have been epic!

u/couldbeworse2 avatar

It’s a lot less … muscular

Love Reitman, but that sounds awful.

Niven as Alfred and Bowie as the Joker are genius castings

u/hankbaumbachjr avatar

I kind of like the idea of getting someone like Bill Murray that nobody would ever believe is Batman to play Bruce Wayne and really try to translate what it should be like for Gotham citizens trying to connect the dots between Bruce and Batman...absolutely absurd.

u/Used-Calligrapher975 avatar

My panties would never recover from bowie joker

u/hundrethtimesacharm avatar

That’s wild. I have a Joker designs based off of David Bowie for a short I wrote.

I dont really like bill murray as an actor. I thought he was hilarious playing himself as a zombie, though. I just dont understand the appeal, he seemed creepy.

u/Evening_Bag_3560 avatar

I’d’ve paid for a ticket. 

u/SubstantialHippo4733 avatar

I’m calling bullshit.

David Niven was dead before Ghostbusters began filming.

u/PopeHonkersXII avatar

That sounds like a complete mess of a Batman movie 

u/Cool-Presentation538 avatar

That's insane. Obviously David Bowie should've been the Riddler