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Made completely irrelevant by HoX/PoX starting right after?
Just kidding ... speaks to the "revolutionary" Cyclops mindset. They don't hide. And acknowledge that there will be humans coming for them.
Its kinda funny, the ending of this would have you believe that Scott would be running things in Krakoa.
How did Xavier and everything come back from this issue to HOXPOX? I’m still confused.
Never clarified, and never going to be.
We just kicked off with most people being back, either having survived the Rosenberg Uncanny run, or been resurrected.
It was supposed to be a clean slate with readers to focus on the new status quo.
Xavier was already resurrected at this point. He returned in Astonishing. His consciousness was imprisoned in the astral plane by the Shadow King. He defeated him with help from X-men members, and made a deal with Fantomex to swap consciousness so Xavier could have his body and Fantomex could live in a dreamworld on the astral plane.
Charles revealed himself to the original five briefly but then altered their memories and kind of went on on some personal journey. So during Age of X-Man and Uncanny no one knew he was around. After that, it seems once the five were established he cooked up a body for himself and for Fantomex and put everything right. Most of the continuity fits if you think about it, the only thing I struggle to fit in is Moira.
Well it was essentially covered by Moira’s hidden mutant ability. She needed Xavier alive so used a bunch of her lives on it
Yep, and that's partly the reason why I quit collecting. Stuck around a bit for POX/HOX, and it didn't click for me so I was out.
I’m hoping Scott is just a revolutionary in this new era.
He is the middle ground of Xavier and Erik’s philosophies, but he protects mutantkind first and foremost.
I mean, with the X-Men in Age of X-Man presumed dead and the remaining mutants dropping like flies, going incognito was almost certainly the right choice. But once everyone popped out of Nate Grey’s brain, I understand why hiding was not an option.
If I could write an Infinity comic, it would be about what happened right after the battle pose on the last page of this issue, to get everyone to HoXPoX
You should link up with an artist and make it happen. I'll gladly throw money at that fanfic
I'd have stood with him. At the end of the day the goal has not to be hidden.
I think a secret mutant Society would of been a intresting status quo change for a bit.
Oh well.
It was weird that this is the ending and then we skip to Krakoa like nothing happened.
Yep. I always felt that did a massive disservice to Rosenberg's run, which I thought was fantastic. It felt the closest to classic X-Men we had gotten in a while and I was bummed when they ended it.
Ditto. Someone finally let a writer off the leash.
For me though, Ruth ending her life and Rahne getting killed in such a way...It was too much and I honestly can't go back and read it. It was too much Misery pr*n for me tastes.
Black is not at all a good color on Emma, but she still pulls it off IMO.
I still love her Dark X-Men costume and her Marvel now Uncanny X-Men costume though. More so when she has a reason to wear black.
Okay yeah, those are both pretty good.
Too bad her reason for wearing it was dumb (and I say that as a big Emma and Leah Williams fan). This was NOT a good era to be Emma.
Cyclops is right
🙏🙏🙏🙏
Based stance.
I loved it. It would’ve been even better if Krakoa was headed up by him rather than Charles/Magneto
True, he actually knows how to handle things.And those two idiots suck at their jobs
And then no one saw Dr. Nemesis ever again.
Except in Way of X.
Where did Storm go in the group shot? And Kitty sat away on a rock 😭
This run was kind of overhated tbh. I understand the criticisms, particularly the erratic pacing and the depressing atmosphere reminiscent of past “this is the end” X-Men stories, but I think those types of stories work well for the X-Men. Larroca’s art certainly wasn’t the best either but I think suited the tone in certain ways. I also liked the eclectic line-up. Overall could’ve been much, much worse and it’s not close to the worst X-Men comics ever.
Agreed. I recognize the faults but personally really enjoyed following it the whole way through. The X-men checking off their bucket list at the end of the road is a really compelling premise.
I think it’s main fault is it felt like a filler run and it would have been much better if it set things up for Hickman more
I'd read a reboot of X-Men that was called "Real X-Men" and would be about the characters as old as their canonical creation date. I.e. someone created in 2000, They are 24 in the comic. Someone created in 1940? They are 84 in the comic.
The reason I say this, is I'd like a little more stakes with X-Men, and a story that is both familiar but self-contained. I feel like arcs like that probably stand the test of time better than continually maintaining one canon that makes no sense.
I've toyed wit hthe idea for a batman-centric story and it sorta morphed into a thought experiment of 'DC through the Ages'
I would so be on board for a real time setting.
I pretend that entire run never happened
Cyclops being based like always, next question.
I get hiding. I really truly do. A chance to not be persecuted, to bow out, to fit in.... to Conform.
...but what does that say to anyone who comes after? That the only option is to cower down? To essentially chop off your nose and come crawling begging to have the powers that be pretend to not notice you while denying who and what you are?
I haven't had firehoses turned to me. I haven't had dogs turned loose on me. I wasn't made to kneel in a line as a cop wit ha fire extinguisher sized can of pepperspray firehose the whole line of bound and kneeling students because his precious ego got bruised.
My opinion comes from a position that is both of the privilage I get to make a choice, and from the perspective of being surrounded by people who 'Want those f-gts shoved back i nthe closet before hosing it down with napalm with them inside.'
Hiding tells the bigots they won. It tells them that if they bully and hurt and murder enough... Everyone in any group that isn't them can be made to stop existing.
So while I don't get along with Cyk's attitude often... I'm with him here.
From a story standpoint there wasnt any other option. Lose the "war" and Marvel loses an entire line of consistently selling books.
From a practical standpoint there was no way they could just hide forever. Interesting idea, impractical in execution unless they keep a batallion of telepath perpetually mindwiping people around the world (Marvel i give you permission to use that).
Throw that on the pile of sketchy shit current xavier has considered/has as a contingency.
Nearly everything about RosenCanny was awful beyond words. Emma getting nearly every mutant killed for reasons. McCoy getting nearly every mutant killed because reasons. Rahne beaten to death without using her powers as the world's absolute worst trans analogy.
This is no exception. It's ham-handed and dumb at best.