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Most Deserved/Satisfying Murder in the Show

The security guard from the Navel Observatory / Vice Presidents Residence who uses his authority to badger Paige for her number then steals her ID, holding it hostage so she has to go on a date with him.

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u/mmechap avatar

The second one of the show: the guy (Teschnev?) who raped her when she was in training.

That was the second death, but the first murder, no? The first death was their coworker that (Teschnev?) shanked while attempting to flee.

That’s called murder as well

u/mmechap avatar

Ah yes

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Timoshev!

u/mmechap avatar

YES thank you

The rat bastard deserved it for sure!

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u/JiveTurkey1983 avatar

Yep. P chose to avenge E instead of defecting. Amazing scene.

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I can’t remember if Phillip actually killed that guy who perved over Paige in the department store in season one or just beat the crap out of him, but that was very satisfying either way.

u/WillieOverall avatar

Yes!

P didn't kill him. He stuck a BBQ fork in his groin and said an Arnold-Like line, "No more little girls or I'll be back and I'll stick that in your heart."

u/XA36 avatar

That scene is what finalized my decision that the show was for me.

u/IncipitTragoedia avatar

Stuck it in his hand but yeah

Watch it again, the fork didn't end in the hand, it ended in the groin.

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u/JiveTurkey1983 avatar

Yep. He seemed to be alone so in my headcanon he either bled out or at least lost his balls

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u/JiveTurkey1983 avatar

Then he steals a hot dog lol. Fucking legend.

I thought he pussied out by backing down at the department store at the time, but in hindsight, he played it exactly right.

Yeah. Contrast Paige in season 6 when she reacts immediately and publicly to those two guys being obnoxious to her in the bar and beats the crap out of them in front of a bar full of people. Elizabeth is rightly furious at her.

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u/SwimsWithSharks1 avatar

When Claudia killed the CIA's Afghan group leader after tasing him in his apartment. She acted like a helpless, dotty old woman and then turned around and tased him. Then she cut his carotid artery and watched him bleed out.

Esteemed character actress Margo Martindale

And fugitive from the law

The actress is a fugitive from the law?

Edited

In the show Bojack Horseman Margo Martindale plays herself, and in the show everyone always refers to her as "Esteemed character actress Margo Martindale". Eventually she gets up to hijinks that make her a criminal and fugitive and that description gets updated so that every time she is mentioned she is instead referred to as "Esteemed character actress and fugitive from the law Margo Martindale".

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u/InsincereDessert21 avatar

I wasn't playing any violins for Larrick.

I liked him.  On his own he was a natch for P & E. He was so intelligent and an incredible soldier.

u/ProudCatLadyxo avatar

Very true. I also was not playing any violins for Lucia, when Larrick killed her. She was told multiple times to leave him alone and she would not stop, so in their world, he did the only thing he could, and Elizabeth knew it.

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When Elizabeth kills Tatiana who was trying to kill Nosterenko in Season 6.

u/Madeira_PinceNez avatar

I'll go against the grain and disagree with this one.

Tatiana's death felt pretty tragic to me. She wasn't a scumbag like the naval dude, she wasn't training mercs like Larrick, she wasn't a rapist like Timoshev, she was fighting for a cause she believed in, like many of our lead characters, she was just on the 'other' side, but on a show like this what does that even mean.

This is a loyal officer who worked her way up from nothing and was primed to become a Rezident until the lover she genuinely cared about stabbed her in the back, kneecapping her Lassa virus operation and effectively killing her career, as she'd likely never receive promotion after that. She doesn't seem to have been trained as a field agent, so she likely volunteered for/agreed to the Nestorenko operation because it seemed like the only option for getting her career back on track.

That moment seeing her lying on the steps after Elizabeth kills her is a great one, because of its complexity. We can understand the actions and motivations of both women in this scene - Elizabeth, ostensibly committing a traitorous act but adhering to her own morals by doing so, and Tatiana, backed into a corner by Oleg's (ultimately futile) actions and doing what she thinks she needs to in order to get back in the KGB's good graces.

It's an unambiguous win that Elizabeth takes her out, but it's done in such a way that this tertiary character's arc still feels well-developed and tragic, and this kind of writing is what makes the show so good.

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u/ProudCatLadyxo avatar

Timoshev in 1x1, well and truly deserved to be killed more than most anyone killed on the show. A rapist of who knows how many women, absolutely. Most people were simply doing their job, for the wrong side, or wrong place, wrong time, but Timoshev was genuinely evil.

As a sidebar, the character who most deserves to die was on Sons of Anarchy, played by Adrienne Barbeau. I was literally screaming at the TV to just shoot her.

u/MatthewDawkins avatar

I agree he was coercive and controlling, but I'm not sure I'd say his murder was deserved or satisfying.

On the other hand, the East German assassin definitely deserved what he got.

u/WillieOverall avatar

The German assassin was just going his job, killing people the KGB told him to, just like Philip and Elizabeth. Two people he didn't know and who had no specific way to signal they were legit tried to stop him from his mission, so he tried to kill them; again, exactly what P&E would do.

u/MatthewDawkins avatar

And I'd suggest that's slightly more deserving than an aggressive navy guy.

u/WillieOverall avatar

Sure, murderer is worse than aggressive. Not disagreeing with you.

Just saying, if German Assassin guy deserves to die, so do P&E.

I guess I should have just put "satisfying" and not "deserving" in the title.

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Oh they definitely deserved to die as well, yes. P&E are terrible people who destroyed everything they touched.

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Ever since I watched This Is Us, I can’t take the East German assassin guy seriously as it’s Toby, who could not be more different from his character in this.

u/MatthewDawkins avatar

He leads a secret life.

u/MollyJ58 avatar

He ran a hamburger grille on Stranger Things.

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u/Minimum-Round5097 avatar

He was an ambulance driver in the Knick

Hahaha. I prefer him on The Americas! Lol.

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I'll tweak this a bit, the most deserved murder that didn't happen was Tuan. I was so sickened by his psychopathy, even though he was reconnecting on the sly with his former family in Seattle, didn't earn any redemption from me.

u/JiveTurkey1983 avatar

Yeah he sucked. P&E should have "disappeared" him

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u/Temperature-Material avatar

The suitcase lady…. sorry. It was such a great scene. Felt bad for the character.

u/onlydans__ avatar

Annalise! She totally didn’t deserve that lol that was awful. Great scene but she didn’t deserve it

u/MollyJ58 avatar

Oh my God, "the suitcase lady" 😲

u/JiveTurkey1983 avatar

#JusticeForAnnalese

She was a baddie and deserved better

u/IGoThere4u avatar

She was just so…ditzy

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u/onlydans__ avatar

Most deserved? Timoshev, Tatiana, Larrick, the Sourh African agent who tried to arrange for the bombing of a university…

Most satisfying? Agent Gad, although that wasn’t technically murder. I like Gad but that scene was unfortunately hilarious. Also the Softcell bus murder and Jared because… fuck that kid!

That psycho Tuan should have gotten murked for putting Pasha through so much hell.