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Say what you will about Last Jedi, or Holdo…

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But when this happened in the theater, it was magic. Dead silence. For a few seconds, the hate dissipated and everyone was in awe. Maybe because it was in IMAX, but moments like this are why Star Wars deserves to be seen on the big screen.

Then the movie continued.

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u/Calvinbouchard2 avatar

I love that people are so dumb that theaters had to post signs saying, "There's a point in the movie that is silent for a couple seconds. This isn't a glitch in the movie. You can't get a refund."

u/Majestic87 avatar

Ooh, my favorite story time!

I worked at a movie theater in the 2000’s. 20 screen deal, well populated and “educated” area of the USA.

Remember how the Bond movie, Casino Royale, opens? With the flashback in black and white to his first kill that earns him double 0 status?

For the entire run of that movie, we would constantly have customers coming out of the theaters to warn us that “someone had turned off the color on the movie.”

No lie, no exaggeration. We had to put up signs alerting people that the film had a segment on black and white, this was not a mistake.

u/_lemon_suplex_ avatar

Wow and that’s literally only like the first 3 minutes. 

u/Majestic87 avatar

Oh yeah, people did not have the patience to even make it past one scene of the movie to panic and coming running for help.

u/True-Grape-7656 avatar

I’m glad those people ruined their own experiences

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u/jcosteaunotthislow avatar

I’d love to see their response to Cleo from 9-5, with its like reverse wizard of oz color intro into a black and white film.

To be fair, if we aren't alerted immediately, we might not be able to fix a problem. I worked a protectionist in school, and we have to use foam spacers to mark problem sectio s of film as they wind onto the platter after going through the projector. If we don't insert those spacers, we can't fix it without playing the film all the way through again.

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Reminds me of going to see 'A Quiet Place' and even just a few people eating popcorn or taking a drink was crazy loud because theres almost no sound at all in the movie for large chunks of time

u/Spudtron98 avatar

Seriously though it feels like all cinema food is designed to be as loud as physically possible. So much crunch and plastic wrappers.

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u/IrNinjaBob avatar

To be fair, those are the only minutes where it would make sense to make this mistake. Not really saying it’s a reasonable mistake to make, but if you are going to make it, the first few minutes is when that would happen.

Schindler’s List had it the opposite way. A little color at the end.

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Wow such a crazy and fascinating story tbh, I'm amazed by how people can be this dumb. And it's one of the best openings for a Bond movie imo.

Yeah, that one is weird. It's not like no one had never used black and white for a flashback before 2006.

I feel like I'm on the opposite end of that one, though. Something could actually be wrong and I would think it was just an interesting aesthetic choice.

I agree with you. And when black and white is used correctly, it helps the plot tremendously. A good example of its use is in the film Oppenheimer.

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"How did he die?"

"...your contact?"

"Yes."

"...not well."

Such a badass exchange. I liked them showing how brash and irrational young Bond could be in that movie; like after he lost all of MI-6's money, he was just going to straight up stab Le Chiffre in front of everyone lol.

The chair torture scene made sure EVERY man feel it.

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work retail for 6 months, your amazement will fade instantly

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u/Cx-St avatar

Working at a movie theater during Into the Spider-Verse was similar, everyone thought the movie was playing in 3D and they needed 3D glasses. Or they said something was just wrong with the projector. Nah, movie just has style.

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I saw Jurassic Park about 3 weeks after it came out. There had been 3 weeks of the media telling people not to take their kids to see the movie, it's not Barney. Yet, as I left the theater, there was a dad (with his kids) complaining to the manager that it wasn't appropriate for kids.

u/Majestic87 avatar

We constantly had parents taking their young children out in blizzards in order to go see a movie.

Then they would yell at us because “the parking lot is covered in snow! I had to park so far away!”

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I worked at a Blockbuster in the early 90s. We had a blizzard and the TV stations were all doing live shots telling people to stay home. Everyone had the same idea "let's go rent a movie and stay home!" SMH

Edit to add: I just thought of this; I was at a movie once and the theater staff forgot to start the movie. About 15 minutes past the start time, someone went out to talk to the manager. As it turns out, someone started the projector, but nothing else. They never dimmed the lights, never turned on the sound and didn't even turn the projector bulb on. They said they couldn't rewind the movie, so we all missed the first 15 minutes (which was mostly previews). They did give us passes for another movie.

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Bro please say sike.. there's no fucking way these people were educated in any way shape or form if they genuinely believed that lmaooo. Obviously I know you put it in quotations but like good Lord, I know y'all had a good hearty laugh at that shit.

"imagine how stupid the average person is then realize half of all people are stupider than that."

George Carlin

Even smart people seem to have specialized intelligence. I work with plenty of PhD professors who are only smart in that field and are dumb with literally everything else.

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I’ll make it more clear: this was East Coast Massachusetts, 20 minutes outside of Boston. I understand I come from a very arrogant state, but for good reason, our education rates are very high.

That doesn’t protect you from stupid people, however.

You know that George Carlin quote? “Imagine the average person. Then realize that half the population is even dumber than that person?”

When you work enough retail jobs, or jobs dealing with the general public (and I have worked many of those), you realize that quote is absolutely true, with no hyperbole.

Human beings are equally capable of greatness, and utter absolute stupidity.

I love this quote. I'm working in community service of a big online platform. Most of my clients are college students, and DAMN they are stupid. To be fair, I only have to deal with the stupid ones because the smart user doesn't need to call me for help.

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I'm from and still live and work in Massachusetts in high end remodeling — I've met plenty of very successful and intelligent people who are, in their own way, completely clueless in certain respects.

I recall one client who went to and was teaching at Harvard. A commonly retold anecdote about them was how our plumbers had left her very clearly written instructions on getting their non-frost-free sillcock (outdoor faucet for a hose) ready for winter: locate and turn off the shut-off indoors, then go outside and turn the knob, draining that last little bit of water so it won't freeze at the point where it goes outside and then burst the pipe as a result. Everything went fine that first winter — but when the weather began to get warmer we got a call from her, upset that we hadn't left her instructions on how to get it ready for the Spring. Somehow it never occurred to her that she just do the same steps in reverse.

Reminds me of an anecdote related to me by a friend who works at a prestigious university. A professor had been working with another institution for the summer, and reached out to my friend who works in administration. He demanded to know why his bank account was empty. She asked him if he'd ever provided payroll information to the institution which he'd been working with. He said no, that wasn't his job.

'Intelligent' people are capable of mind-numbingly stupid things.

My freshman year roommate, who took 600-level courses as a freshman, set our window shade on fire with his menorah. We both had our backs turned to it. I said I smelled smoke, and he replied that he was using smokeless candles. I repeated that I still smelled smoke, and he insisted that it couldn't be him because he was using smokeless candles. When I turned to face him, I saw the flames reaching almost all the way up to the ceiling.

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u/descender2k avatar

Forgot to turn the color on! LOL

Technology is already magic to so many people.

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u/Vault_Tec_Guy avatar

Pleasantville (1998) would have blown their minds.

Absolutely love that film. I still say "Wizard of Oz" wouldn't be as big a deal if it weren't one of the first color films. It would be remembered, but not nearly as iconic without the color.

Similarly, "Pleasantville"'s use of color is truly epic. I hate that it got bad press at the time because Christian groups boycotted it (completely misunderstanding the message of the film, ironically just like Reese Witherspoon's character does), saying it was a film about two teenagers going into a classic wholesome TV show world only to corrupt it and turn things color by teaching the wholesome teenagers of that world about sex.

Like ... morons, it wasn't about sex. It was about finding freedom and true emotions.

You give them too much credit, most of them would still protest a movie that is about "finding freedom and true emotions"

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It genuinely annoys me and makes me sad that some people actually are that stupid. It's also scary.

How did you even keep a straight face?

u/Majestic87 avatar

Couldn’t afford to get fired for laughing out loud in a customers face.

The employees all had a laugh about it in private, however.

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I worked in Yosemite one summer helping people into their rented boats to float the river.

One family came up and asked me, before they had rented their boat, how many times they got to go around.

They thought the Yosemite River was a lazy river loop…

I worked at Home Depot a long time ago and once had a husband and wife come in looking for a new weed whacker. The wife looked pissed and the husband seemed normal. I went up asked if they needed help and the husband started to explain how they needed a new weed whacker that was easier and safer to use because her wife hit herself in the leg with the blade that cuts the grass down. I let out a little chuckle because that's 100% user error and should be near impossible to do and she gave me a death look that I've never seen before.

I think I suggested an electric one because they are lighter and easier to control or maybe a longer one so she'd be further from the blades, but was just BSing because if you are dumb enough to hit yourself and blame the tool, there's no helping you.

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When I was a kid I loved Smashing Pumpkins. The song “Bodies” starts with a bunch of distortion and I thought my tape was broken. I got a new tape only to find that the new one had it too… I always thought that I probably wasn’t the only kid who did that.

face/palm... Some people are so incredibly dense. I remember seeing Gremlins 2 in the theater, and people started yelling the second you saw that fake melting of the film and got louder when the Gremlin's shadows were moving all over the screen. They really thought someone was in the projector room messing around lol.

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On the other hand, I remember seeing the X-files in theatre and the opening scene has a boy falling in an abandoned mineshaft or well. Just as he fell the screen went black, there wasn’t much dialogue and everyone thought it was just super dark (x-files being famous for being sparsely lit). It wasn’t until the scene changed and the audio changed that we realized it wasn’t part of the show. Got a free pass to come back and watch it at another time.

Had this happen during the Edward Norton hulk movie. Went from Bruce walking through the Jungle to Blonsky running and jumping after having his superhuman injections. I had already seen the movie, but my brother and dad hadn’t. And I saw their faces all confused. I immediately went and told the employees along with about 5 others. 3 movie tickets were given to everyone.

How did they decide which 3 got the movie tickets?

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I went to see The Matrix Reloaded as a teenager. They had managed to fuck up the order of the film (not sure if it was actual film or something else that went wrong) but it basically played the final third before the second third. But at the time, no one knew what to expect of a Matrix sequel so we all sat quietly in our seats trying to pretend like we understood what was happening, until the staff came in and apologised for the mistake.

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I would be shocked except you know the opening of Dark Knight where it goes from the WB logo to a blue explosion that starts dead silent and then the Joker theme quietly intensifies? So many idiots yelled HELLO SOUND?

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u/mbhammock avatar

I still haven’t gotten my refund for Tenet, the whole movie was backwards!

u/Dekklin avatar

Don't watch Memento

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I will never forgive this decision because instead of a sign, one of the employees came to the audience right before the movie started to explain this. Then when the scene happened, instead of actually getting to savor the scene, some socially inept dumbass shouts "OMG the sound is gone what happened??" and the whole theatre laughed. Absolutely took away the enjoyment. People are indeed stupid.

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I was waiting for this during Civil War, where the street riot goes silent and there's nothing but shutter clicks for at least a minute. My audience wasn't super loud to begin with, but what little murmurs there were... disappeared.

You could literally hear stomachs gurgling, a few people breathing it was that quiet. I tip my hat to Garland; what better way to shut up an audience than to go cold for a solid minute or more. I was so happy no one said anything. Hella gripping moment.

u/ODSTsRule avatar

It took me a solid 12 seconds to remember that there is a Movie called just "Civil War" and that you didnt mean the Marvel one.

u/Ragman676 avatar

Its really good too.

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u/Interesting_Sea_1411 avatar

Yeah that moment really put you on notice

The jarring cut a little bit later from relative silence or light music to gunshots was also crazy

The sound was easily the best part of that movie and I enjoyed it overall

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I was so distracted by the changing frame rates watching Avatar 2 I thought for sure something was wrong with the projector. I left the theater to get the manager, they came in and watched it and agreed that the film kept switching between 24fps and 48fps. She looked at the projector and couldn’t find anything wrong. They were nice and gave me my money back. When I got home I did some googling and found out that Cameron intentionally was switching between frame rates, not only between scenes but even between shots. Knowing this I watched the movie again and sort of got used to the changing frame rates. I would’ve appreciated a sign at the theater warning audiences about this

...Why would he do that?

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JC? Because water moves more naturally to the eye in 48 fps and with the 3D makes it look like you’re watching actual aliens and alien sea life moving about on water. But audiences are accustomed to cinema moving at 24 fps. So he switched it to show off water in places and then back to what’s familiar for plot points. At least this is what I recall him saying about it.

Cameron says he wanted the 48fps on the action and 24fps on the more close up, intimate moments. Also everything underwater is 48fps so during the hour of the movie that’s basically an underwater Planet Pandora episode it’s all the same frame rate and isn’t as jarring. Luckily on home video it’s all the same 24fps, even though watching Avatar movies at home defeats the purpose

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I remember that. It’s also the most scientifically accurate sequence in Star Wars too, at least when it comes to sound. Since space is a vacuum, there’s no matter for sound waves to travel through, so everything you’d witness would be silent

I always liked that a lot of the ship movements in Firefly were silent.

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Considering the time it came out, it was practically unheard of to have realistic space scenes in film and television. It came right on the heels of TNG, DS9, Voyager, The Phantom Menace, Armageddon, Galaxy Quest, Event Horizon, etc.

All of them had a more... lax approach to depictions of space travel. Having Firefly of all things show space as a silent but deadly place was a bit of a novelty.

Babylon 5 says hi! They definitely went with a more realistic approach to space flight well before Firefly.

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u/varried-interests avatar

Our physics don't apply to the galaxy far, far away, and never have

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u/scrmbldchkn avatar

Don't like the last jedi but this was visually the coolest thing in the sequels. It looks great

I worked at a theatre in a small city in Canada. When the movie Dunkirk came out we actually had a glitch where the sound was turned off during one of the screenings of the movie. But nobody was sure if there was something wrong so no one said anything for over 30 mins. Wild to me that you wouldn’t notice or want to say something, but maybe just because of the type of movie people were confused lol.

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Ah, another holdo manouver post with the "say what you will" title.

I love star wars, I love this sub, but it has some of the worst fucking content on reddit. Every day it's like "DAE think Hayden was good as Anakin?" "What is this ship? venator pictured" "Name a character cooler than Revan"

I don't know if star wars fans are just really boring on average or if this is like an incestuous bot karma farming paradise because hundreds of people engage with every post and thousands of people upvote them.

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Thankyou! I thought I was just becoming a grumpy old man, but there's apparently (at least) two of us who feel this way. Posts in this sub are absolute drivel and I don't understand the daily engagement.

There are two things I truly hate on this sub: people who are intolerant of Star Wars content, and The Rise of Skywalker.

I lold at the two things you hate joke. Great way to adaptit to this sub. People who are intolerant of other people's people cultures, and the Dutch!

u/rileyescobar1994 avatar

Funny story. I went to school in another town for a few years. Everyone in that town was Dutch and related. So they all had the same obnoxious traits. Not because they were Dutch but because they were all one big family and they were all really proud of being Dutch. So when this joke appeared in the movie my whole family was rolling lol.

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A lot of fandom subs are like that, it’s especially bad when there isn’t even any new content for the IP, it’s all nostalgia and hundreds of “about to play/watch ____, what am I in for?” or “just finished ____, what next?”

It's not exclusive to Star Wars.

Halo has its "I actually enjoyed [insert 343 game]" "anyone else think Halo 3's story was bad?" "Hot take: I actually enjoy 343's art style" "does anyone else really like ODST's soundtrack"

Hell even Helldivers 2 is already getting some "the meta is borrring" "please buff [insert thing here]" "please nerf [insert thing here]" "anyone else hate the Malevolent Creek meme?" "Hot take: Arrowhead games are based"

u/Vik-6occ avatar

band of brother inspired perspective of the empire does anyone else am i the only one that keanu reeves revan old republic CG movie the fly now a surprise to be sure hallway scene

I hate it here

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Gritty

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Say what you will about “Ah, another holdo manouver post with the ‘say what you will’ title.”

I will say what I will, and no amount of encouragement will deter me!

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These posts always work out as well as the Holdo maneuver did.