Mana Vs Aether?

I don’t see anyone in this verse being close in potential to Arthur. Like the Indrath clan are thought of as the strongest, because of their ability to use aether. However, unlike the Indraths (who are only able to use one aspect of aether), Arthur is literally able to control every aspect. If he has enough insight, there really shouldn’t be anyone who is able to compare to him. So I hope Cecilia doesn’t just equal his strength, because she’s „the legacy“, because that would be kinda lame. Like I get why she would be far superior when Arthur would still have mana, but now with aether there really shouldn’t be any chance that she will be stronger than him.

Yeah nah Aether easily wins to be honest.

Mana is like controlling the flow of water, the temperature degree, etc.

Aether would be like controlling the very concept behind 'Liquid Substances' in the universe

If arthur gets to high enough level with aether, he could separate himself from the flow of time (za warudo) Walk into kezess. Or agronas place. Closed door? Go through it with godstep. While the time is still stopped, use aether to cut the space that has agrona or kezess at, cutting them without physically touching them. Leave the domain, sit in a chair comfortably return to the flow of time, and relax.

I mean, it definitely wont happen like this, but thats the kind of threat the asuras facing with arthur learning more and more about aether, getting stronger and stronger core. His power increases drastically, unlike anything that exist that uses mana.

Same reason why the ancient mages were killed. If they werent such a pacifist culture they could have designed things that the asuras could not do anything against. Like they literally created subspaces where the asuras were off limits, to this day they cant do shit against that.

Once they learn how much actual threat art is, he will be asura public enemy number 1, even if not everyone agrees on it.

Arthur will easily beat Cecilia. As of right now, she is still only white core, and by the time she catches up to where he currently is, he will be much higher than anything she could obtain with a lesser body.

Currently arthur will win but we don't know what will happen in future because Cecilia's growth is too abnormal.

Aether simply has more effects and a higher base level of power. Each time a mana core changes the properties of their Mana and reaches a higher level of purity, the color changes. Reaching the White core seems to be a drastic and exponential difference in power after that change in purity levels, and we don’t know how many more stages there are… (There is at least the Integration stage, but Sylvia said ‘the stage after white’ without mentioning that name so maybe the Integration stage is the last stage, and there’s a stage between White and Integration?)

Aether is different, according to Aldir, even the ambient Aether could withstand the explosion of World Eater, yet when Arthur used unrestrained Realmheart, Cadell could still counter and fight him… this could be due to a difference in capacity of Aether, rather than their levels of purity because Arthur at the time had no way to ‘store’ the Aether from the atmosphere.

Furthermore, the progression of Aether is not a natural biological phenomenon like the Mana Core, instead Arthur has to forcibly increase the purity and capacity of his Aether core using sources containing large quantities of purified Aether. This limits him more than you might think because it means that he will eventually reach a plateau, where there is no object that holds enough Aether for him to advance his core, and so he would have to slowly upgrade his core like those with Mana cores do.

My interpretation is that the Asuras have Mana potent enough to compete with impure Aether, which is what the Dragons can also use. The Dragons are on par with others without Aether, but with it they are superior because they don’t just blast the limited capacity of Aether at any magic attack they see but instead use special abilities like Static Void.

The Djinn could purify Aether to an extent and also use special abilities with much more versatility than the Dragons, however they were less combat oriented due to the peaceful nature of the Djinn. Basically, the Dragons won because they had better combat techniques to utilize the Aether, but the Djinn had more potential than the Dragons because they could eventually gain combat techniques while also using more pure Aether.

My theory is that, now that Arthur can both channel Aether in his body and had the insights and attitude to gain combat based abilities with Aether, he has the greatest potential. I’d say that like, Arthur right now is about peak Scythe level in terms of raw power, this is because his Aether will pretty much melt through any Mana he comes across, and the only one who showed any counter to this was Cadell when he fought Arthur using unrestrained Realmheart. In terms of technique he is a bit behind because he has a smaller arsenal and less versatility, and can’t actually use ambient Aether aside from absorbing it. So Arthur right now is probably equal to Cadell, because he now has enough Aether to directly fight with Cadell’s magic, without his spells being outright fodderized by the Vritra decay influence, and although he has a limited arsenal, all of his new Aether techniques suit his fighting style way better than his Mana spells.

Arthur at or after the Victoriad? Probably in between Scythes and Asuras in terms of raw power, but with mastery over his current techniques as well as new Godrunes with more versatility or power due to the higher purity of his Aether. After he finishes finding all 4 Djinn ruins? Probably at or above the Asuras in raw power and a bit behind in technique because the Asuras have had the ability to use special mana arts like decay for like… ever. The Legacy, would be the peak of Mana so Cecilia could probably reach the same Integration Stage, thus having raw power equal to Asuras but also probably use different mana arts like decay or force, or creation-type, however Arthur could theoretically have way higher raw power and way more complex techniques if he actually finds some way to upgrade his core, which will get harder to do each time he forms a new layer.

However, with the story going as it is now… I think it was good for TurtleMe to have Arthur only start using Aether now, as it forces him to rush his progress a bit but at the same time gives him a way higher ceiling than any other character, so I’d say in terms of potential he is above everyone by like an impossible gap, but by the end of the story he will really only reach a level beyond them, but with a much smaller gap, since if he really reached the maximum potential it won’t even be a fight.

Easily Arthur because OUR LORD REGIS will carry posted by regis worshipper gang

I feel like when they do ultimately fight it will be because nico was killed by arthur so cecilia will be very unstable and more powerful than usual while arthur won’t want to hurt her out of guilt from their previous lives and not wanting to kill tessia so i think cecilia will have the advantage

Just by the nature of arths power he will win for sure. Mana can't compare with aether. Remeber that the indrath clan only are the main clan in epheotus because they can use aether.

If we’re talking raw power, Arthur by a country mile. I don’t think he could kill Tessia’s body, so if it were a fight to the death there’s no way. But the Legacy is like a glass canon, very powerful, but in a fragile vessel. Grey is effectively an Asuran now, you could slit his throat and dismember him but he’d get back up so even if power levels were close durability is no contest. I believe the point of the Legacy is that the ki/mana pool grows continuously which matters more if it’s mana vs mana but I doubt there are many 1v1 scenarios where aether doesn’t slap. It just appears aether is more lethal, you don’t rely on fire burning someone or lightning electrocuting them, you can just shape aether into whatever weapon is best at killing given any situation or enhance your body etc.

To be honest while mana has more attributes and versatility it is much less powerful than aether which while only existing in a single pure form, holds much more power. Arhur would undoubtedly easily win a fight against Cecil for two simple reasons. One Arthur has an absurd amount of combat experience with literally every type of opponent there is, he knows what to expect considering that he knows the power of Cecilia. Second he has become powerful enough and has enough skills to easily annihilate any opponent except for an asura. He will simply start a surprise attack and knock her down in a moment without ever giving her a chancce to react.

Arthur will always win against her cuz she'll never become asura lvl strong. That's not her purpose

All I know is Aether is like God's power and Mana is power of science which can not rival God's power. So, in conclusion Art is stronger that any other.

I dont think the Legacy is just high control of mana. Agrona thnks of it like a godlike existance above even the asura, while the asura themselves think of it as a powerful weapon Agrona gained in order to defeat them. Hmmm maybe the Legacy can have an absolute control over mana. Or it could be the key to mastering fate itself. Really its up in the air what it can really do. All we know right now is that the Legacy has an insane compatibility with mana.

To add, Arts control of aether isnt on the same level as Cecilias is for mana. He can control it sure, but he isnt exactly the master of it like Cecilia is for mana. That said he is also the only being able to actually control aether, which represents actual laws of reality. While mana represents reality itself. If mana is the world, then aether is the law that governs said world. Both being essential components of reality itself.

Hmm thinking about it, maybe the legacy is half of what Agrona believes he needs for mastering fate. Maybe fate can only be mastered with control of both mana and aether.

Thing is we really do not know what the "legacy" is. If its just insight into mana and the world I see Cecil's potential being bigger than arthur. Like mentioned already arthur views aether too much like mana when it is its own seperate thing. If Cecilia gets a feel of aether somehow because of her insight in mana, which is really not that strange because the ancients had that much control of aether and they didn't have aether cores, then she will be hands down stronger than arthur with his current insight of aether and the way he uses it. But without aether there should be no f'ing way she wins. In conclusion it really depends on wtf the legacy actually is

well it should be one hell of a battle i wanna se Arthur use full of his abilities and I don't think Cecelia will be alone nico will also be there. 1v2 or else God Slayer vs Demi gods

What I wanna know is Arthur strong with aether or mana core