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Assuming you're not playing down the significance of the Europa and Conference Leagues (which you might be!), the BBC's European rights extend only to the Champions League.
Yes, that's true. Certainly having all the Champions League teams' matches is quite a big deal, though.
They is nothing to say they won’t show brief highlights of the Europa league / conference league on Football Focus though
There’s nothing to say they will, either.
Presented by Gary Lineker with Michael Dawson, Micah Richards and Noel Gallagher as pundits
Commentary by Darren Fletcher, Jamie Redknapp and Mike Summerbee
Chaz N Dave are on reporting duties
Before the game, Glenn Hoddle and Chris Waddle will entertain the crowd with a 2024 remix of Diamond Lights.
Carragher suggesting the Spurs fans don't want to win this game. That's not really a thing is it?
trust me unfortunately it is
Kelly Cates pointing out how many Spurs fans are wearing their "sky blue away kit"
Well, indeed, and I have no insider info to say that, but maybe the relationship with TNT will be so fruitful for all concerned that they might be happy to offer up a few clips, suitably credited.
Despite that cock-up above, it got me thinking about the Beeb's football portfolios in the past and how the current set of rights match up to what they had in the past, and if there ever was a particular golden age. So if we take 1988 as the start of the modern era of football, as before then the Beeb and ITV faithfully carved all worthwhile football up between them, you've got...
1988-92 - FA Cup live (one a round, first pick), England highlights, ad hoc European matches
1992-97 - Premier League highlights, FA Cup live (one a round, first pick), England highlights, ad hoc European matches
1997-2001 - Premier League highlights, ad hoc European matches (very ad hoc at times, plus the 2000 World Club Championships)
2001-04 - FA Cup live (two a round, first pick), England live (home qualifiers and ad hoc away matches), ad hoc European matches
2004-08 - Premier League highlights, FA Cup live (three a round, first pick, plus replays), England live (all home matches and a few away matches)
2008-09 - Premier League highlights
2009-12 - Premier League highlights, Football League live (first picks), League Cup live (semi and final)
2012-14 - Premier League highlights, Football League highlights, League Cup highlights
2014-15 - Premier League highlights, FA Cup live (two a round, first pick, plus replays), Football League highlights, League Cup highlights
2015-21 - Premier League highlights, FA Cup live (two a round, first pick, plus replays)
2021-24 - Premier League highlights, FA Cup live (two a round, some first picks, plus replays)
2024- - Premier League highlights, FA Cup live (two a round, picks tbc), Champions League highlights
Plus you can add the WSL and Women's FA Cup to that which is taking on increased prominence, and the tournaments of course. In the Radio Times article to mark the return of MOTD in 1992, Des Lynam is quoted as saying the Beeb's football portfolio was "stronger than ever" and I suppose at the time it would have been quite impressive, certainly they were on every week and in those days the FA Cup was still a big deal and all the big teams took it seriously. 1997-2001 was a bit of a low point, and at the turn of the century they were desperately scrabbling around for anything that wasn't nailed down. 2004-08 seemed amazing at the time, it was obviously during the Beeb's imperial phase when they had, as an exec from another broadcaster had it, "jacuzzis of cash", but they had absolutely tonnes of live football, including England friendlies and FA Cup replays which had never been live on a regular basis on FTA TV before.
But I would say that the portfolio from next season is pretty impressive, I know most of it is highlights alone but they'll have loads of content and it'll be fascinating to see what they can do in terms of online, they've said the Premier League will have "enhanced" digital rights so presumably they'll be able to do a lot more with it on the website and so on. And I think in terms of the Beeb's finances and the competition, that's absolutely as good a football offering as they could have got. I know you can argue coverage of other sports has decreased a bit (or in some cases, a lot), but football is the number one sport by miles and I think it's absolutely vital that a serious sports broadcaster has as much quality football as possible.
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VAR lines not shown - I know VAR check everything but play restarted pretty quickly so they can't have taken much time on it.
I froze the replay as best I could and De Bruyne looked marginally offside - although of course I may have frozen it very marginally too late.
I assume the goal-line camera was more conclusive, albeit we didn’t get to see it.
Funny you should say that I thought De Bruyne looked offside too
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I guess he wasn’t otherwise more fuss would have been made ?
Although wouldn’t be the first missed offside decision at Spurs this season !
Yes, I think this is where the semi-automated is really needed.
From the main camera we saw, De Bruyne's body looks ahead of his feet and they would draw the dotted line down ahead of his feet.
But using the goal line camera, they (generally) wouldn't do the dotted line at all and his feet would be used.
I've always been suspicious of the dotted line exaggerating how much the upper body is ahead of the feet so would always prefer the goal line camera in this situation.
But of course the semi-automated is what is really needed.
I might be misunderstanding your point, but no matter which camera is used it would still be the same body part they would use for offside - whichever one was furthest forward.
The dotted line is also just for show, to illustrate which body part was used. If you watch footage of them placing the lines, the dotted line goes in after the pitch line is “locked in”.
Many thanks as always - I have the greatest respect for what you say based on your outstanding track record but all I would say is that they are looking at 2D pictures and it often looks very different from different angles.
When the camera is ahead of the player (ie goal line camera in this instance) I've very rarely seen the pitch line (thanks for the correct phrase!) be placed anywhere other than through the most advanced boot because it's impossible really to read down from a higher body part.
In contrast, the higher body part is very often used when the camera is behind the player (ie nearer halfway line).
Maybe I'm wrong but it seems to me that the use of 2D is such that the current system cannot be perfect.
But whatever, thankfully we won't need to worry about this for much longer!
He's likely right of course and Sky likely won't have Arsenal but deep down they'll be hoping it's another comeback win from Man. City like in 2022 to add a bit of jeopardy and tension into the afternoon.
The system works in 3D - before each game, a 3D model is created using the cameras and the Hawk-Eye system. So even though what we see is 2D, it’s underpinned by a 3D model.
I haven’t paid that much attention to notice any differences between camera angles, but I can’t think why they wouldn’t be able to use a higher body part from that angle. As an angle, it’s essentially no different to that from any other camera that happens to be exactly perpendicular to the touchline.
If we use the example angle on the PL website, I don’t see why they couldn’t place the pitch lines based on the shoulders of both the attacker and defender?
As you say, it’ll all become moot from (part-way through) next season.