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"In today's earnings call, EA CEO Andrew Wilson says he has been playing the next Battlefield game with the development team and it will be a "tremendous live service."
https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1787959893099745615
Definitely expected, but not wanted on my part...
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is this a threat?
Do they want to turn Battlefield into shit?
I mean I remember a point in time where Battlefield was high grade team army first person shooter game. It seems like that is a distant memory now.
I remember there was a time when we wanted to see a Battlefield Bad Company 3 come about, but I feel like that will never happen.
Turn into? It has been for years?
It has been turned into shit a long time ago. Let's be real, out of the last 4 Battlefield games, 3 has been painfully mediocre.
I was going to say how the hell was BF1 "mediocre", but then I remembered BF Hardline was a thing.
Hardline was super fun and even if some stuff didn't make much sense it at least tried new things.
A lot of people like to hate on BF1, but it straight up to me was the most fun and it's for one reason more than any other: the map design. There's a few exceptions, but overall there is such a great flow traveling on foot from one end of the map to the other because there's so many natural breakups in sight-lines both through the trenches and fantastic use of the terrain. BF4 has a serious issue on most maps where you're a deadman walking if you try to walk from point A to point B on foot, you'll either be killed by a sniper, a heli, a tank or a boat from half a map away.
You say that as if EA didn't try that shit with Battlefield before. Anyone remember Battlefield Heroes?
Fun game at its core turned into P2W, money milking nightmare.
Didn't the current director of Battlefield openly admit he doesn't understand what people like about Bad Company 2? They put the suits in charge and they're clueless
Ummm.... someone gonna tell him?
Well you either live long enough to become COD or die as a Medal of Honor
Sounds like one
Why "?" on the end of it and also "is" in a wrong place.
Yeah just like 2042 was a love letter to battlefield fans... Turned out the most barebones BF game ever.
Seriously my favorite quote ever. If you trust these people to make another good battlefield game after having said 2042 was a "Love letter to the fans" you are out of your mind.
Mine would be "We're ahead of schedule".
Love letter to f-ing fans and getting money. Kinda crazy to see them going even further in the obvious wrong direction. Did they even learn anything from 2042 lol
Dont be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes.
That was something, right?
live battlefield fan reaction
Dank comment
Seems we have to be prepared to be kicked in the balls again…
So they didn’t learn a fucking thing. Got it.
Right? Where do they think the goodwill is at in their fanbase?
They're one more bad or even mediocre release away from becoming Ubisoft level of mistrust
Why would they? Unlike the employees, they get millions in bonuses and will still be well off even if the company goes under.
like cant we get battlefield 3 again? like repackage that and sell it to me.
BF3, BF4 and BF1 had such strong fanbases but of course that means fuck all in comparison to live service failures.
like this couldnt be simple enough.. say whatever about battlefield single player but, i believe it inspired how great the MP was.. you already have the blueprint in BF3 and BF4, keep core battlefield, do some maps that are as cool as those and sell it to me! Im willing to pay double for it.
At least according to steamcharts, BFV has the most active player base out of all the BFs rn.
Look forward to playing the full release 15 months after the full release!
i hate these damn live services.
It’s funny because given the extreme popularity of Helldivers 2, there’s living proof that a live service game that isn’t a battle royale can be enjoyable and filled with content.
That's the kicker. Live service itself isn't the problem, it's bad live service.
that's the real kicker though, people write off a game as soon as they hear "live service", look at these comments
because the series/dev lost all goodwill with the shit they’ve been putting out 🤷🏻
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it a million times - every studio wants Fortnite money but none of them are willing to invest what it takes to put out a Fortnite-level service.
Yes, but problem is extremely limited market.
There’s only room for a tiny handful of successful live services.
A Helldivers 2 clone, no matter how good could not currently succeed, unless it was so good it killed the real Helldivers 2.
Live service are like MMO’s, people can only really play one at a time, and convincing them to swap is extremely hard, and usually only possible if their current game fails spectacularly.
Helldivers 2 was incredibly lucky, it was a great game that landed at exactly right time to get massively popular. This would be impossible to re-create for another studio trying to get in on the hype.
Oh absolutely. I’m not saying Dice should go and make a Helldivers 2 clone, but it’s the fact that there exists a live service model where the players thoroughly enjoy the game even though micro transactions do exist.
Those common psychological tactics that studios have been using for the past decade+ to get people to spend money out of frustration or FOMO aren’t in Helldivers 2, and it helps make the game all the better in the community’s eyes.
The key factor is to have enough content at launch. Otherwise ”live service” is mostly used as an excuse for a half-assed release
Don't we all
Apparently not, unfortunately, because people can’t stop buying super hero and weed skins for call of duty.
apparently not
https://newzoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Top-10-PC-and-console-games-by-MAU-in-2023-Jan-through-Oct.png
Maybe controversial, but I think it’s actually nice for paid DLCs with extra weapons and maps to not be a thing anymore.
Go back to BF1 and half the guns are locked behind a paywall. Only one or two servers actually run the DLC maps because a majority of players don’t own them. It creates a segmented community that you don’t get with the live service titles.
Live service isn’t inherently bad. If you’re not buying the cosmetics then you’re getting free extra content that you would otherwise have had to pay for.
Agreed. Live service games are way better than how things were 10+ years ago when you had to pay for all of the map packs. And if you didn't, then you couldn't play on half of the multiplayer playlists. Or when you had to buy an "online pass" every time you buy a used game. Games nowadays are getting content for years on end for free. And if you play Fortnite or Warzone, you can even get premium currency and the battle passes for free if you play long enough.
I think the issue with live service games is that a lot of them suck or have no reason being live service, like the recent Suicide Squad game basically being a half assed single player with a half assed live service component. People (generally) enjoy good live service games (look at MMOs, Fornite, Warzone, Destiny, or Helldivers 2 barring its recent controversy). A lot of those games still have complaints, but a lot of them are due to gameplay/balancing/PSN and not actually about how the live service component is handled.
Nope, completely preferred a situation where i was actually guaranteed great content in waves as opposed to whatever the fuck we have now. With stuff like BF1, all the dlcs became free eventually...
Why? I really don’t understand why this is a bad thing with a game like Battlefield, which has been one step away from it anyway.
The problem is people don’t understand what a live service really is. It’s not necessary going to turn out to be like Suicide Squad but it can also turn out like Helldivers 2. It’s much better to have a live service instead of paid dlcs
I'm pretty sure a multiplayer game with paid DLC would be considered live service nowadays, anyway.
Because people online lack any critical thinking and just repeat "live service = bad" as if it's a universal truth.
There's no world in which a multiplayer game comes out in 2024 without an update plan and is a success.
Just because you’re only one step away from something doesn’t mean you can’t leap the other way
All battlefield games are live service tho
Like, most consumers are now wary of the model, but are investors even encouraged by that statement? Surely they're aware that successful live services are few and far between, and that EA doesn't have a track record of making it work with Battlefield audiences. I just don't get it.
Investors are deeply out of touch gamblers.
investors much like short-term ceo's are merely there to milk as much as they can regardless of the long-term consequences.
They probably use some blockbuster one-of-a-kind live service success case like Fortnite or Genshin Impact to show during their investors meetings and they eat it all up like the gullible, greedy bastards they are.
Isn't battlefield inherently live service, they can't just drop a game, have 2 paid expansions and call it a day. You need constant updates and free maps to keep a game like this alive nowadays
I hate live service games. I hate “seasons”. I hate battle passes. I just don’t like any of it.
Remember how they were talking about how tornados in Battlefield was going to revolutionize that franchise?
I hate it too.
It's either this or 15 dollar map packs with lootboxes
I mean what was wrong with having community servers that allowed custom maps like what kept TF2 and CS popular for years?
I can't believe I'm at a point where I miss season passes. I feel like the quality of multiplayer content has dropped immensely since Fortnite popularised the live service genre.
And yet everyone is playing Helldivers 2
Ea trying there best be like:
Ok this GIF is amazing, lol
Start placing your bets, how many months after launch until they pull support on this?
( ) 3 months
( ) 6 months
( ) 9 months
( ) 12 months
To be fair they only just pulled 2042’s support a few days ago, over two years after the game launched, and made 3 more seasons than they were contractually obligated to
also Battlefront 2, which a lot of people will say EA abandoned got over 3 years of content updates.
I get that it was still gaining a head of steam and there was still more they could have done but dropping support for these games early is not something they're guilty of
And BFV had the same length of support as BF1 got.
15-18 months to prepare for the next BF like they did in the past
Instead of a Dead Space 2 remake we get… this.
They keep throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks
Eh, even shit eventually sticks. They're basically throwing liquid diarrhea by the bucketful and wondering why it keeps going down the drain.
waffle stompin time
Unfathomably common Battlefield L
"It's gonna be the greatest live service game, just tremendous....a lot of people are saying it. Believe me folks, believe me."