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    Codadam02Codadam02 Posts: 332
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    edited 07/05/24 - 20:53 #352
    mr_popquiz wrote: »
    Codadam02 wrote: »
    On the TVRDB website it says that the episodes from 6 September to 15 November are 35 minutes long.

    I wonder if they’ll either be shown as normal or edited versions.

    if you were not aware, they are 35 minutes long due to Muppets Tonight from 7.00 to 7.25pm each week.

    Every show from the 6th September to the 8th November had a flashback section in the middle so that would be the obvious bit to edit out if possible.

    Thank you for informing me. Wouldn’t have known.
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    SarahKSarahK Posts: 1,328
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    aiwacat wrote: »
    Dubstar with what's quite a cracking little record when it's not hamstrung by ropy live vocals.
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    mr_popquiz wrote: »
    Dubstar were an indie dance act from Newcastle - they were formed in 1992 by Steve Hillier and Chris Wilkie. Singer Sarah Blackwood joined in August 1993.

    Not So Manic Now was their 3rd top 40 hit - it was actually a cover version. The song was first recorded by a group from Castleford in West Yorkshire called Brick Supply.

    The song is about an old woman who was beaten in her decaying tower block flat.

    Brick Supply and Dubstar had the same producer - when Dubstar heard the song they wanted to record it themselves and they had the hit reaching number 18.

    Brick Supply were around from 1986 to 2000 but did not have any hits.

    This was the first of 3 appearances in the Top of the Pops studio for Dubstar - we will next see them with their biggest hit, Stars, in March 1996

    I loved "Stars", don't know why it wasn't a bigger hit.

    Their first album (Disgraceful) was very good. It was produced by Stephen Hague who had worked with the Pet Shop Boys, New Order and Dubstar’s label mates, Blur.
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    SarahKSarahK Posts: 1,328
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    Hurrah for Gene finally making it onto TOTP.

    About time too 🙂
    sheff71 wrote: »
    Ooh Gene... fabulous band, love this song and album. Don't think it helped that they were constantly compared to The Smiths/ Mozza...

    I adored them and still do.
    Gene seems to have completely missed me by over the years

    Their lots in this I like

    There’s lots to like @ViewerUpNorth :smile:

    ‘For the Dead’ is on their EP/ b-sides / live album called ‘To See The Lights’.
    I don’t use Spotify but if you do, I’m pretty sure their stuff is on there now. Much of their work is on YouTube too.


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    SarahKSarahK Posts: 1,328
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    Don't think I've heard a Gene song since the mid 90's!

    Always liked their song "Olympian"

    It’s gorgeous 😊

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    GHT234GHT234 Posts: 2,114
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    Friday 24th May:
    7pm - 15/2/96
    7:30pm - 22/2/96
    8pm - 26/5/88
    8:30pm - 25/5/78
    9pm - 12/7/84
    9:30pm - 29/11/84
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl6b/2024/05/24
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    LilacLobsterLilacLobster Posts: 428
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    Just read that the producer/sound engineer Steve Albini has died aged 61. We've heard a lot of the artists he worked with in recent editions of TOTP including Nirvana and PJ Harvey. I don't have the knowledge to explain it but there's a distinctive acoustic quality to everything he did, almost like it's being recorded live in a small room where there's no room for anything but the musicians.
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    TIGHazardTIGHazard Posts: 2,452
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    mr_popquiz wrote: »
    Codadam02 wrote: »
    On the TVRDB website it says that the episodes from 6 September to 15 November are 35 minutes long.

    I wonder if they’ll either be shown as normal or edited versions.

    if you were not aware, they are 35 minutes long due to Muppets Tonight from 7.00 to 7.25pm each week.

    Every show from the 6th September to the 8th November had a flashback section in the middle so that would be the obvious bit to edit out if possible.

    They actually pop up 'original presenter: Noel Edmonds' during that on either the first or second episode. Thank god they decided to not do that in the following ones.
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    mr_popquizmr_popquiz Posts: 27,671
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    TIGHazard wrote: »
    mr_popquiz wrote: »
    Codadam02 wrote: »
    On the TVRDB website it says that the episodes from 6 September to 15 November are 35 minutes long.

    I wonder if they’ll either be shown as normal or edited versions.

    if you were not aware, they are 35 minutes long due to Muppets Tonight from 7.00 to 7.25pm each week.

    Every show from the 6th September to the 8th November had a flashback section in the middle so that would be the obvious bit to edit out if possible.

    They actually pop up 'original presenter: Noel Edmonds' during that on either the first or second episode. Thank god they decided to not do that in the following ones.

    I checked and it was on the 13th September episode when Dennis Pennis introduces Dancing Queen as that show's Flashback - The caption says its from the episode of the 16th Sept 1976 original presenter Noel Edmonds - I don't know why the caption needed to say it was presented by Noel as he did not turn up in the show.
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    Just read that the producer/sound engineer Steve Albini has died aged 61. We've heard a lot of the artists he worked with in recent editions of TOTP including Nirvana and PJ Harvey. I don't have the knowledge to explain it but there's a distinctive acoustic quality to everything he did, almost like it's being recorded live in a small room where there's no room for anything but the musicians.

    BIB: That was exactly his technique. Capturing a band performing in a room and the ambience.
    He didn't like being credited on albums at all. If he was credited, his preferred description of his work was "Recording Engineer", as he detested the term "Producer".
    He also refused to take royalties from artists he worked with, preferring instead to charge a flat-rate fee for the work he had done, even when he worked with Nirvana on In Utero.
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    mr_popquizmr_popquiz Posts: 27,671
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    We saw Wonderwall by Oasis last Friday however I have bad news for Oasis fans.

    Wonderwall has lost its status as the biggest selling single NOT to get to number 1 - that honour has now passed to Mr Brightside by the Killers.

    https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/killers-mr-brightside-UK-biggest-song-not-number-1/
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    James2001James2001 Posts: 74,036
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    God I hate Mr Brightside, can't understand why it's so popular.
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    Col87Col87 Posts: 6,077
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    James2001 wrote: »
    God I hate Mr Brightside, can't understand why it's so popular.

    Because it’s a good song although personally I think the killers have had better songs.
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    edited 09/05/24 - 15:06 #364
    It's just brilliant really. I think one of the reasons it's as popular as it is though is because it's really from the last era when rock was properly mainstream. Virtually no rock records have been as big as this in the last 20 years - with a few exceptions, like "Sex On Fire" and "We Are Young". As a teenybopper at heart, I do think that's sad.
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    Scott_WhittonScott_Whitton Posts: 5,474
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    The good - Jesus to a Child. Timelessly beautiful. George must have really loved Anselmo Feleppa so much to have composed such a beautiful song about just what he meant to him, his one true love of his life.
    I envy that, I've never had that.

    The bad (part 1) - I would humbly suggest that the person who does the captions when the artist appears perhaps should have gone back to school or just picked up and read a map. That way they would have known, for Dubstars origin, that Newcastle is one word not two!

    The bad (part 2) - Two words. Jas Mann. I remember when he burst onto the scene on the back of Spaceman being used in a Levi's advert.
    The arrogant prick really seemed to think he was something special musically and he was on his way to musical dominance. First Britain, then the rest of the world.


    In truth the best part of Spaceman was the part Levi's used in the advert. The rest of it was just dribble.

    Future releases were even worse, and disappeared as quickly as they had come. Proving that Jas Mann was just a legend in his own head.

    This is all rather spot on IMO. The first time I heard Spaceman I thought it was quite good actually and somewhat innovative. However, I quickly tired of it. And as a result, I never bought it then or since. As for Jas Mann, I'm sure I remember watching him being interviewed on one of the Saturday morning kids shows around the time and I was astounded by his arrogance and general sense of self importance which instantly turned me off him.

    Yes I'll third what's been said here. He had that one big hit (largely thanks to the advert), thought he was the new David Bowie and promptly disappeared up his own arse.
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    Glenn AGlenn A Posts: 23,972
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    Spaceman is an odd one, it sounds like an early nineties rave song when it starts with the speeded up vocal, then turns into a rock song after the first 30 seconds. I always quite liked it, but I can't remember anything else Babylon Zoo did.
    I'd say 1996 and 1997 were my favourite years of the nineties as it seemed there was room for everyone from The Spice Girls to Radiohead. iIt did seem as well the cointry had finally shaken off the hair shirt of the early nineties recession and was feeling more confident and optimistic. At a personal level, my life was getting better.
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    sheff71sheff71 Posts: 8,580
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    edited 09/05/24 - 20:56 #367
    mr_popquiz wrote: »
    We saw Wonderwall by Oasis last Friday however I have bad news for Oasis fans.

    Wonderwall has lost its status as the biggest selling single NOT to get to number 1 - that honour has now passed to Mr Brightside by the Killers.

    https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/killers-mr-brightside-UK-biggest-song-not-number-1/

    Is this just based on number of weeks on the top 100 (408)? What was the highest Brightside reached?

    It must be difficult to equate with Wonderwall with streaming involved as well as physical sales, I thought it was based on weeks at number 2 maybe?
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    Glenn A wrote: »
    Spaceman is an odd one, it sounds like an early nineties rave song when it starts with the speeded up vocal, then turns into a rock song after the first 30 seconds. I always quite liked it, but I can't remember anything else Babylon Zoo did.
    I'd say 1996 and 1997 were my favourite years of the nineties as it seemed there was room for everyone from The Spice Girls to Radiohead. iIt did seem as well the cointry had finally shaken off the hair shirt of the early nineties recession and was feeling more confident and optimistic. At a personal level, my life was getting better.

    hair shirt?
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    mr_popquizmr_popquiz Posts: 27,671
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    edited 09/05/24 - 23:12 #369
    sheff71 wrote: »
    mr_popquiz wrote: »
    We saw Wonderwall by Oasis last Friday however I have bad news for Oasis fans.

    Wonderwall has lost its status as the biggest selling single NOT to get to number 1 - that honour has now passed to Mr Brightside by the Killers.

    https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/killers-mr-brightside-UK-biggest-song-not-number-1/

    Is this just based on number of weeks on the top 100 (408)? What was the highest Brightside reached?

    It must be difficult to equate with Wonderwall with streaming involved as well as physical sales, I thought it was based on weeks at number 2 maybe?

    In terms of pure sales, Wonderwall has 1.5 million sales - when the list of the biggest sellers in the UK based on sales only was last updated in November 2023, Wonderwall was the number 34 biggest seller of all time.

    Mr Brightside has 1.066 million paid for sales and is number 143 on the list of best sellers based on pure sales.

    However people don't buy music in the same numbers they did years ago - nowadays people stream music instead - the weekly chart each Friday is heavily weighted towards streaming because that's how people now mostly consume music - on the latest chart week, the total number of paid for sales was just 297,644.

    Taking physical sales and streaming into account, Mr Brightside is the number 3 best seller in the UK but the biggest seller by a song that didn't get to number 1. I am guessing that the top 2 would be by Elton John and Band Aid.

    As for the songs chart performance, the song debuted in June 2004 and its chart run was 10-26-38-60 and that was that.

    In 2005 the chart started to include downloads and in 2014 streaming was added to the mix - over the years Mr Brightside has benefited from downloads and streams to rack up 154 weeks in the top 75 and over 400 weeks in the top 100.

    It's still in the chart today - currently number 71 in May 2024.
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    AcerBenAcerBen Posts: 21,387
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    mr_popquiz wrote: »
    sheff71 wrote: »
    mr_popquiz wrote: »
    We saw Wonderwall by Oasis last Friday however I have bad news for Oasis fans.

    Wonderwall has lost its status as the biggest selling single NOT to get to number 1 - that honour has now passed to Mr Brightside by the Killers.

    https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/killers-mr-brightside-UK-biggest-song-not-number-1/

    Is this just based on number of weeks on the top 100 (408)? What was the highest Brightside reached?

    It must be difficult to equate with Wonderwall with streaming involved as well as physical sales, I thought it was based on weeks at number 2 maybe?

    In terms of pure sales, Wonderwall has 1.5 million sales - when the list of the biggest sellers in the UK based on sales only was last updated in November 2023, Wonderwall was the number 34 biggest seller of all time.

    Mr Brightside has 1.066 million paid for sales and is number 143 on the list of best sellers based on pure sales.

    However people don't buy music in the same numbers they did years ago - nowadays people stream music instead - the weekly chart each Friday is heavily weighted towards streaming because that's how people now mostly consume music - on the latest chart week, the total number of paid for sales was just 297,644.

    Taking physical sales and streaming into account, Mr Brightside is the number 3 best seller in the UK but the biggest seller by a song that didn't get to number 1. I am guessing that the top 2 would be by Elton John and Band Aid.

    As for the songs chart performance, the song debuted in June 2004 and its chart run was 10-26-38-60 and that was that.

    In 2005 the chart started to include downloads and in 2014 streaming was added to the mix - over the years Mr Brightside has benefited from downloads and streams to rack up 154 weeks in the top 75 and over 400 weeks in the top 100.

    It's still in the chart today - currently number 71 in May 2024.

    It's actually Ed Sheeran at #1 now. I think it's a bit daft how they add it all up though. I accept that the weekly chart has to be calculated using streams and sales, but adding them together to come up with a total "sales figure" is silly. They should just keep the all-time sales & streams lists separate. You cannot compare streams to when 5 million people went out and paid £3.99 (or whatever) for the Elton John single.

    1 Ed Sheeran – SHAPE OF YOU (2017) 6,015,000
    2 Band Aid - DO THEY KNOW IT'S CHRISTMAS (1984) 6,000,000
    3 Killers - MR BRIGHTSIDE (2004) 5,550,000
    4 Lewis Capaldi – SOMEONE YOU LOVED (2019) 5,500,000
    5 Wham! - LAST CHRISTMAS/EVERYTHING SHE WANTS (1984) 5,326,000
    6 Ed Sheeran – PERFECT (2017) 5,300,000
    7 Queen - BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY (1975/1991) 5,250,000
    8 Elton John - SOMETHING ABOUT THE WAY YOU LOOK TONIGHT/CANDLE IN THE WIND 1997 (1997) 4,960,000
    9 Mariah Carey - ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS YOU (1994) 4,870,000
    10 Ed Sheeran – THINKING OUT LOUD (2014) 4,400,000
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    James2001James2001 Posts: 74,036
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    edited 10/05/24 - 13:07 #371
    God, Shape of You...that's another god awful song by a godawful artist. Him and Adele have me automatically reach for the off button when they come on (and while GHR not playing 21st century stuff at times feels restrictive, at least it means they don't play them).
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    Glenn AGlenn A Posts: 23,972
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    Glenn A wrote: »
    Spaceman is an odd one, it sounds like an early nineties rave song when it starts with the speeded up vocal, then turns into a rock song after the first 30 seconds. I always quite liked it, but I can't remember anything else Babylon Zoo did.
    I'd say 1996 and 1997 were my favourite years of the nineties as it seemed there was room for everyone from The Spice Girls to Radiohead. iIt did seem as well the cointry had finally shaken off the hair shirt of the early nineties recession and was feeling more confident and optimistic. At a personal level, my life was getting better.

    hair shirt?

    Not the fashion article sometimes worn by punk rockers, but an expression for a hard economic time like the early nineties( the hair shirt of recessoion) as a hair shirt is a prickly uncomfortable piece of clothing.
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    GHT234GHT234 Posts: 2,114
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    BBC Four provisional schedule for Friday 31st May:
    7pm - TOTP: 1996
    7:30pm - TOTP: 1996
    8pm - TOTP: 1980
    8:30pm - TOTP: 1976
    9pm - TOTP: 1984
    9:30pm - TOTP: 1984
    10pm - Cyndi Lauper At The BBC
    10:30pm - Madonna At The BBC
    11:30pm - Phil Collins At The BBC
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    mr_popquizmr_popquiz Posts: 27,671
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    GHT234 wrote: »
    BBC Four provisional schedule for Friday 31st May:
    7pm - TOTP: 1996
    7:30pm - TOTP: 1996
    8pm - TOTP: 1980
    8:30pm - TOTP: 1976
    9pm - TOTP: 1984
    9:30pm - TOTP: 1984
    10pm - Cyndi Lauper At The BBC
    10:30pm - Madonna At The BBC
    11:30pm - Phil Collins At The BBC

    Nicky Campbell and Louise Wener <3<3 will be the 1996 presenters
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    mr_popquizmr_popquiz Posts: 27,671
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    Evening pop pickers !!

    3 hours of Top of the Pops tonight
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    Evening all, just home in time tonight
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