世界首富比爾蓋茲與股神巴非特是基督徒嗎?從國內外貼文看華人洋人教徒的心態！
微軟老闆比爾蓋茲是當今2014年世界首富, 退休時願捐580億美元給慈善事業，巴非特號稱股神，這是大部份的人都知道的，但他們信仰的宗教是什麼，就很少人會瞭解探討。國內基督徒在網文刊登說他們是基督徒的榮光，但美國基督徒卻認為他們是死後該入火湖地獄的無神論(或不可知論)者，。
一個人的信仰相隔二地的認知，怎會如此不同呢?
我們先看國內的網文
http://goo.gl/GuH7lF
比爾·蓋茨答記者問
| 來源：中國天主教信德網報(第233期) 2005-03-15 11:25:18
2001年7月意大利的《機會》雜誌在米蘭創刊前，....，特請世界首富、微軟總裁比爾·蓋茨來寫發刊詞.......... 戴爾·泰勒是美國西雅圖一所著名教堂的牧師。一天，他向教會學校裡的一個班級宣佈：誰要是能背出《瑪竇福音》中第五章到第七章的全部內容，他就邀請他們去 西雅圖的「太空針」高塔餐廳參加免費聚餐會。那是孩子們做夢都想去的地方。但是那段聖經有幾萬字的篇幅，而且不押韻，要背誦全文有相當大的難度。但是有一 個11歲的學生，一天胸有成竹地坐在泰勒牧師面前，從頭到尾，一字不漏地背誦下來，沒出一點差錯，而且到了最後竟成了聲情並茂的朗誦。泰勒牧師不禁好奇地 問：「你是如何背下這麼長的文字的呢？」這個孩子不假思索地回答：「我竭盡全力」。
這個孩子長大後，在他27歲時，已成了一家著名軟件公司的老闆，名叫比爾·蓋茨。
一個自幼熟讀聖經的人，一定更明白聖經的重要內容「愛天主於萬有之上及愛人如己」，即天主十誡。守好前三誡，就是愛天主於萬有之上；...........比爾·蓋茨是基督徒，當然他深知行善是愛人如己的必然
比爾蓋茨為什麼會捐出全部身家？
歸正福音網
http://goo.gl/VlOkUm
.......... 比爾蓋茨從小就是在教會學校讀書長大的，是一個虔誠的基督徒，他在11歲的時候就能一字不差的背誦《馬太福音》5-7章；巴菲特也是一位基督徒，他在每年 的《給股東的一封信》裡面幾乎都會引用聖經中的話語；在他們的心目中，他們所有的財產都是上帝委託他們管理的，當他們離開這個世界的時候，這些財富必須交還給上帝，用到上帝所需要的地方。
「凱撒的物當歸給凱撒，神的物當歸給神」（馬太福音22：21），比爾蓋茨作為上帝所揀選的財富管理者，當他的使命完成時，他便將自己替上帝所管理的財產交還給上帝了。在他看來這是理所當然的，即使是他自己也沒有資格去浪費上帝交給他管理的財產。
這就是他能夠做出把財產全部捐獻出來的理由所在。
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但國外基督教網站
會見幾個富有的無神論者
Meet A Few Rich Atheists!
http://goo.gl/qr8jmW
蓋茨比爾 Bill Gates微軟創辨人兼CEO，在1995年11月接受美國公共廣播公司PBS採訪，由David Frost 大衛·弗羅斯特主持。下面是編輯小抄
弗羅斯特:你信耶穌的登山寶訓嗎?
蓋茨:我不信，我不像有些定期上教堂的那些信徒，基督教的具體要素的一些事有些不是我很能相信的，但宗教而言(指許多宗教)在道德方面有許多優點，我認為它可以有一個非常非常積極的影響。
弗羅斯特:我有時會問人說，你相信有一位神，或你知道有一位神嗎?而你卻說你不知道嗎?
蓋茨:在處事方面，我對事情的發生與為何會發生，我採用比較科學的方法，我不知有沒有神存在，但我認為宗教原則相當有效。
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滾石雜誌2014年3月27日摘下的訪問片斷
問:你是科技專家但有許多與你(成立的)道德心靈方面的基金會工作有關，過去幾年來你有沒有改變對有關(基督教)宗教價值的想法？
答:對宗教心靈道德系統，我想是超級重要的，我們養育小孩用宗教方式，他們上我太太的天主教會且我也參加，我曾很幸運，因此，我有責任試著減少這世界的不平等，這就是一種宗教信仰。我的意思是，它至少一種心靈道德信念
你信神嗎?我同意理查德·道金斯(著名的無神論者)這類的人所說的人類感覺需要創造的神話在我們真正開始了解疾病和天氣之類的東西，對這些我們尋求虛妄不實的解釋，現在科學已經取代了一些過去宗教用來填補的領域 - 當然還不是全部 - 。
這世界的神秘與美丽絕對讓人驚奇，但還沒能用科學來解釋如何發生。
若說是隨機產生，你知道這似乎有點太嚴苛了(笑), 我想信神要有意義的話，就端看你決定過怎樣不同的正確生活，這我也不知道
Bill Gates: The Rolling Stone InterviewYou're a technologist, but a lot of your work now with the foundation has a moral dimension. Has your thinking about the value of religion changed over the years?
The moral systems of religion, I think, are superimportant. We've raised our kids in a religious way; they've gone to the Catholic church that Melinda goes to and I participate in. I've been very lucky, and therefore I owe it to try and reduce the inequity in the world. And that's kind of a religious belief. I mean, it's at least a moral belief.
Do you believe in God?
I agree with people like Richard Dawkins that mankind felt the need for creation myths. Before we really began to understand disease and the weather and things like that, we sought false explanations for them. Now science has filled in some of the realm – not all – that religion used to fill.
But the mystery and the beauty of the world is overwhelmingly amazing, and there's no scientific explanation of how it came about. To say that it was generated by random numbers, that does seem, you know, sort of an uncharitable view [laughs]. I think it makes sense to believe in God, but exactly what decision in your life you make differently because of it, I don't know.
This story is from the March 27th, 2014 issue of Rolling Stone.
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1996年一月13日沃爾特·艾薩克森在時代雜誌封面上對蓋茨作一側寫
艾薩克森:對人的靈魂，你認為是不是有什麼特別意見，甚至認為是神聖的，？
蓋茨:對這方面我沒任何證據，
艾薩克森寫著"蓋茨臉上即刻面無表情"他的高聲調已轉平，且將手臂交叉 在腹部且習慣似的前後用力搖晃，活像模仿在微軟圓桌會議上的忘形大師
蓋茨:只是在時間資源的分配方面，宗教並不是很有效率，在禮拜天的早上我可以另做很多事情
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金融巨鱷~喬治·索羅斯George Soros
這億萬富翁與慈善家在1998年12月20日60分鐘新聞雜誌電視上的側寫如下
記者史蒂夫克羅夫特：:你是宗教人士嗎
喬治·索羅斯：:不
史蒂夫克羅夫特：你信神嗎?
喬治·索羅斯:不
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股神沃倫·巴菲特Warren Buffett億萬富翁、金融家，無神論者和商人
以下是摘自 - 巴菲特：一個美國資本家的創造者，作家:羅傑·洛溫斯坦（雙日出版社，1995年） ，第13頁...「他沒描述家庭的宗教，即使在很年青時，他也只注重數理邏輯，而避開宗教信仰，他採納了他父親的倫理基礎，他不相信一個看不見的神 」
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What is True Success?- Jesus is Savior
http://goo.gl/5LxDGZ
什麼是真正的成功？耶穌是救主
By David J. Stewart | September 2007
Mark 8:36「人就是賺得全世界，喪失自己的靈魂，有什麼益處呢？」
我最近在PBS公共電視上看到比爾蓋茲與股神巴非特接見一批大學生，這世上最富有的二個人並排坐著，面對者這些學生大窮人回答與分享他們的成就，電視上出現比爾蓋茲與家人住在華盛頓州的1億1千900萬的豪宅照，他每年付出的稅就比大多人支付全家的費用更多，他是從微軟發跡的，而巴非特則是從可口可樂與其他公司抄股起家，依世俗的標準他們除財大氣粗外，也不能算是有任何成就的人，但是，也不能取走一毛錢(按:指死後)..........提摩太6:7說:來時手空空，死時手也空空。
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爾蓋茲與巴非特二人都是不可知論者，他們說不清礎有沒有神存在，任何人怎能想像，二個成功的人竟然不像我們，竟沒能發現神呢！羅馬書 1;20~22:『自從造天地以來，神的永能和神性是明明可知的，雖是眼不能見，但藉著所造之物就可以曉得，叫人無可推諉。因為，他們雖然知道神，卻不當作神榮耀他，也不感謝他。他們的思念變為虛妄，無知的心就昏暗了。自稱為聰明，反成了愚拙』』
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我不能想像一個人會如此笨到去質疑明顯存在的神 ，詩篇19:1`3『諸天述說神的榮耀；穹蒼傳揚他的手段。這日到那日發出言語；這夜到那夜傳出知識。 無言無語，也無聲音可聽。』，只有心甘情願無知的傻瓜會質疑一個神聖的，無所不能的神的存在;
巴爾蓋茲與巴非特....成功嗎?不行的！我不願為了擁有全世界的錢，而同他們一樣，未來將進入火湖地獄處境。
真正的成功的人必須信神，希伯來書 第十一章6:『人非有信，就不能得神的喜悅；因為到神面前來的人必須信有神，且信他賞賜那尋求他的人』..........『神是稀有的神，他送他的獨生子為我們的罪而死』，..........有錢人否定救世主，懷疑神也就是神的兒子.....這些否定耶穌的，也是否定他是基督的說謊者，他們是反基督， 否定父神與聖子，我不想太刻薄，依照聖經的事實，比爾蓋茲與巴非特非英雄，且依聖經的標準，這二人並不是有成就的人
科學所謂的虛假
提摩太前書6:20;[提摩太啊，你要保守所託付你的，躲避世俗的虛談和那敵真道、似是而非的學問，已經有人自稱有這學問，就偏離了真道。願恩惠常與你們同在！] 。
比爾蓋茲說他喜愛採取科學的方式........
1995年他接受PBS公共電視記者大衛·弗羅斯特訪問時說:
在處事方面，我對事情的發生與為何會發生，我採用比較科學的方法，我不知有沒有神存在，但我認為宗教原則相當有效。
科學方式?科學見證神的神聖比任何事更重要，生命是如此精巧。已經構造它，自不可能碰巧發生，在華德迪斯奈歷史頻道有「越過大曝炸」影片，聲稱98%宇宙在大爆炸3分鐘後產生，我的疑問是你見過大爆炸嗎.並成為一些有序，層次分明，並精心設計的?
....不！進化論者都是騙子..，進化論者的「失去的環節」永遠不會被發現，因為它不存在................
像這類的聲明對不信神的聽起來很高貴，但對我們這些[ 重生派基督徒] ., 這只是證明比爾蓋茲死後將入地獄(帖撒羅尼迦後書1:8,9)「，沒有成功的人，這些人將永被投入火湖」(啟示錄20:11-15)，「獲任何好事的人，都是一生接受神的恩典，包括得救」。
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~你們必須重生！~
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依網路::比爾蓋茲~~成功故事
他不信純靠運氣或神的恩典，但靠的是努力工作與競爭力
http://goo.gl/hOyW8M
比爾．蓋茲不信教，他認為自己與宇宙(Universe)相處很好，他認為對人類頭腦的著迷探索和驚訝的發現喜悅，也幾近宗教信仰，人信仰創造， 信仰大宇宙，信仰探索大宇宙的創造性的人腦活動，人類還有比這種信仰更富有創造的原動力嗎？人類還有比這種信仰更為出世，更為神奇的理想嗎？
當採訪他的記者問他，是否有一個神祉在支配他，他一下子變得肅穆起來，他喃喃地說，「現在還沒有什麼可以證明此的。(湯本論壇)」
總之
比較下就知華人教會為騙信徒信教，連不信教的二著名人物也敢偽稱是基督徒，而相較信教的洋人，因當事人還活著，若作假見証就易被拆穿，而不敢公然欺騙，則咀咒這二人該下地獄。這就是真相
Meet A Few Rich Atheists!
http://goo.gl/qr8jmW
「...the God in whose hand THY BREATH IS, and whose are all thy ways, HAST THOU NOT GLORIFIED」 (Daniel 5:23).
Bill Gates
Microsoft Cofounder and CEO, was interviewed November 1995 on PBS by David Frost. Below is the transcript with minor edits...
Frost: Do you believe in the Sermon on the Mount?
Gates: I don't. I'm not somebody who goes to church on a regular basis. The specific elements of Christianity are not something I'm a huge believer in. There's a lot of merit in the moral aspects of religion. I think it can have a very, very positive impact.
Frost: I sometimes say to people, do you believe there is a god, or do you know there is a god? And, you'd say you don't know?
Gates: In terms of doing things I take a fairly scientific approach to why things happen and how they happen. I don't know if there's a god or not, but I think religious principles are quite valid.
Gates was profiled by Walter Isaacson in a January 13, 1996 TIME MAGAZINE cover story. Here are some excerpts compiled by the Drudge Report:
Isaacson: Isn't there something special, perhaps even divine, about the human soul?
Gates: I don't have any evidence on that.
「Gates face suddenly becomes expressionless,」 writes Isaacson, "his squeaky voice turns toneless, and he folds his arms across his belly and vigorously rocks back and forth in a mannerism that has become so mimicked at MICROSOFT that a meeting there can resemble a round table of ecstatic rabbis."
Gates: Just in terms of allocation of time resources, religion is not very efficient. There's a lot more I could be doing on a Sunday morning.
George Soros
The multi-billionaire, financier and philanthropist was profiled on the newsmagazine 60 Minutes, broadcast December 20, 1998.
Steve Kroft: Are you a religious man?
Soros: No
Kroft: Do you believe in God?
Soros: No
Warren Buffett
The multi-billionaire, financier, atheist and business man. The following is taken from--Buffett: The Making of an American Capitalist, by Roger Lowenstein (Doubleday, 1995), page 13...
「He adopted his father's ethical underpinnings, but not his belief in an unseen divinity.」
Bill Gates says that he prefers rather to take a scientific approach to things...
In a November 1995 interview on PBS by David Frost, Bill gates stated:
In terms of doing things I take a fairly scientific approach to why things happen and how they happen. I don't know if there's a god or not, but I think religious principles are quite valid. A scientific approach? Science testifies of a divine God more than anything. Life is incredibly delicate, has structure to it, and could not have "just happened." There's a program on Walt Disney's History Channel called Beyond The Big Bang which claims that 98% of the universe was created in a 3-minute period after the BIG BANG! My question is: Have you ever seen anything BLOW UP, i.e., explode, and become something orderly, structured, and well-crafted? No! Evolutionists are liars. The fact that there is NO recorded history prior to the Egyptian empire PROVES that the earth is only about 6,000 years old. The evolutionist's "missing link" will never be found, because it doesn't exist. There are NO primitive forms of man (unless of course you take into consideration idiots like Charles Darwin). In sharp contrast, the Word of God states in 2nd Corinthians 10:5... "Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ." Evolution exalteth itself against the knowledge of God.
Bill Gates is a fool according to the Bible... when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools (Romans 1:20-22). Bill Gates is praised by young entrepreneurs worldwide; yet he is a fool, as is Warren Buffet. No man ought to be esteemed as being "wise" who possesses not the KNOWLEDGE OF GOD. The Bible states... "My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee ... Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God" (Proverbs 2:1,5). The "knowledge of God" begins with the Word of God. The man who rejects or ignores the Bible is a total fool. There is nothing "scientific" about faith, which is why evolution cannot be "science," because it is only a theory accepted by faith, by unbelievers who desperately want to rid their minds of God... "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind..." (Romans 1:28). The same fools, like Bill Gates, who claim they cannot accept the Bible on mere faith, are the very hypocrites who unquestioningly accept the highly speculative theories of evolution.
According to an online article titled Bill Gates─A Story Of Success...
"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" -
I recently saw an interview on PBS. Both Bill Gates and Warren Buffet were being interview by a group of university college students. Two of the richest men in the world, sitting side-by-side, answering questions about their success; yet, they are poorer than poor. It was noted on the TV screen that Bill Gates and his family live in a $119,000,000 home in Washington state! Mr. Gates pays more property taxes on his home each year, than most people pay for their entire home. Bill Gates made his fortunes as the founder and CEO of the Microsoft Corporation. Warren Buffest made his billions from Coca Cola and other companies in the stock market. By worldly standards, there isn't any greater success than to be filthy rich. However, neither of those men can take even one penny of their accumulated wealth with them... "For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out" (1st Timothy 6:7).
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Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are both agnostics, i.e., they say they don't know whether there is a God or not. How can anyone be considered a "success" if they haven't even figured out that there is a God... "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [Greek: acknowledged] him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" (Romans 1:20-22).
I can't think of any bigger fool than a man who questions the very existence of God. Psalm 19:1-3 state... "The heavens declare the glory [Hebrew: goodness] of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard." Only a willingly ignorant fool would question the existence of a divine and omnipotent God. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet... successful? No way! I wouldn't want to be in their Hellbound condition for all the money in the world.
TRUE SUCCESS must begin with faith in God, for Hebrews 11:6 declares... "But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." God is a wonderful God, who sent His only begotten Son into the world to die for our sins (John 3:16). God in Heaven became flesh and dwelt among men (1st Timothy 3:16; John 1:1,14). What a Savior! Yet, rich men deny the Savior. To question the existence of God is to deny the Son of God, which according to 1st John 2:22 makes Bill Gates and Warren Buffet LIARS and ANTICHRISTS. 1st John 2:22 states... "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." I am not trying to be unkind, just Biblically realistic. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are no heroes, and certainly are not successfully by Biblical standards.
"Science" Falsely So-called
"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called" -1st Timothy 6:20
"He does not believe in mere luck or God's grace, but just hard work and competitiveness."
SOURCE: http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/7-19-2004-56835.asp
Such a statement may sound noble to an unsaved person; but to a born again Christian, such a statement is certain evidence that Mr. Gates is going to Hellfire when he dies (2nd Thessalonians 1:8,9). No person is "successful" who is going to be cast into the Lake of Fire forever (Revelation 20:11-15). Everything good received in this life is by God's grace, including salvation.
Conclusion
How do you define success? The Word of God asks the grave question in Mark 8:36... "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" If you were the richest person in the world, it wouldn't bring you you one iota closer to Heaven. Frank Sinatra died, leaving $100,000,000 behind to children's charity. Do you think his money bought his way into Heaven? No way! Frank Sinatra lived a life of unrepentant sin, pleasuring himself in drunkenness, immoral women, and the Devil's music. No amount of money, good works, or charity can atone for one's sins. The only escape from Hell is through the precious blood of Jesus Christ (Hebrews 9:22). Frank Sinatra mocked and ridiculed God's man, Billy Sunday. So many people, like Mr. Sinatra, falsely think they can impress God through their own good works, which is impossible.
Of course, in the case of Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, they refuse to acknowledge the existence of God, thus effectively denying His eternal power and Godhead. Bill Gates and his wife live in a $119,000,000 house, but no house can be a home without God. Although Melinda Gates professes to be a Catholic, she is a devout supporter of Godless abortion and sterilization of poor women. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation contributed $3,000,000 to Planned Parenthood in 2005 alone. How can anyone be a success, who helps murder little babies?
TRUE SUCCESS must begin with faith in the God of the Bible (Hebrews 11:6). True success must begin by trusting Jesus Christ as one's personal Savior (John 3:16-18,36). True success must be centered in obedience to God's Word (John 14:15; 2nd Corinthians 10:5). Apart from the Lord Jesus Christ and the Word of God, there can be NO true lasting success, for the Lake of Fire will be your home (2nd Thessalonians 1:8,9; Revelation 20:11-15). You can keep this ole sinful world and all the pleasures it has to offer, just give me Jesus! You can keep Hollywood and Walt Disney, just give me the Word of God! True success is rooted in one's faith in the Word of God...
"This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success." -Joshua 1:8
Ye Must Be Born Again!
