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"Pre Civilization Stone Age" - Really neat game about evolving your tribe! Tech trees and strategy.

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u/Mizery avatar

Kinda fun. 100 turns isn't enough. You might be able to win on Easy skill if you only aim for building the Palace. I don't think it would be possible on Medium or Hard difficulty.

u/adremeaux avatar

Beat it on hard with 10 turns to spare. It took a string of near-perfect luck, though. On the 5th turn, something will always happen. You need to get the +0.5 food production here. Then, around the 10th turn, there is the possibility of an ice age. Make sure that doesn't happen either.

From there, put your first tech in +forest, your next in +5 population, and your third in tools. Around then, you'll max out at 17/17; fill up your tools and get the first building ASAP. By the time you get your population back up to 27/27, you'll be in the next phase.

From here, concentrate first on population, then worship, then tools. Your goal for the second phase should be to get to 170 people ASAP, then max out worshipers and start stockpiling tech points.

By the time the last phase started, I had 5 points saved up. Grab agriculture so you can get barter, craft and architecture (+500 population limit), then go for fishing. Fishing is the best food spot in the game. Once you've got all fishing slots unlocked, put all of your guys in fishing until its filled up at 170. At this point, start putting extra guys into tech and tools. Put your 2-3 tech points into tools so you can get that maxed out as soon as possible. Tools are what you need to win.

Important notes:

  • Don't bother with weapons

  • If you get an ice age on hard difficulty before late in the game, just reset, you can't possibly win

  • Don't bother with hunting, either. If you get the early boost to forests, it's not worth wasting the tech points.

  • Also avoid clothing, you won't be needing it (naked, yay!)

  • Don't worry overly much about the barbarians. It's fairly rare their attacks to serious damage; 90% of the time you encounter them you can get away with only a few losses. I usually keep my danger in the 15-20% range, depending on current needs.

  • Once you end up with a dearth of tech and your fishing is maxed out and you can't grow your tools fast enough to warrant another point in there, start getting weapons. At this point in the game, you'll be freeing up a ton of dudes to work by doing this.

  • Don't get any buildings except the first two and the palace. Buildings 3 and 4 suck. The 5th building is good, but it requires meat tech to unlock, which you should be avoiding. Buildings 6 and 7 are way too expensive and if you get those you'll never get the palace.

u/t7george avatar

Great advice I nailed it with 14 turns to spare on Med.

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u/SarcasticComposer avatar

Beat it on Medium. Yeah I'm not man enough to beat hard either. The trick I found was to ignore the danger rating. Just throw all your guys into jobs no matter what. even if you've got 90 percent danger you'll make more progress than you lose. Also skip some of the buildings. I did first row then skipped right to palace. Took me till turn 95 I believe.

u/Jessticks avatar

Beat it on hard. Same strategy. I made sure to get the 200+ stoneworkers early on though, and if I hit the pop cap before tech upgrade I would transfer a bunch to stoneworking. Won at turn 95. I did not build the palisades or the megalith, and fishing was my best food producer, although I couldn't put as many as I wanted into it.

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Beat it on hard too, in 93 turns. Similar strategies, but I restarted when something bad happened in the first 20 turns; with an early ice age I think it's impossible.

u/adremeaux avatar
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90 turns here. I challenge someone to beat me :)

You know, it's interesting about the score, now that I'm looking at it, I think I could have gotten a higher score by just hoarding resources and blowing up population and waiting until the last turn. It looks like you get a fifth of your resources as points, and I was pumping out 1.5k a turn, or 300 points. Each turn you have left is only worth 200 points. So I'd have an extra 1000 by the end, not to mention the further points I'd get from tech and population.

Whatever, the real score is how fast you beat it, IMO.

u/easy_being_green avatar

Challenge completed. I'm pretty sure this wasn't optimal play, so I think I can be beat. I definitely think I should have invested less in production when it was small and probably gotten more fish (I got attacked and lost half my fish land so I had to get the multiple final fish upgrades, which I would have considered doing anyway). I finished with a population under 400 because of a few attacks in the end (my threat level was above 90% for most of the game).

Ninjedit: your guide below was very helpful, by the way. My previous run finished exactly on turn 100 (so technically 1 turn short), although that was with a 20-turn ice age from around turn 30-50.

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u/SystemicPlural avatar

That percentage doesn't mean what I thought it meant. I thought it was a percentage chance of being attacked, but it actually reflects the amount of damage they do when they do attack.

Beat it on medium with 15 turns to go, but so much depends on the random bonuses, or losing your best food land when they invade, which seems to be random and not reflected in the danger percentage.

u/Flopsey avatar

I'm not sure this is right, I noticed the percentage in my final ten turns and was racing to get to 20k so I put everyone on prod and my danger was at 70+% (not to mention all the people starving) and I got raided every turn.

u/adremeaux avatar

It's not right. Get them at 90% and they'll attack every single turn. I think your strength (number of people on guard duty) does effect their damage as well, though.

u/SystemicPlural avatar

yes, on reflection it does effect it, but I had it above 30% for ages and didn't notice much difference. Maybe just a very long run of luck.

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u/hobbers avatar

Beat it on medium as well. But kept my danger under 8% at all times. The key was focusing on population in the start to ramp up to max. Then every time you hit max, convert to stone and worship to up the tech. Then once you can research a new max pop, go back to 100% population. Until you've got maybe 50 people or so. Then keep stone and worship maxed at 100%. And optimize pop every time you research a new tech. Beat it on turn 96.

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The trick I found was to ignore the danger rating.

How very Manifest Destiny of you. :p

Seems to me that every time I lose a barbarian encounter I'm basically completely boned considering how far back that puts you in some critical production stat.

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I am not ashamed to say it took me my 2nd try to actually build the palace.

u/verch101 avatar

Took longer than that for me

u/Jezynowka avatar

4th try on easy...turn 98.

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I got a really bad memory leak from the game... anyone else?

besides that it was great

u/DerisiveMetaphor avatar

What are the best other webgames like this?

u/yokhai avatar
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How do you increase population growth? I can't figure that one out.

NVM got it, food production increases pop growth.

Increase your food production (gathering).

u/m0nkeybl1tz avatar

I figured that one out on turn 90 :/

u/yokhai avatar

Yeah i think the key to success is powering out your population, then your culture to get through the tree, then overloading in your stonework.

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would love to know as well

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Also - there's a typo on the TECHS page.

The line for "culture points" on the right should actually say "research points".

Makes a lot more sense after that.

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Fun game but just... I dunno. Feels like there's all these tech trees and in the end all that matters is pumping out tons of food, and upping pop limit. And why would you go for anything but hunting? Which makes getting the farming tech line a chore because its insuperior...

Beat it on my 3rd try, but wasn't satisfying, felt locked into 1 play style and barely got any fun stuff.

Game was sorta meh.

u/adremeaux avatar

Try it on hard and you won't even touch hunting tree...

insuperior

what.

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Click on the help tab down bottom once you start the game for a decent overview of what to do.

u/adremeaux avatar
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15 minutes of fun. Pretty easy though.

edit: I've now spent a good 2 hours on this game. Heh.

u/verch101 avatar

Awesome

Takes a while to figure out whats what...but I enjoyed it.

u/tsaylor avatar

Beat it on medium third time through. Just like Civilization, population is key.

Two hours pasted pretty quickly. Awesome game!