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Why did Terminus decide cannibalism was the way to go when they had crops?

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I know they were attacked and stuff and that lead them to being careful and defensive but how did they get to cannibalism?

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u/HerbalThought_ avatar

The only explanation I see is, it was a ''fuck you'' to the world after they were attacked and raped. Because at that point it was just a year into the apocalypse. There wasn't really a need to resort to cannibalism that early.

They needed meat to go with their veges

A balanced diet for a definitely balanced mind

Survivors: “Are you going to kill us??”

Terminus: “yes, then we’re going to get some mayonnaise.”

Survivors: “why would you need mayon…oh.”

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u/ConnectLab7130 avatar

It was about them never being victims again . They were taken advantage of by an earlier group who they were kind to. So now after regaining power of their settlement, they vowed to never be hoodwinked again , so now any newcomers to terminus would be victims of killing two birds with one stone .. They would protect themselves from possible doom , and cure their hunger at the same time . Gareth told Rick something like “You don’t know what it is to be hungry!” , so I guess crops weren’t the best solution to satisfy their appetite .

Yeah I get the victim thing I just never understood the cannibalism part, thanks for the info :)

Sometimes you have to show someone who’s boss by eating them.

u/47EBO avatar

Zombie Dahmer

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It’s a bullshit reason though. I Don’t buy it at all. That backstory would explain a kill on site approach to outsiders but to have developed in a group of that size into such a systematic and accepted method of hunting and consuming people is not believable at all.

Trauma breaks people in ways that aren’t always logical.

So does shite writing

u/Pale_Boysenberry_140 avatar

Bet you're the kinda person who complains at the writing in my little pony because talking pony's don't exist

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What a terrible take

How insightful

Thanks, go cry over a tv show about zombies not being real enough for you

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I feel like the show and the comics went a different route even though tremendous was not in the comics but they had something similar to terminus but basically the people in the comics couldn't hunt and was wasting ammo on animals so that that's why they went cannibalism in the comics but in the show it does seem like it was a big F u to any that came to their path

Holy runon sentence!

u/univrsll avatar

You didn’t get the message? You can replace a period with “but” these days my man but

ButButBut

u/hpuck1990 avatar

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Lol yep

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u/DestructoSpin7 avatar

Because you can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat.

Something about being the cattle. They are the sheep. Assuming that they got screwed over from being kind. Now it was there turn to be the bad guy. Didn't the claimers stolen terminus food?. Have to eat on something.

Yeah they were saying something about you're either a butcher or cattle but they had crops and could've hunted but I guess humans are tasty

I always thought the claimers were the group who took over Terminus, only they had more people before the ppl at Terminus regained control & the claimers that got away knew they weren't welcome which is why the leader told Daryl that Terminus was a lie & wouldn't accept people like them.

That's interesting to think about. Does the Claimers leader that gets chomped by Rick ever mention they've always been the leader? IIRC there's a scraggly guy that was in one of the shipping crates who was implied to be the leader of the group that jumped Terminus.

I think you're correct on everything. The claimers did had more people. And Gareth did tell that terminus is not what it was supposed to be.

I wondered this too! I also considered. Randall’s group since it sounded like they had a similar M.O. to what happened at Terminus.

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They didn't really have crops, just gardens. You can't keep a large group alive on tomatoes, cukes and corn unless you have acres to grow. Alexandria only had gardens, so they supplemented with scavaging.

The choice to supplement with cannabalism rather than scavaging was most likely a result of having been victimized in the past, and never wanting to be "cattle" again.

They only had a few artificial plant containers to grow stuff. They are surrounded by train tracks or woods (not enough sun for crops). Plus more and more people coming would require more food.

Plus Bob B Q just tastes better and is more filling.

Yeah, they definitely didn’t need to become cannibals at that point. Like maybe a few years in if they had nothing else, a deranged person would consider it. But I feel like the leader would’ve had to be thinking about cannibalism before the apocalypse to make such a leap within a year. And then I guess he persuaded/manipulated everyone else into going along with it, maybe using the cattle analogy and their own trauma of being tortured and raped to convince them.

I believe there are a type of people out there that will have no qualms turning to canniblism if the apocalypse happens.

I'm sure after a winter or two and the lack of wildlife because walkers have been seen to eat animals as well. It's not hard for someone to get pushed toward cannibalistic nature.

If you have a group of distraught and traumatized people, and one of your leaders is a sociopath who wants to eat other people. It's really not hard for that turn to happen. You realize after you murder someone, there's meat that will just rot away if you don't utilize it. Jokes on them because human muscles have almost no nutritional value, it's the brains and some organs that you'd want to eat if you were a cannibal. But a few people is still wouldn't be enough to feed even a small community.

Man’s gotta eat…

And we all know human is the best kinda meat

u/johnpederson589 avatar

Can’t go back bob

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I mean, when your only crops are Fava beans, you need something to go with it...

They’re not going to eat the garnish. They’re not animals.

They weren't vegan 😂

u/Primus42 avatar

What else are you going to put on pizza?

u/redactedname87 avatar

This just reminded me of the scene where they’re eating bob, and he taunts them about eating tainted meat.

But what we know from the show is that everyone is tainted meat because everyone turns when they die. So that part in hindsight is kind of silly.

u/green_helix avatar

One of the things severely overlooked in the world building of twd is the sheer amount of land required to sustain a modern western diet…especially when it comes to meat. By most estimates you need around 2/3 of an acre per person to maintain a vegan diet, and up to 9 acres per person if you want animal based protein. Considering that Terminus if in a deserted train yard with no room for animal fields, it kinda makes sense that Human meat has become an option.

Coupled with the Termites philosophy of “us first always” or “you’re the butcher or the meat”, and the notion that learning to farm would probably be a hit and miss affair for at least a few seasons (remember the terminus arc takes place only 2/3 years after the fall) , the Termites going cannibal kinda makes sense.

There is something seriously wrong with you, trying to justify murdering people to eat them... There are other ways, hunting, fishing... Hell, even eating boiled zombie flesh... I would rather die starving than commit something so evil...

u/green_helix avatar

I’m not trying to justify cannibalism, just trying to explain how such an option could be considered feasible for a morally bankrupt group of sociopaths.

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u/bloodyturtle avatar

they were allergic to gluten

It’s like a “kill two birds with one stone” situation for them.

They can kill and protect themselves from potential threats and then also ‘harvest’ from said threats. We don’t really know the extent of torment they went through. We only got to see and hear about some of it. So they were likely extremely traumatized to the point they went overboard

u/joeholmes1164 avatar

For me... the story of people raiding them and changing them was lame. I'm not sure that I believe people would just change like that. It would have been better if they were just straight up murdering bastards who put on a front and liked to kill and eat people.

twd bad writing

In this Thread: people who haven't seen all of the postcredit scenes

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Which ones are you referring to?

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They could eaten bugs, don't think the chitlin matters if the alternative is soylent green.. Should've asked Dr Bill Gates, I'm sure he survived the zombie apocalypse in his Redmond bunker.

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Terminus never really made a lot of sense to me. In the real world, cannibals tend to be individuals with severe mental issues (ex. serial killers), people who are starving and really desperate for food, or (in the past) cultures that did it for ritualistic reasons, on a limited and structured basis. Humans tend to have a natural revulsion towards eating others of their own species, so it is a pretty uncommon phenomenon, even in the distant past.

It could be argued that the Terminus folks were desperate for food, but they really shouldn't have been. People in their situation would more likely focus on hunting and eating animals that wouldn't have been easy targets for Walkers, like things that fly, live in trees, live in water, are small, or burrow. Birds, squirrels, insects, fish, and other such creatures are not that difficult to catch.

The trauma/revenge angle might hold for a couple of people, but it would be unusual for an entire group to overcome their natural revulsion for eating other humans on that basis, particularly since they would be aware of the health risks of doing so.

My personal opinion is so that there's less walkers. Eat the people before they turn yea?

Gonna turn anyway, might as well get a head start on the eating people business

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When they were attacked by letting everyone in. They got some horrible people come their way. Then they decided that if the people who came wouldn’t work with them and eat people then they would be the food. They were pushed to be like that. Crazy people!

They didn’t know how to hunt.. the main guy looks like he probably worked as a barista for Star Bucks before the apocalypse. The new world Made them nuts.

They were all for eating humans but drew the line at going vegan! Lol but seriously after the torture & rape the other group put them through, I think they snapped, regained control somehow & took the "eat or be eaten" saying literally & it became their motto. Either you joined them or became their next meal.

They probably fed any newcomers, told them exactly where their meat came from after telling them the horrors they suffered when another group came in & took the place, then gave them a choice. "Help us capture people so we can all eat & never become victims again, or become what we eat".

As far as we know, by the time they regained control of the compound from the rapists, they were so angry & starved, they ate the rapists & that's where the Cannibalism began. Or the rapists forced them to eat their own people & when they found a way out, they gave the rapists the same treatment.

I think was more about having a consistent source of food and supplies. Anything they used when new people came was resupplied by the newcomers.

Played a game of truth or dare and after one of them had to eat somebody for a dare they said it tasted good so they all tried it and turned to cannibalism lmao /j

u/wiff_waff avatar

You don't make friends with salad.

Coz Cannibalism was the only brutality that was missing. They showed deception with the governor, wicked violence with Negan, power hungry crap later so cannibalism was the only brutality left