All things related to The Witcher - books, games, TV... You name it. The Witcher is a critically acclaimed fantasy book series created by Andrzej Sapkowski. The series follows Geralt of Rivia, a monster hunter in a universe where people often prove more wicked than beasts. Though originally written in Polish, the franchise gathered a large international following from likewise acclaimed game adaptions by CD Projekt. The books now translated into a dozen languages have also been adapted for TV.
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This may be a good opportunity to reiterate how this subreddit strongly condemn any kind of death threats or other harmful personal attacks.
Lauren and her team owe fans of The Witcher a response, so take your opportunity to do so. Feel free to voice your critism, but always do it in a respectful manner.
Death threats are wrong and anyone who sends them should be ashamed of themselves.
As for Hissrich replying, she dodges the questions about Cavill leaving, or gives an non-answer.
Lauren also claims in the comments, that she hasn't heard about DeMayo's claims about her writers room hating the source material. Which means, she's lying or Netflix's team responsible for social media are really bad at their job.
The reason for Cavill's departure from his passion project has been the subject of many Youtube videos, with millions of views. And plenty of articles as well, like the one on Forbes. If Lauren has somehow missed THAT, she truly is living in a bubble.
I'm surprised she's even replying. I would just issued a short statement and then be a wall of silence and wait for it to blow over.
She’s turning the failure of the show on the fans. ‘The Witcher’ is a dumpster fire due to her. However, she is flipping the script that it’s now the FANBASE’s hostility and not understanding HER direction and thats how the show hasn’t been well received and the show’s star is leaving his passion project after only a few seasons. Typical Hollywoods tactic and they’re all the same with this. She’s in damage control and a hack writer, so time to deflect and salvage her next payday on another project.
*shooting yourself in foot* - LOOK I'M THE VICTIM HERE!
How about you don't shoot yourself in the foot Lauren and give the people what they want!
Except that some idiot, somewhere, will believe her. And you'll have to deal with them angrily spitting nonsense.
Probably one of my most unpopular opinions but I think it situations like these, the hugely blanketed term ‘death threats’ can be scapegoated to dismiss very valid criticisms as well. Now it’s making valid criticizers have to be much more delicate to further separate themselves from very low effort trolls , cuz now the only thing uoull hear is “x has received death threats “ (and even though it’s shitty to say, I don’t think “I hope they’re hit by a bus is a death threat” )
Honestly this screams of.
'I know better than all of you plebs, I am making a masterpiece here and the source material is no good'
Then after fans tell her its shit.
'I feel so attacked, I can't handle the criticism, you are just too stupid to understand my vision. Please watch it!'
I wasn't a major book Fan, nor particularly an avid game fan before this but boy if I was i'd be pissed. It feels like she caught herself just before she claimed all the haters must be ists and phobes lol.
That would be the smart thing. Moreso when she's replying because she's taking the glory for BO when it's not even supposed to be her show.
Keep your head down until S3 and let the actual showrunner get any plaudits (or not) for the show.
I like how she threw DeMayo under the bus over the Eskel episode. Back during post-S2 q&a she was definitely taking credit for using Eskel and the resulting Witchers character interactions (which they mostly cut).
But, by the by, I note in one reply she says "I still have faith people are going to take two hours of their lives to watch the series."
Going from 6 filmed episodes to two hours. Genuinely, how bad was it before?
Bad enough for Netflix to mandate a complete restructuring of the show. And Netflix puts out some horrible shows. That should speak volumes.
The volume is also oddly high over how proud she is being something that they effectively lost control over.
I don't think I've seen any 'creative' so pleased over a corporate product.
Suggests her future and maybe even the future of the show are under threat tbh.
(More so than it already is with Cavill gone)
What do you mean?
6 episodes? Why do they always make these show so limited? Heck Outlander and Vikings has sometimes 10-20 episodes each season!
No wonder this show went down the drain with a writer that believes they are creating a masterpiece and anyone who criticizes it is wrong. This writer really takes the 'taking constructive criticsim' to a next level.
I remember when 20+ episodes a season was the norm for TV shows.
It didn’t stop me enjoying Outlander however, ok let’s say not 20 but 9-10 episodes is what I want.
Which resulted in a LOT of filler. I like it when shows respect my time.
In the UK 6 episodes of a series is the norm, and we've had some absolute belters with 6 episodes to them. If they can't do 6 episodes right would you want 10-20, with most of them just being padding and random sex scenes to drag out the lack of content the episodes actually contain?
In the UK shows are mostly written by a single writer or duo. Helps a lot with consistency of vision, story, and characterization.
Can you recommend me some shoes with limited episodes? I would be interested to check it out
8 episodes was mentioned when it was first announced. If they couldn't create a good enough story for more than 2 hours what makes you think they'd have enough for 10 episodes let alone 20!
They have a story that is good enough for 10 episodes easily, just not with her butchering the source material every step of the way.
If only there were a bunch of books they could use as direct reference material.
Please no. The 20 episodes per season is a trend I'm glad is not mandated anymore. So many good shows were plagued by bullshit procedural nonsense and fillers just to fill up airtime.
I would rather a show be highly focused and not waste my time. It's also a better overall work environment for the actors not to work insane hours.
20 episodes is probably when we get an entire episode dedicated to fetching a pan.
That is also a good point. Longer episodes can be a lot of filler but I have watched Korean dramas that are historical and they go to 20, but they have a great emphasis on story. There is filler. The least I have seen is till 14-16.
I don't think more episodes is always a good thing. Vikings is good but did become inconsistent in quality for a while.
I called her on it right under that comment. Crickets.
Not the hero we need, but definitely the one we're stuck with.
The problem is that it's not a question she can answer. The only answer we'll get is "Henry's reasons are his own and not for me to share."
She can however answer all the criticism levelled against the writing team and overall show quality and story, compared to the source material.
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. . .
I agree, unfortunately, death threats to actors/executives are becoming more and more widespread. Think about The Last of Us and Laura Bailey.
However, Lauren not replying and lying in the replies she does give is disgusting and outrageous. Fuck her. Death threats are unacceptable, but I do hope she's fired, forever blamed for this whole mess and never given any serious role in Hollywood ever again.
While I don't doubt that that's the case, it's pretty clear that a growing number of publicly posted threats are from people lying about death threats to deflect criticism or garner attention. It's tricky, because death threats are actually pretty common. We just don't tend to think about them. It's as simple as some rando user writing "I'm gonna fuck your mom and kill u" in a reply. Hell, I'd bet that everyone on the internet has received at least one death threat. But no one takes them seriously because... well it's the internet. Everyone gets death threats. Emotions run high and it's way too easy to type some vile shit and hit send. For the most part we recognize it as what it is: empty shit talk. Some users might get pissed and write some vile shit back, some may report it to the mods, and some just move on. Now imagine being even a little more popular. Showrunners probably get death threats even if their shows are popular. But it's only during these flashpoints of criticism that anyone ever talks about death threats, when it's useful. It's almost like it's used as a tool to get people to back off and put their kid gloves on. As if to say "You, critical viewer/fan who is complaining, you're supporting these threats by complaining. That makes you just as bad! Defend me too prove you're not evil!"
How do you know a death threat is serious? Here's a tip, when it's serious you don't hear about it on Twitter.
Right they are becoming more widespread but if that’s a legitimate concern and she is actually scared enough to not be on social media…which is highly doubtful, then she needs to report the incident to the proper authorities and have something done. I know it’s common these days but it’s also used as a publicity stunt to get attention. Hard to know with her putting some proof out there or have any official reports taken.
What's your evidence that death threats are becoming more widespread? Public facing people have always received death threats. It's an unfortunate inevitability of huge groups of humans knowing who you are.
Well, it's simply easier to do these days. Back in the day if you wanted to send a death threat to someone you had to physically send a letter or walk to their faces and say "I will kill you".
Now you just hop to twitter or instagram or whatever and you can spam death threats over and over again with complete anonymity. A single dedicated troll could use a bunch of accounts to send various death threats, so it really only takes a single schizo make a person feel like they are being bombarded.
You can code a bot to tweet "I'll kill u moferfukr" 1000 times from 1000 accounts pretty easily, or pay 5 bucks to a Chinese click farm to do it for you.
She's using the "I'm the victim card" to deflect any criticism. Yes it's disgusting, but if you have any kind of fame I think it is to be expected sadly (shouldn't be like this but it is).
People like her are extremely common these days, people creating their own bubbles and living in them acting as if their bubbles are “fact, truth or even reality.” In her world she does no wrong.
We should all be super proud of her for “venturing out again…” hahaha what a joke. Opening up your social media is not brave or courageous. You’re a public figure you signed up to be in the spotlight. Answering fans and directly addressing legitimate concerns is brave and courageous.
Edit: Yes, death threats are absolutely ridiculous. People shouldn’t received those over a fictional show. I am a long time Witcher fan books then games and everything else but death threats…really!? And that’s if she really did receive them…
Oh I have no doubt that she received them. Fans have sent death threats to celebrities for far less. People are crazy dude.
Death threats are too common online, hell even I've received them and I'm nobody, just beat some random at a game...
I've seen them on tweets, YouTube videos, people's Instagram... it seems like it's the go to response for idiots and scumbags when they find literally anything they don't like.
This, anyone and everyone who is a celebrity will get death threats for anything and everything. It's just the nature of the media.
You’re very right
I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that she has received death threats. Fucking voice actors have received death threats because they didn’t dub a character the “right” way and bullshit like that, people online have absolutely no accountability or decency
For exemple I've hear Taxi Driver actors were almost murdered several times for even being in the movie (even Jodie Foster who was still very young and who had a quite minor role) so I guess it's not at all surprising. People are just going too far for these things, but even if no one ever told her it's impossible she could not know that so much people hate what they did with the show if she really is on social media or even on the news, and after all it's your job as a Showrunner to know what people think so you can change it for the better and hope everyone does not stop watching next season.
it's called narcisism
Anyone who sends them should be charged with threatening behaviour.
Using death threats as a way to win sympathy is also shameful.
She's lying. The main actor left which naturally causes uproar and anything to do with the Witcher (books, games or TV) is talking about it. There is no way at all she doesn't know.
Shitty public people and hiding behind death threats to avoid addressing criticism, name a more iconic duo.
I really think that the reason she brings up death threats here is just to divert people’s attention away from the main topic in order to dodge the question. Works every time for her I see.
All this chick is good at is PR talk. Expecting an apology from someone who thought putting that fat drunkard in S2 as a response to fan criticism was a good idea is foolish. Playing the victim will be her way out.
Lauren does not deserve death threats, or violent responses.
Lauren DOES deserves all the criticism in the world for this colossal failure.
I agree, but thinking that she could do better than the original writers deserves some kind of backlash.
Absolutely. I hope she gets fired. Blacklisted. She’s an imbecile and is ignoring all the backlash and complaints.
People that do that kind of shit just ruins the deserved criticism that these showrunners and decisionmakers have coming to them. For god's sake, stop threatening people over fiction. Just be a normal fucking human being.
Yeah, for God’s sake let us criticise her without being associated with you psychopaths threatening her.
This is the most unfortunate part. Media and a ton of idiots often lump everyone in with the death threat psychos by saying “X Fans send death threats to X creators.” They don’t specify that it’s a very small amount of maniacs and ruin every other critiques value
I mean I'm sorry that she's receiving death threats but she didn't answer the bloody question 💀
Thats because shes so excited.
she forgor
spoken like a politician
Did she “kinda forget”?
People in America are quite excited.
Death treats are a new way for Hollywood to dodge any criticism of their work. They just mention it and suddenly become poor victims who need to be pitied, who never did anything wrong.
Like death threats on social media mean anything anyway. I recieved a death threat once, years ago for correcting someone's spelling for crying out loud!
yet you are still alive
another Hollywood secret
I received death threats for saying I disliked a kpop group.
Seriously. I used to get death threats every day on Xbox live. Welcome to the internet. People call you racist shit and threaten your life. It sucks ass.
Yeah I gotta say at this point in the internet just a vague death threat isn't exactly breaking news
I got full on doxxed with a death threat for telling a witch on tiktok the chemical reactions that turn sugars into alcohol into vinegar in their comment sections
It's like a 10% chance any time I respond to a local news account on Twitter that I'll get one
We live in an online culture saturated and utterly desensitized to violence that this is the norm. It sure as hell isn't good, but I would still be absolutely shocked to find anyone famous on the internet that doesn't ever receive death threats
Because she's playing the trick where she amplifies the death threats and uses it as an excuse to not interact with the fans and call the fans a bunch of toxic -ists and -phobes; despite those sending mean things are an extremely small minority.
Thats because shes using the death threat card to avoid any actual discussions
Classic deflection.
Because she is using it as an excuse to dodge questions she has no real answers for
It's a pretty well established playbook.
Receive criticism.
Characterise said criticism as sexist/racist/homophobic.
Make vague references to death threats.
Refuse to engage substantively with any of the legitimate criticism levelled.
Claim victimhood. Smear fans as bigots.
Have sympathetic friends in media write one-sided puff pieces which vindicate your position entirely and denigrate your detractors.
Repeat.