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All Legendary Lords and how heavy they can lift
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Settra has like super strength I think he's probably higher than that
He's S6 on table-top.
For reference, Archaon is S5
Isn’t Greasus also super strong, like S10 with his scepter while Kholek is only 8?
Greasus is S6 base as well iirc.
Kholek's hammer also gives him S10 iirc.
Starcrusher's special rule was Multiple Wounds (D3) instead of a Strength boost.
A great unclean one is s6 lol settra is crazy
Also grimgor is s5 so...
In Old World or Fantasy Battles? If the later, where can I check the stats they had?
Settra would just command the land ship to be raised and tossed at his enemy.
Back when the cataclysm spells were in Tabletop, the Lore of Nehekara had a cataclysm spell that (lorewise) temporarily restored the army to their living prime. And Settra was DISGUSTING strong with that. Nehekaran royalty was apparently just built differently.
Yeah, ancient Nehekarans were all blessed by their gods to various degrees. It was a country of Grail Knights to a lesser degree.
I bet Settra in his prime could beat the shit out of Sigmar in a duel.
You know all those insane conspiracy shits about how past humans were all superheroes with magical powers and stuff, and it all boils down to an ethnic mythology of superiority? Like Hyperborean man, Yakub and the Black race, Xianxia stuff that echoes Chinese myth...
Settra is all of those but unironically. In Nehekara peasants ate food that wasn't processed and it made them all 8 feet tall and live to 130. Those guys were INSANE, and Nagash exterminating them was probably the single most devastating act in the setting for long-term destabilization.
Settra The Imperishable can lift the World!
Bro dueld multible chaos giants, he has to be stronger
Pretty much all melee characters here, with the exception of maybe non-bretonnian blessed humans, are super insanely strong in lore and can move up 1-2 tiers.
Yup, Vampires and some elves as well. Isabella can easily carry a horse and Malekith too. Also: Azazel is a fucking daemon prince and Morghur a literal god!
Can Slaughter =/= can lift.
TL;DR: Settra strong.
Settra is Strength 6 (which is, amusingly, stronger than the Khemrian Warsphinx that CA let him ride).
There is also a Nehekharan cataclysm spell, Return of the Golden Age, which "restores to the army the vigour and might they enjoyed whilst still alive." This spell gives Tomb Kings +3 Strength. So living Settra is Strength 9, which is stronger than almost every other unit on the tabletop.
Here's a bunch of 8E Strength Value for some characters and units:
Strength 4: Khalida; 7E Morghur; 7E Wargors; human, elf, dwarf, skaven and goblin melee characters (and 6E Grail Knights); orc melee heroes, big' uns and black orcs; non-character saurus; Bastiladon; Great Eagles; Zoats; Wight Kings (including Krell)
Strength 5: Josef Bugman; Malekith; Theodore Bruckner; Ikit Claw; End Times Tyrion as Avatar of Khaine; End Times bullshit Ungrim; all saurus characters (including special characters); 7E Beastlords (including Gorthor and Khazrak); Tomb Kings (including Arkhan but not Settra); ogre melee characters (including Greasus*) orc melee lords (including Grimgor and Azhag); Chaos Lords and Exalted Heroes (includes Archaon, Valkia, Wulfrik, Tamurkhan); all Vampires (including special and generic characters and Blood Knights); Treemen (including Ancients but not Durthu); Great Stags; Young Dragons (including Sun, Carmine); Dragon Ogres (not Shaggoths); Griffons (not Deathclaw); Khemrian Warsphinx; Necrosphinx; regular Stegadon; trolls (including most flavours, not Throgg); 7E Rat Ogres (including 7E Boneripper and ET Stormfiends); War Altar of Sigmar; 7E Jabberslythe
Strength 6: Ya boy Settra; the Glottkin; the Maggoth Riders; Karl Franz Ascendant** ; End Times bullshit Malekith (both versions); End Times bullshit Grimgor; Grimm Burloksson; Throgg; Orion; Durthu; Deathclaw; 7E Doombulls (including Taurox); Necrolith Colossus/Bone Giant; Hierotitan; Dragon Ogre Shaggoth; Giants (including Chaos); Daemon Princes (including Be'lakor); Greater Daemons (including Skarbrand, Ku'gath, 7E and ET Verminlords and Skreech Verminking, but not including Exalted Greater Daemons); "regular tier" Dragons (including Moon, Black, Forest, Chaos, Warpfire; also includes Galrauch and the Imperial Dragon); Wyvern; Ancient Stegadon; Taurus (Great and Bale); Steam Tank; Land Ship; Hell Pit Abomination; Stonehorn; Thundertusk; Colossal Squig; Brood Horror; Shard Dragon; Merwyrm (including Pagowyrm); 6E Cygor; 6E Ghorgon; End Times Enhanced Boneripper
Strength 7: NAGASH; Slaughterbrute; Great Dragons (including Star*** ); Carnosaur; Exalted Greater Daemons (including Exalted Verminlords)****; Toad Dragon; K'daai Destroyer; Elemental Incarnate of Beasts; Necrofex Colossus (Corpse Giant tier); Rock Pile of Gork (or possibly Mork); Sciowyrm
Strength 8: Kholek Suneater; Bonegrinder Giant; Emperor Carmine Dragon; Iron Daemon; Necrofex Colossus (Nightmare Colossus tier); Khemric Titan; Dread Saurian; Rogue Idol of Gork (or possibly Mork)
Strength 9: Emperor Dragons (and a Chaos variety); Great Idol of Gork (or possibly Mork)
Strength 10: Chaos War Mammoth; Emperor Magma Dragon*****
*Greasus is only Strength 5, but his weapon (the Sceptre of the Titans) hits at Strength 10.
**This is Sigmar's spirit wearing Karl Franz as a meat suit in the End Times.
***Minaithnir is here. End Times Imrik is Strength 7 which would be ridiculous for an elf, but End Times gave characters and mounts one combined profile so we can assume Minaithnir is doing the heavy lifting for this value.
****Greater Daemons had pretty dumb balancing. The special character versions had many worse stats than the generic Exalted versions, though at least in this case the generic ones were in a book released after the main army book. This is also the case with the Exalted Verminlord vs. Skreech Verminking (explicitly the Horned Rat's mightiest servant), but Skreech came out after the generic Exalted rat. I blame Forge World.
*****Young, "regular" and Great Magma Dragons align with the corresponding tiers of other dragons, but the Emperor variety is extra strong.
First: thanks i was looking for something like this!
Second: the fuck did the chaos war mammoth do to rate several strength above goddamn incarnations of rage and bloodlust?!
I probably should mention there's quite a lot of heroes, beasts and monsters I didn't include, since the comment is already excessively long.
He's a big lad
most of this list is wildly underselling the LLs in question.
Isnt bro made up of bones and shi?
Only bones, no skin, organs or muscles = no muscle pain when lifting.
Settra has just reached ultimate gym bro stage.
This is what happens if you do nothing but eat protein and and wear tank tops for 15,000 years
The final form of the bodybuilder
Yes, but that stuff was excellent conserved, and Settra was a beefcake of a man in ancient times, even as mummy on the TT he had the same strength as Ogre tyrants and giants.
Yeah, but this is a land of magic and etc, so you can’t just base it on muscle mass (or lack thereof).
Under rating vampire strength. Isabella lifts.
Vampires has some serious strength in WH lore. Both Isabella and Mannfred are up there with Vlad in lift a horse territory. Lifting a human with one hand is trivial for any vampire as pureblooded as the von Carsteins.
Yeah, Ushoran could easily rip a man's head from his shoulders with one hand before he turned into a Strigoi, Mannfred effortlessly lifted a massive, solid oak table above his head, and Neferata could shatter iron armor with a punch. Vampires are nothing to scoff at in terms of strength, and by far one of the strongest human-sized creatures.
One of my fav rainchecks on the strength levels was when Gotrek fought that vampire, he’s just barely able to keep up becuz he’s gotrek. Any normal dwarf/human and its curtains in seconds.
Yeah all the vampires would be able to lift quite a bit.
Why would they lift? They're undead with superpower. They gain no benefit nor detriment by (not) lifting.
Gotta pass the time somehow when you’re immortal.
Throt gotta be able to lift a horse at least ?? He's huge and got 3 arms ?
best he can do is 3 skavens.
With or without a trenchcoat?
Also Ikit being basically a cyborg that's constantly fueled with warpstone
Skrolk is also pretty strong since Pestilens use plagues to boost their physique Iirc
He’s a 5’4” rat with three weak, rat arms. Even with his excessive mass, he’s probably only 150lbs at best. Lift a human is a generous category for any Skaven.
I think its canon that he can lift a wood elf with one arm without any issues ( the dlc cinematic)
Also lore wise he punches monsters in the face for fun. That's his thing.
Lore-wise Throt is actually really strong I'm pretty sure, he can subdue even huge Rat ogres to the ground due to the warpstone enhancements he has. He is definitely high up in this list
You may not like-like, but this is what peak-best rat performance looks like, yes yes!
Aren't Skaven in good condition... not actually weaker or smaller than humans? Despite being treated like fodder by fanbase, a clanrat is comparable to a state trooper in terms of both physical capabilities and skill. And when pointing at height always remember that Skaven are hunched in natural posture - of course they won't be as tall given the same size
I always took it that skaven WOULD be equivalent to a human if they weren't malnourished and diseased from birth but they aren't which is why the focus on numbers
humans in the empire are also malnourished and diseased from birth. 16th century germans weren’t the healthiest people and thats without multiple plague gods gunning for them. think about what the teeth of the average stirlander must be like or the kinds of stds floating around altdorf
That has to do more with the, uh, "healthy sense of self-preservation" that comes standard issue in most Skaven that aren't called Queek. Skaven could be as strong as Ogres and they'd still focus on pure numbers, because they're all scared shitless of being killed most of the time. More other Skaven means less chances of random swords hitting you instead of other rats. Also more chances of being stabbed in the back by "friends" with an even... healthier sense of self-preservation than yours, of course, but that just means that you've gotta stab 'em first. Yes-yes.
I’ve always understood it to be that your average clan rat is considerably weaker and less physically capable than the average human. Except in capacity to endure ailment and squalor.
I’m definitely not an expert though. You could be right.
Your average skaven slave is weaker than the average human. Clan rats are the warriors of the skaven race and are actually fairly skilled and well trained, especially in some skaven factions. So no, a clan rat is not weaker than the average human.
He's a massive rat fueled by warpstone, whose metabolic rate makes him eat several times his body weight every few hours to fule his insane strength. Homie literally uses his catcher-thing to snap the necks of unruly rat-ogres, and can do so with casual ease (usually right before eating their corpse). Thrott is fucking STRONG.
Those arms are warpstone powered. He can pin Rat Ogres down.
He is constantly on drugs, ever watched the police wrangling a meth addict?
If he can't he'll just grow himself some muscles
I think Tamurkhan could lift a giant give the ogre body he took over is massive and going by where greasus is
Greasus is actually freakishly strong in the lore compared to most ogres. According to the 8th edition army book, he started an avalanche that buried an entire ogre tribe by throwing boulders at the mountainside and he squeezed a fully armored black orc warboss to paste with his bare hands.
Not to mention that the Sceptre of Titans gives Greasus the strength of a Skytitan.
Yet he trundles around on a wooden wheelbarrow. >:c
Tamurkhan has no hands either tho
He is in possession of hands.
This is quite possibly the worst chart I've ever seen, no idea what the basis is for any of them tbh
Purely based on the poster's own opinions with no lore consideration.
First time ;)
Putting grimgor in top tier is pretty funny.
If you ignore endtimes bullshit he's really not that special.
OP got bamboozled by the biggest and the greenest propaganda.
Na, I'm sure Repanse, the bretonnian peasant girl, is just as strong as the Orks, Chaos Warriors, Vampires, and Daemon Princes on her tier. And obviously Karl Franz is stronger yet, rightfully sharing his spot with a greater Daemon.
Doesn’t Repanse have some Lileath fuckery going on?
Repanse was a regular, mortal woman with the stat profile to match in the Tabletop.
Honestly, I'd believe Repanse to be as strong as any Grail Knight, which is on par with a Chaos Warrior.
Repanse would do an Omni-man to Franz if they ever fought hand in hand
Repanse lived and died a mortal woman, with a matching profile in the Tabletop. She never drank from the cup, she was not a grail knight. The lady's blessing protected Repanse from hostile magics, thats it. She had the exact same statline as any other mortal, human lord.
How they look of course
OP couldn't even bother remaking the list for all DLCs.
People upvote anything tho
All vampires are super humanly strong, even Manfred who is a nerd, was doing crazy stuff like punching stone pillars in one book, settra is also like super super strong, in the tabletop he was as strong or stronger than an ogre I believe.
People forget/don't know that Settra decapitated Kholek in a duel. The dude is insanely powerful.
Most characters are hilariously underrated here though.
I wouldn't use the kholek fight as a reference, because that fight made no sense, I could see settra winning but not no difficulty the second oldest guy on the planet
This fight also never happened. It was only mentioned in a random internet blog where the ET author listed ideas he never was able to fit in the books
Also i dont think Kurgat is that strong, budy cant even walk.
He can thro a mean curveball doe
Bro is probably a strongman. He avoids any cardio at all costs and has the physique of one.
Bloatmaxxing.
Wulfhart is a longbowman, you have any idea how much muscle that takes? He absolutely can lift a man.
Vampires are crazy strong, Issy and Manfred can easy lift a horse.
ArChEr aRe aGiLiTy cLaSsEs
More importantly, Wulfric is a Chaos Warrior, its mental to put him in the same tier as Karl Franz.
No way in hell Grimboy is stronger than Kugchad, Greasus, Durthu and Belakor. He is still only an orc after all. Also karl franz lifting a horse xd
Halfthor Bjornsson, arguably the strongest man alive, could only lift a small horse.
Karl ain’t liftin’ no horses lol.
Well, first of all, through Sigmar all things are possible, so jot that down.
The problem is, if you tell Grimgor that, he'll be angry enough to actually do it.
He’s not just an Ork. He’s the black Ork.
I actually dont know, but it might be bc Ghal Maraz strengthens its user? Like Grimnirs Axe did for Gotrek.
Just because Nkari is into aesthestics does not mean he cant lift heavy stuff.
He should be top tier.
Also the gnoblars who are pushing greasus around... Toppest of tiers