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Pretty people and ugly people exist in different worlds socially

If you are pretty, you know it for sure.

For pretty people, they are treated nicer, have more romantic options, people approach them, and theyre likely to experience a better time socially overall. However, it may be tougher to understand if someone actually might care about them, or is just wanting to use them to fulfill their own fantasies.

For ugly people, they might have a tougher time initially socially, and get treated worse overall. It cant be helped. They might not notice it because its all theyve ever known. However they'll know for sure the people who really are in their close circle actually care about the person they are.

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u/Buhos_En_Pantelones avatar

May I ask, what is the 'unpopular' part of this post?

u/PrimalForceMeddler avatar

This entire sub reddit is essentially constantly missing the fact that an opinion, or anything, can simultaneously be wildly popular and wildly unpopular without any fundamental contradiction.

u/rambles_prosodically avatar

I found my peace when I finally just accepted it as a sub for some ok discussions here and there with the occasional “I put ketchup on my lucky charms” shit thrown in lol

The only truly unpopular opinion I’ve personally seen on here was that one guy who hated Queen and said they were a mediocre band

u/rambles_prosodically avatar

There used to be some juicier ones towards the beginning, like people that enjoyed wet socks and shit. The algorithm worked on those! And hating Queen? Wow, the musical opinion equivalent of wet socks right there

That's bad, but did you miss the guy who LIKED getting hair in his food???

I remember once somebody said, "Freddie Mercury wasn't a good singer. He was just a guy who could hit all the notes."

And I was like ...???

To be fair, singing requires more than "just hitting notes," but even then, Freddie had it all. The range, the control, the diction, the character... It's one thing to say, "I don't like the way he sings" - it's absolutely bonkers to claim he wasn't a good singer.

That is certainly one of the opinions one can have I guess…

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There's also the occasional sociopath confession as well. It's not so much the opinion, but that they're an asshole about it, or that they're otherwise dysfunctional and want to normalize it.

These I sort of like because everyone in the comments jumps their shit to varying degrees.

u/rambles_prosodically avatar

For real! There are some potstirrer opinions that come in thinking that a bunch of people will fall in behind them. Funny to see the uproar

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exactly, it all depends on which population of people youre talking to

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u/drmehmetoz avatar

This opinion is pretty popular on reddit, but if you said this in real life you’d probably get a lecture on how “beauty is on the inside” and “looks don’t matter”

u/ThrowRA38484 avatar

THIS. this is exactly what I'm freaking saying. Like it straight up matters. Pretty people start life with more chances to actually find romantic partners they like and who like them back and, sure while that's only a small part of life, I bet it feels damn good.

I think you have more of a chance with sexual partners, but romantic partners require long term commitment. Pretty guys and gals don't make it long term if they are not good people.

u/camelspaced avatar

They're correlated though. You get more opportunities to try long term relationships if you attract people more easily.

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u/ThrowRA38484 avatar

Preach brother!

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conventional beauty is boring and is typically just a regular person with a truly symmetrical face. Nothing special, really

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lol that’s literally the go to answer anytime an ugly person posts about how they can’t find someone. Like why can’t people just be honest and admit that looks so matter and also personality?

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u/ThrowRA38484 avatar

I feel like some people want to say "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Which... sure, but more than likely most people are attracted to a person who has a certain "look" about them. In each culture, there are people who just check more boxes than other people in the "beauty" department statistically for more people.

And try as you might, if you don't check many of those boxes, you'll have a harder time finding someone who checks as many boxes for you as you check for them..if that makes sense? Lol

u/AlaskanHunters avatar

While this is not wrong. It’s still not an unpopular opinion. The argument is going to be on how far this effects go. Some of the most successful people in the world are not exactly lookers.

And on the other side. You will find people that are good looking who nah e serious self image problems.

You do in face meet girls who are gorgeous who don’t think they are.

Makes perfect sense. And yet, it doesn't in real life. You can be on the same level of attractiveness and still be rejected by people who check your boxes

u/ThrowRA38484 avatar

Would you say this is a frequent occurrence tho?

I think it depends on what you're looking for. Yes, conventionally attractive people surely get more attention, but I think that's all very superficial. As soon as you look for more, a deeper connection, it becomes much more complicated. You could be attractive physically and have a good personality, but it does not mean you'll be the right person for those who you think are are right for you. And sometimes the reason might be as simple as timing. Not sure if it's possible to quantity something like that.

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Some... a few. Most would agree with you so its a popular opinion.

It's unpopular to say looks matter as much as they really do, you're right. I don't care about the romantic popularity shit but the fact prettier people get hired more, paid more, is just WRONG. People need to survive, and not every job requires a supermodel. Yet, the shallow bosses and hiring managers of this world are this way.

There is a dark side to being pretty, especially if you’re young and female, but it applies generally. It’s that people always want something from you/want you/want to use you/do nice things with the expectations of getting what they want. And it’s often hard to know who likes you for you. It can be very emotionally isolating, and you’re often treated in a reductive way which is hard to deal with if you’re smart.

Being funny looking is emotionally isolating and the constant bullying ruins self esteem which can be almost impossible to undo. But pretty people make more, are perceived as more trustworthy, get more help, etc. there are some drawbacks, since there are drawbacks too everything. I'd love to win the huge Powerball jackpot, even though it means mo' problems.

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That depends on your scope

u/Alexreads0627 avatar

Literally my biggest complaint about 96% of posts on this sub

The ugly people lmao, we're unpopular.

The ugly people apparently lmao, we're unpopular.

The part where people are ignorant to this.

May I ask why this very popular opinion has 679 upvotes?

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Pretty privilege is well-known. 

Well-known, yes

But a lot of people deny or downplay it ("beauty is subjective", "it's the inner beauty that matters", "just have self-confidence ! ", "it's not your appearance that puts people off, it's your attitude", and so on). Of course they KNOW that pretty privilege exists, but they don't want to admit it because it's an uncomfortable truth

Groups with privilege will always deny their privilege. That’s pretty standard.

I mean, inner beauty IS what matters, but society doesn’t actually care about intrinsic value. 

Meanwhile, you’re spot on about not wanting to admit the uncomfortable truth. We exist in a society that preaches a meritocracy. Anything that violates that ideology is downplayed, gaslighted, or ignored. It sucks. 

Few people actually deny/downplay internally, most are just virtue signalling

u/lokomoko99764 avatar
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I think it's more than just virtue signalling. I like getting into people's minds, so I've explored this subject with people who are very good looking. The only bias is that I've mainly only spoken to men about it, so I don't know if it would differ for attractive women (I have a hunch that the same tendency might be even more exagerrated, though). What I noticed is that it's a form of subtle insecurity (which is not detectable on the outside, i.e. via body language, etc.), in that they want to project an image of reality which supports their successes as results of their choice. It feels more gratifying to an attractive person, actually for people in general, to believe that their successes are a result of who they "chose" to be or the actions they "chose" to make, and the "hard work" they believe they've done (whether or not they've actually done any hard work is not overly important - they might have, or might not have). So, from what I noticed, I actually think attractive people are the most likely to downplay the role of attractiveness internally and have a less accurate understanding of reality in this particular respect. They are more likely to believe that attractiveness is subjective, even if they consistently have only ever dated other attractive people, so their words belie their behaviour. There is also another tendency, which is one of sympathy or empathy, or maybe there is a better word for it that I don't know of. It actually feels internally bad to imagine that a lot of people out there will never be able to experience the intensely good feelings you get from loving and being loved (even if only sexually) by another very good looking person. So it's a valid psychological defence mechanism, just like believing in the afterlife is a defence mechanism, to imagine that even the less attractive people can still experience the same joys in life (by believing that attractiveness is subjective). And by believing that, it allows you to continue on enjoying the things that other people don't or rarely get to enjoy, because you don't always have in the back of your mind that you are privileged. People, generally speaking (not all), actually have their pleasure reduced by knowing that the pleasures they enjoy are something others will suffer about. It's the same tendency as feeling bad about leftovers when there are starving people just down the road, living rough. I've even seen people invent the idea that less fortunate people are happier than them because they are less fortunate, all to feel better about themselves (in the context of hunger this time, not relationships). It's amazing what people will invent psychologically to feel good about enjoying themselves. And it's, surprisingly enough, created by an excess of empathy!

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As much as I hate it, it is what it is

Yep. Society is weird. 

It’s not weird tbh. Unfair but not weird

I mean, if you mean “weird” as in “not normal,” I guess technically you’re not wrong because we have normalized devaluing and harming others. 

I think it’s sad that unfairness and injustice isn’t abnormal, personally. 

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u/phillynavydude avatar

I don't think the really pretty people are as aware as others are.. they just think it's normal life.

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Honestly I see a lot of women I know making posts about being followed around by creepy men, cat called etc and sometimes I’m just like “damn, I’m glad I’m fat and ugly because I’ve never had to deal with that” 😂

u/Mondai_May avatar

Honestly a lot of the downsides of being attractive can happen to people who are not attractive too. Like cat calling and even being followed for predatory reasons. Even r-pe.

u/Simple_Heart4287 avatar

Yeah I hate the narrative that only attractive people are Sexually assaulted. People have been blown off because they were seen as too ugly to a victim, that has to be the worst feeling like you just got raped, called ugly, and been accused of lying.

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u/Grouchy_Phone_475 avatar

They yell things to insult though.

Yeah one of the only things good about being fat is I know I’m not gonna be a target for most serial killers simply because picking me up is a challenge and not worth it when you can kidnap a skinny girl so much easier.

u/Georgialitza avatar

Yeah sometimes I wish I was pretty, but then I remember it’s actually usually a blessing that men ignore me.

I'm a fat and not conventionally good looking woman, and I indeed never had to deal with such stuff. I was never catcalled or harrassed (which obv I'm glad about), but I also never had a drink bought for me at a party or was offered a ride home or stuff like that. I was basically invisible to most people.

u/sohi1223 avatar

Its like being happy you aren't a billionaire cause you don't get robbed that often, the positives heavily outweigh the negatives.

Idk I was bullied for my appearance a lot and it took years to recover from the anxiety and depression it gave me, maybe I'd rather be catcalled instead 😭

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This isn't popular opinions

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u/miagi_do avatar
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People that have lots of money, great personalities, or super intelligence also have life easy. I don’t think being good looking is any different.

u/Outside_Math_3756 avatar

True though. Most people have at least some form of currency, even if it's not in appearance, which is still relative to a great degree.

u/raspberrih avatar

Typically people judge on what we see so beauty is still a more obvious currency

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I'm smart and funny – say the people who actually made the effort to get to know me. Problem is, most folks don't come as far as getting to know me because I'm not attractive.

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Being super smart does not actually make life easier lol

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This is not an unpopular opinion.

u/probablyright1720 avatar

Young people never realize they’re only pretty for like 10-15 years of their life.

Like you can be an attractive 50-year-old, sure. But it’s not the same as being an attractive 20-year-old. No one really cares. You’re still only attractive “for your age.”

Don’t worry so much about your appearance. It is fleeting. Those 10-15 years go way faster than you think.

"Like you can be an attractive 50-year-old, sure. But it’s not the same as being an attractive 20-year-old. No one really cares. You’re still only attractive “for your age.”

Being attractive for your age isn't the same as being young-pretty, that's true.

But it's also not the same (like, not-living-in-the-same-world different) as being an ugly middle-aged or old person. So the underlying privilege (more beautiful people treated better, and ugly people mistreated) is still there.

Anti-ugly discrimination and prejudice don't magically disappear when you cease to be young.

u/probablyright1720 avatar

It’s easier to be attractive “for your age” because most people aren’t, so in comparison to your peers, you look good. So I don’t think there’s a huge discrepancy in treatment once all of your peers are old and ugly.

I feel like for the most part, older people are just kind of invisible.

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u/Training-Judgment695 avatar

Sure but that window is also your social peak and you can use it to set up the rest of your life

u/probablyright1720 avatar

I mean, it might open up your dating pool a bit which will translate into who you marry, but lots of good looking people still end up lonely because they were busy fucking around and didn’t realize they got old.

u/iyesclark avatar

they said social peak, we’re not just talking about dating.

an attractive person is way more likely to excel in their career for example

u/probablyright1720 avatar

No one excels in their career when they are at their peak attractiveness. They’re too young and dumb.

I would actually argue that attractive women probably have a harder time being taken seriously because people think if they’re hot, they’re dumb.

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u/ThrowRA38484 avatar

I mean then they'd know at that point it wasn't really their personality that was pulling lol

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u/ThrowRA38484 avatar

Can you explain what you mean by this?

u/Training-Judgment695 avatar

If you're hot you leverage it into mate selection and a lot of sex in your youth. You can also leverage the social connections into career opportunities. All within the window of 18-35

u/ThrowRA38484 avatar

Ah yes, how exciting but also depressing haha

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u/Outside_Math_3756 avatar

I've recently been thinking about exactly this. Your appearance begins to change in observable ways by the time you're about 27. Definitely by early 30s. People in their early twenties sailing high on the belief that they will appear youthful for a substantially longer amount of time are in for quite the surprise, lol. Even for those in their 30s who still retain a lot of youthful quality in their appearance, the initial signs of aging are unmistakable by this point, and it's allll downhill from there.

u/raspberrih avatar

I'm asian.... lol

u/probablyright1720 avatar

Haha I’m 35 and I was pretty cute in my 20s. I still think I’m cute when I compare myself to other 35 year olds, but 20-year-old me was definitely cuter.

But I also care a lot less now. It was the single most important thing to me when I was young - wanting to be the prettiest girl in the room. And your peers at that age also act like it’s the most important thing - the girls all compare themselves to each other, the guys talk incessantly about who is hot and who is not.

Then one day you realize that you’re 35 - you had say 10 really hot years (let’s say 18-28). If I’m expected to live until 80, 70 of those years are going to be spent not being the prettiest girl in the room.

Now I think about how dumb it was I thought it was soooo important when I was young. It’s such a small part of your life.

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u/NotCanadian80 avatar

I don’t know where you get your information from by I’m far more attractive to women as a man at 45 than I was at 20 and it’s VERY noticeable.

u/probablyright1720 avatar

You most certainly are - because you’re more mature, have more money, and likely have a better personality than you did at 20.

20 year old guys are duds.

But you’re not more attractive to 20 year old girls.

u/NotCanadian80 avatar

Oh I’m absolutely invisible to 20 year old girls.

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This isn't an unpopular opinion

u/Senior_Fart_Director avatar

Duh? Why is this unpopular 

Sorta kinda. I’d say there’s an in between to everything though. You can still be pretty or attractive and have more people approach you and still not be treated nicely. It honestly all depends. Like yeah some people who are more attractive have it easier on the social spectrums but everyone’s situation is purely unique

u/Yuck_Few avatar

Im14andthisisdeep

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As Chappelle said "When you're good-looking, everybody will tell you. When you're ugly, you've got to figure that shit out for yourself"

u/Remarkable-Alarm7428 avatar

When you're disgustingly ugly, people will go out of their way to tell you. Like actually tell you to your face (men) or backhanded comments like," u would be really pretty if you fixed this feature" (women) or straight up point out what's wrong with you (children).