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I feel like Rebel's memoir is going to be like Jada Pinkett-Smith's for me, in that I'll never need to read the book myself because I'll just end up hearing all of the most interesting parts through the many news stories that are published about it.
With the exception of I’m Glad My Mom Died (fantastic), I’ve never read a single celeb memoir because of this exact reason.
If you’re looking for a fun read look at H John Benjamin’s(archer/bobs burgers etc) book Failure Is An Option. It’s hilarious and he reads his own audiobook and it’s worth the listen.
LOL the first book on Libby I've found with no holds. Seems fitting.
closest I’ve come is Bourdain’s Kitchen Confidential. He sounds miserable reading aloud his own words in the audio book for the first couple chapters. But he really gets into it afterward and it’s amazing. Jeanette McCurdy‘s book is one that does interest me though, been hearing a lot of great things about it
Kitchen Confidential is hands down one of my favorite books of all time.
Trevor Noah's book was amazing. Recommend the audiobook because he reads it himself. Here's my favourite excerpt from the book:
I think about this quote almost every day. Just so well put.
Same!! It really is!
All these people recommending celebrity memoirs and no mention of Carrie Fisher yet, for shame
I seen clips of Carrie Fisher’s one woman show and that woman missed her calling as a comedian.
Hello, Molly! is one of the only memoirs I've read. It really felt like Molly Shannon was letting me into her life, it was such a fascinating, funny, and sometimes gut-punching read.
I’m going to add this one to my list. I’ve always loved Molly Shannon in every single thing they’ve ever done. She has a direct line to my funny bone. Superstar is one of the dumbest movies I’ve ever seen and it’s also one of my faves.
If you want one that’ll tickle your funny bone, Martin Short’s memoir “I Must Say” is a great read.
The giant plot twist in the middle that makes you go from just hating on her mother's abuse to flat out despising the shit out of her is worth it alone. Jenette has been through so much crap.
God I devoured that book and it was a little too relatable- glad I did tho
Highly recommend Danny Trujo's memoir. A man that should be dead a couple times over.
Jodie Sweetin’s was good.
Some of the memoirs are interesting but only if it is actually published once they’ve retired.
That was me and the Britney one but then Michelle Williams narrated it and I changed my mind.
Any time I see Michelle Williams name her impression of Justin Timberlake tryna be gangsta pops into my head "Oh yeah, fo shiz fo shiz! What's up Ginuwine!?"
I just looked it up to hear it again. She needs a Grammy 😂
Holy crap you’re so right!!!! I hope someone puts her up for consideration
Literally HAHA
I want to know why she was chosen and how- did she just express interest? Did her managers pitch it? Etc.
I just read an article shedding some light on this which shed no actual light. But there are producers with the publishing companies and also Audible whose job is to broker this kind of thing. Sometimes the actor is a fan of the author. No clue how this one came to pass.
Very interesting!
I just listened to this book on the podcast Celebrity Memoir Bookclub. For some reason I hate reading memoirs (although I also read I'm Glad My Mom Died), but I love listening to them on this show. The hosts have California like inflections in their voices that turned me off at first, but they actually do a great job of going over the book. Rebel's episode was very interesting.
I like that podcast! They did a crossover with my favorite movie podcast for the Tippi Hedren book.
Try reading 'Undisputed' about Mike Tyson. It's probably up there in the greatest celebrity memoirs especially since he is very honest about what kind of wild things he's done, crazy thing it still doesn't cover all of the shit he went through
The only other one I would recommend on top of that thats even crazier is 'Brando Unzipped'. It was done by a writer that interviewed Brando's agent, friends and compared events in his biographies to get an accurate version. I'll just say this, Brando is a far, far uglier human being than you all think.
I usually listen to the audiobooks for celebrity memoirs if they’re read by the celebrity. I find it more engaging to hear them tell their story out loud because they give it the intended inflections etc
Lmao the number of times in one episode one of them will go “can I just say…?” to begin a statement 😂 yeah even as a California girl it was a bit much for me. Tho they talk about New York so much, are either of them actually from California?
There’s also another Celebrity Book Club podcast run by a very gay man and his lesbian bff. They don’t do a complete run through of the book like claire and Ashley but they’re hilarious
No, I think one is from NJ and the other NY!
Tina Fey's Bossypants was hysterical. And Matthew Perry's was all the emotions. But there are more memoirs I'm not interested in, than am.
Same, I heard that Jada’s memoir was actually really thought and good. Too bad I don’t feel called to read it.
I’m confused. If she’s worried about a libel or slander case against her, she’s already made the allegations. I don’t see how the technicality of not publishing them in the memoir makes a difference, legally
(To be clear I believe her, I just don’t understand why she excluded it at this point?
Without reading the details, Australia’s laws against defamation are super weird and convoluted, which might be playing a part since she’s based in Sydney. For example, Rebel herself sued a newspaper a few years ago that published an expose about her lying about her age … they were completely correct, Rebel admitted that she was lying about her age and was actually like 7 years older or something. But then she took them to court and won after it was argued that her pretending to be younger was good for her career, and now that her true age was published she could face repercussions.
I'm guessing her publisher didn't want to take on the risk.
Right he can probably sue her but not the publisher
I feel like her claims couldn’t be substantiated or else they would have published them.
I’m sure the publisher really wanted it in the book, but if they couldn’t substantiate the claims their hands were tied.
Substantiating personal accounts is an interesting one. If you and I are in a room, and I call you a jerk, and you later wanted to publish that, how could anyone substantiate that?
I wonder if some claims are false, but others are just pulled because they aren't worth the legal and public fight over them?
Calling someone a jerk and saying someone is guilty of something illegal are significantly different.
Especially in the world of publishing.
Sooooooo is anyone actually interested in her memoir? I don’t mean to disrespect but who is the audience for this?
Someone didn’t want to get sued, and it wouldn’t surprise me if she’s being taken to court by Cohen
So whats the consensus here? Did she make it up or what?
Edit: When I say "here" I dont mean in the sub, just generally asking if anything has been presented to prove anything either way but put it too quickly and casually ✌🏿
Most likely scenario is that what she claims happened did happen, however in a case where he sues her for those claims, she has no way of proving them in court.
And SBC people basically came out with “we have all these docs and witness statements to dispute this” so they probably had to drop it.
Plus the publisher will be covering their ass as he would be able to sue them too.
I think he would have to prove it didn't happen for a defamation case.
I think if you make a claim about someone and they sue for defamation you’re expected to be able to back your claim up.
If I make a claim you killed puppies and you sue me for defamation it’s up to me to prove my claim has legitimacy it wouldn’t be up to you to prove you didn’t kill puppies.
At that point anyone could make a crazy claim about anyone and just sit back and watch the person try and disprove it. You would still need to prove your claim is legit.
Is that true? Feels like that means you could never repeat anything that didn't happen with witnesses.
The burden of proof for a defamation suit is on the plaintiff. In this case, that would be him.
Depends on the jurisdiction. In the uk the onus is on the accuser to prove it happened in a civil case.
thats not how it works
Then provide non-smug reply explaining how it happens. When you say "that's not how it works" you're not really contributing to conversation.
He would have to prove it didn't happen in a defamation case. Winning a defamation case is very difficult, he would need a lot of hard evidence and facts on his side, as well as proof of emotional/financial damages as a result. The burden of proof would be completely on him, not her, so your speculation, while maybe coming from the right place, doesn't make any sense or "contribute to conversation."
I think it’s interesting that she accused him of asking her if he could stick his finger up her bum (to which she declined) bc she gleefully recounted actually (and without asking) doing that exact thing to Tom Hardy. In the same story she spoke about grabbing Anne Hathaways breasts without her consent. I’m not saying she made anything up, but I’m sure that came into question.
Oh my God thats horrible 💔
So it was a request that she stick her finger up Sasha’s bum.
And not to defend her but she’s said re Hardy that she was directed to do it and assumed (wrongly) that Hardy was aware and consented. She’s attributed this to being inexperienced in the film industry at the time and has said she would confirm directly now.
Anne Hathaway - they are mates and I assume she knew it’d be ok. I have mates who I know would be fine with it and those where I wouldn’t.
I’m just saying that I don’t think it’s fair to lump these 3 into the same molester pool.
If she knew it would be okay she would have asked.
I agree she should have.
My guess is it’s a he said she said. The way it’s described it seems like both parties say things happened but their understanding of the circumstances is different - from her perspective she was forced into uncomfortable positions and from his and others perspective it was planned and agreed to. Both can be true, so to speak. I really feel for her re: the sex-scene thing because I already think that would suck and if she was struggling with her sexuality at all and feeling uncomfortable emotionally with intimacy that probably made it very hard. The way she described a sex scene “I still had to simulate having sex with this guy. I still had to kiss him repeatedly,” made me think this was just very uncomfortable for her overall.
😅 I would be very cautious about speculating about this. At least imo, when it comes to sexual harassment claims or the general mistreatment of women in male dominated professional environments, it’s better to always believe the victim. Of course it’s possible that the accuser can be lying, but it’s also possible in this case that she has been threatened behind the scenes. We really don’t know, so it’s best not to speculate until more information comes out. Cohen has come forward and denied the claims (but of course he would), and I also find it interesting that Rebel mentioned that she reported him to her agent at one point and someone from his team called her and threatened her
Lmao I unfortunately know more about both SA and false allegations than you could possibly imagine due to God deciding to put me on hard mode and my line of work. I am aware of the issues I'm just asking if any consensus had been reached/whats changed. Last I remember he released some video featuring far too many shots of his butt but I dont recall it being conclusive of anything either way (apart from there being no apparent intimacy coordination which is 🚩).
I haven’t seen any evidence that he did what she’s saying. But that’s not to say she’s lying. I would imagine that’s why it’s not in the book as there isn’t anything concrete.
Do I think a man who has made his career out of making non consenting people uncomfortable aggressively asked a powerless female comedian to put her finger in his ass?
I don't not believe it...
Am I seriously the only one that thinks she’s not interesting enough to have a memoir
This headline makes it sound like she changed passages after his statement, but that can’t be right. They probably were always vague enough to get cleared by legal?
Very disappointing