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The legacy of The Hite Bros. and CANNED HEAT

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  1. joelee

    joelee Hyperactive! Thread Starter

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    As a fan of Canned Heat I've always was amazed by the members muscianship and love of the blues. Bob Hite was to have had one of the largest collections of early blues platters. I've recently looked up other members of the band and discovered this his brother Richard, also a great musician was also quite a historian on the blues and other american music.

    http://www.bluesworld.com/RICHARDHITE.HTML

    In another thread Steve mentioned his freindship with Richard, would love to learn more about their relationship and more insight on the man.


    * We lost Richard, Bob, Alan Wilson and Henry Vestine way to early in life.
     
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  2. Steve Hoffman

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    Richard Hite lived for music. He was a kind guy who wanted nothing more in life than to play and listen to the Blues.

    In 1976 my girlfriend Terra (her grandfather started BMI and her other grandfather was the renowned Disney decorator Emil Kuri) and I were searching for stuff to listen to that was not "mainstream". The middle 1970's was all dance music and not very interesting mainstream rock (this was before the Punk scene) and even though she was only 17 and working at UA Music it was obvious that the music scene was pretty boring.

    She heard an old record at KPFK Studios where her mom volunteered (and we met) called "Push My Button (Ring My Bell)" by Lil Johnson that was recorded in like 1935 and loved the sound. I liked it as well. We wanted to hear more really old stuff so Terra found this local drummer named George Metz who had a fab 78 collection. He in turn introduced us to Richard Hite who was not only a rabid collector but a pretty famous musician.

    He had a great little place in the valley where he held court, making yummy homemade ice cream with his girlfriend and constantly spinning country blues records from the 1920s full blast on his Thorens TD-124.

    Richard knew everything about old music, I mean, you could ask him anything. Not only about the artists and the songs but also about the record labels, matrix numbers, recording techniques, etc. from the old days. His collection was so huge that it would have been impossible to go through it but whenever he played something we really liked we asked him for more of the same.

    In this way I got to hear King Oliver, Blind Willie McTell, etc. for the first time. His Robert Johnson 78s and test pressings sounded so wonderful that my jaw dropped when I heard them; nothing like the LP I had on Columbia.

    At any rate, most of the 78s in my collection I bought from Richard. He made me some fantastic deals on records that might have sold 500 copies in their time. In other words, the good stuff.

    I learned a great deal from Richard and his Saturday night sessions became something that both Terra and I looked forward to. Richard was the guy who taught me about matrix numbers and what they mean, how to find a reissue 78 that was made from an original stamper, what the various label designs meant, the proper non-RIAA curve to play back old records, etc.

    He also had an amazing 1950's and 60's rock collection. I first heard the Beatles alternate take of LOVE ME DO on a Capitol Of Canada 45 at his house. Sometimes Richard and his Canned Heat buddies would jam and we would watch and hear the great sound of actual LIVE acoustic music in a small space. A nice sound.

    When they decided to move to Memphis it was a sad day for me.

    Even now when I spin King Oliver's "TOO LATE" on the Scroll Victor and PIGMEAT PAPA by Lead Belly on an ARC test pressing from 1934 I got from Richard for 5 bucks I can still taste that homemade peach ice cream.

    He died way too young.

    I loved Canned Heat as a kid as well. I slowly realized with dawning wonder that all of their music was based on these great forgotten country blues records from the late 1920's. Bob Hite's little brother Richard really carried on the tradition. You don't often see two brothers who are in to the exact same thing. Quite amazing really.

    So much good music out there that is waiting to be discovered, both old and new..
     
  3. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    Canned Heat is definitely one of the great bands of the rock era
     
  4. joelee

    joelee Hyperactive! Thread Starter

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    Thanks Steve.

    Very interisting (and tasty) info!
     
  5. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    Ron Furmanek's remix of "Let's Work Together" sounds a lot clearer than the rechanneling that was done back in the day.
     
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  6. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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    Can anyone recommend a really good CANNED HEAT CD or two disc set?

    I have no idea where to begin in the digital world. My old LPs are pretty gone.
     
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  7. joelee

    joelee Hyperactive! Thread Starter

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    Hard one to answer Steve but here goes...
    For compilations "The Best of" on EMI Manhattann duplicates the Old "Cookbook" LP adding Let's Work Together as a bonus track.
    The songs from Cookbook sound very good but Let's Work Together sounds like it was copied from a worn out cassette.
    "Uncanned" (2 CD set/EMI) also with good sound (could be NR'd as it's pretty clean) contains a nice sounding copy of Let's Work Together but doesn't include Fried Hockey Boogie.
    I also have a UK/Phantom import of "Boogie with" that sounds a bit to crisp and and a Italian/Akarma import of "Living the Blues" that sounds pretty good but I heard it was a needle drop.
    I'm interested in a good sounding copy of "Future Blues" if anyone can share info.
    With that said, the 2 compilations can be found for a very good prices and should satisfy those who just want a representive set of the core band.
     
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  8. Chris Schoen

    Chris Schoen Rock 'n Roll !!!

    Location:
    Maryland, U.S.A.
    "Uncanned! - The Best of Canned Heat" (EMI Legends of Rock and Roll
    Series) 2 CD set is very good. Don't know if it's still in print, but this is
    a fine collection.
    Also, on a Canned Heat related note, the book Blind Owl Blues (The Myterious
    Life and Death of Blues Legend Alan Wilson) by Rebecca Winters, is a great
    read for those interested in Canned Heats greatest music, which was mostly
    written and performed by Wilson (On the Road Again, Goin' up the Country)
    - Highly Recommended!
     
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  9. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    Uncanned is in print as an import.
     
  10. Tone

    Tone Senior Member

    I had the pleasure to record with Henry Vestine quite a bit later in his career before he passed away. He was one amazing Blues Guitar player, and just got better as he got older. At the end of a take we'd just be astounded at his solos...... "That was amazing Henry!" someone would say...... and he'd answer......"Yeah, let's get a drink!". And that's just what he'd do.

    Henry was an original member of the "Mothers of Invention". Played "Monterey Pop" in '67, but was not with Canned Heat at "Woodstock".

    God bless you Henry.
     
  11. crimsoncing

    crimsoncing New Member

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    My best friend and I saw The Heat at the Hollywood Bowl when their label had a 99 cent day at the bowl. It was several bands (War was one of the other ones)....I got to meet Bob and he turned both of us on to Robert Johnson.......

    I wore out 3 copies of Living The Blues and Live In Topanga Canyon. Their First Lp was always my favorite.

    My life has never been the same since. This was 70 or 71 I think. I went from Surf City to Hellhound On My trail in one weekend. I was lucky enough to see CH 5 times with Bob.
     
  12. mcow1

    mcow1 Sommelier Gort

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    I had tickets to that but couldn't make it.:shake:
     
  13. crimsoncing

    crimsoncing New Member

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    We snuck in and hid out in the hills until someone with a flashlight walked thru the bushes and yelled at us. I slid down about 75 feet thru thorn bushes and then jumped down into the seats in the very back. We then ran all the way down to the stage. 99 cent for 5 bands (all on United Artist) was a great deal. War, CH, Sugerloaf are the only 3 I can remember. I do remember that between bands while the roadies set everything up, they play side one of the first CSN Lp over and over again.
     
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  14. Drawer L

    Drawer L Forum Resident In Memoriam

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    Whatever happened to their records???
     
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  15. johnny 99

    johnny 99 Down On Main Street

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    Thanks Steve for a great little story.
    Canned Heat were responsible for my first real appreciation of blues-based music.
    As a kid I just loved Hallelujah! and Future Blues (I wore out those Liberty LP's!)
     
  16. John D.

    John D. Senior Member

    Ah Yes, I can remember a time in the 70's when I was living in San Pedro.
    My next store neighbor was a guy named Steve too. He said he was roadie
    for Canned Heat, I said really, I love Canned Heat's music. He said we'll go
    up to Topanga some time and I will let you meet the guy's. I said, I would like that!
    Well, a month or so later, we drove up to Topanga Canyon in my newly acquired,
    used 73' Triumph TR6. We drove up one Saturday night to Richard Hite's house
    in Topanga. The thing that blew my mind was walking in the front door, the living
    room was filled with floor to ceiling racks of records, I'm talking thousands of records
    here. Needless to say, I was impressed. He had records in that house that were impossible
    to find. We hung out there for a while, then went on over to the Corral for the remainder of the
    night for some nice music and what not!!!!! I often wonder where Steve is now!

    CANNED HEAT: One of the BEST BOOGIE Band's EVER !!

    The Very Best of CANNED HEAT on Capitol 72435-60146-2-6 (good place to start)

    JD :righton:
     
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  17. Electric

    Electric The Medium is the Massage

    I finally added some Canned Heat to my CD collection last year and picked up the BGO twofer of their first two albums, Canned Heat and Boogie with Canned Heat, and the BGO Living the Blues. So basically, their first three albums. I'm also a fan of Hooker 'n Heat. Found their Live at Topanga Corral in a clearance bin and which I quite like, though the sound is uneven.
     
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  18. I am typing this directly from the booklet in the CD titled “Down In The Basement, Joe Bussard’s treasure trove of vintage 78’s”

    This is Joe Bussard talking,

    “ One time the guys from Canned Heat came up to the house. Oh god, it’s been at least thirty years ago. They’d just finished playing some gig at Meyersville. They come up in a Rolls Royce, with wads of money, boy! Wads of money, enough to choke an elephant! I think they had a hit record at the time.
    And they went down in the basement and at that time I had thousands of duplicate records. You know, I used to have whole shelves full of ‘em, just dupes. And they started pulling out things they wanted to buy. The whole bunch, they all bought something, and it added up. And by the time they were done, they dropped $9,000. In cash! They had the money in their pockets!
    So I took the money, and I went out to the local pool company and I said, “I want a pool.” And they come up and looked, you know, and said it would cost $9,000, right around that. So I have Canned Heat to thank for that swimming pool. They were the ones that paid for it! I couldn’t afford one!”
     
  19. Is this a decent sounding sampler by Canned Heat?

    The Very Best of Canned Heat
    EMI 2002

    By listening to online samples, that one sounds a lot less loud and smoother than the 2005 EMI compilation.
     

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  20. OnTheRoad

    OnTheRoad Not of this world

    I have this compilation and like it very much. Gonna crank it up when I get home shortly. I'll even post some DR values, right here, for you tomorrow Rusty. :) I'll try to give a little opinion on the sound too...it's been awhile since I've listened to it.

    Oh and by the way, I saw Canned Heat twice within a week in Hawaii, 1972. They played at the old Civic Auditorium and at Schofield Barracks, an army installation in the middle of the island for the soldiers and whoever else ! And also...Henry Vestine was with them at that point..but no Alan Wilson, he'd passed a couple years earlier. Still though..a 2 great shows !
     
  21. Chris Schoen

    Chris Schoen Rock 'n Roll !!!

    Location:
    Maryland, U.S.A.
    The 2-cd collection "Uncanned" is really good.
     
  22. Folknik

    Folknik Forum Resident

    In an era when most guitarists were trying to emulate Clapton or Hendrix, Vestine had a sound all his own.
     
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  23. Eric Weinraub

    Eric Weinraub Forum Resident

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    If you love the Blues you HAVE TO LOVE CAnned Heat...amazing band.
     
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  24. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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    Someone just "liked" this. Thanks so much, I had forgotten even writing it but every word holds true!
     
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  25. OnTheRoad

    OnTheRoad Not of this world



    The cd sounds good to me. I don't believe there is 'no noise' applied...even though a few tunes are a bit treble shy-ish. The dynamics are good. Mostly with a 11-12 DR value...and very crankable. Here's the values....

    Canned Heat - The Very Best of Canned Heat EMI UK

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    Analyzed folder: G:\MusicCollection\RegColl12Belew-CaptainB\CannedHeatVeryBestof\
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    DR Peak RMS Filename
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    DR12 -4.28 dB -20.30 dB Track01.wav
    DR13 -4.42 dB -20.81 dB Track02.wav
    DR14 -3.76 dB -20.70 dB Track03.wav
    DR12 -4.34 dB -19.00 dB Track04.wav
    DR10 -4.44 dB -16.45 dB Track05.wav
    DR10 -4.77 dB -16.44 dB Track06.wav
    DR14 -3.30 dB -19.96 dB Track07.wav
    DR14 -5.19 dB -21.13 dB Track08.wav
    DR7 -7.26 dB -15.75 dB Track09.wav
    DR13 -3.41 dB -19.68 dB Track10.wav
    DR14 -4.45 dB -20.95 dB Track11.wav
    DR13 -5.85 dB -21.57 dB Track12.wav
    DR13 -4.85 dB -19.91 dB Track13.wav
    DR15 -3.93 dB -20.38 dB Track14.wav
    DR9 -2.82 dB -16.85 dB Track15.wav
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Number of files: 15
    Official DR value: DR12

    The tune that is the most compressed here is "Let's Work Together". Not sure if it's inherent to the recording and I surely wouldn't understand that the mastering engineer would crunch that tune and leave the others relatively intact. It does have an 'out of place' sound on this compilation. Otherwise, a great full, single disc compilation in my book !
     
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