Shock: Habitual Liar Jen Psaki Habitually Lied In Her New Book (Which Blasts "Misinformation," BTW); <br><i>She Claims Gold Star Family Members Lied When They Said Biden Kept Checking His Watch at the Dignified Remains Transfer Ceremony</i>

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Shock: Habitual Liar Jen Psaki Habitually Lied In Her New Book (Which Blasts "Misinformation," BTW); <br><i>She Claims Gold Star Family Members Lied When They Said Biden Kept Checking His Watch at the Dignified Remains Transfer Ceremony</i>


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But it turns out her book is the actual misinformation and it will need to be corrected. Advertisement The backstory here is the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan which resulted in 13 dead soldiers. In August of 2021, Biden attended a "dignified transfer" ceremony at Dover Air Force Base where the bodies of the soldiers were taken off a plane in coffins draped in the American flag. But for some reason, President Biden kept checking his watch during the ceremony, making it look like he had more important places to be. Now, Psaki is claiming that never happened. Driving the news: In her new book "Say More," Psaki writes that "the president looked at his watch only after the ceremony had ended. Moments later, he and the First Lady headed toward their car." Psaki, now a star anchor at MSNBC who has described herself as a journalist, writes that Biden's critics were engaged in "misinformation" and used the image to make "him appear insensitive, concerned only about how much time had passed." There were indeed claims that Biden had only checked his watch after the ceremony but fact-checks at the time found that wasn't true. Associated Press photos taken 10 minutes apart show Biden checking his watch during the ceremony. Another photo from the Agence France-Presse, distributed by Getty Images, also shows Biden glancing at his watch, although it's unclear what time the image was taken... Biden did check his watch at least three times, according to photos and video reviewed by USA TODAY. Several family members of fallen service members who attended the ceremony have criticized Biden for checking his watch. She is indirectly defaming the Gold Star Families who spoke about Biden's watch-checking as liars, and they've informed this rottencrotch bitch that she should lawyer up. Mark Schmitz, whose son Jared was one of the 13 American service members killed in Afghanistan on August 26th, 2021, told Townhall that Psaki "will be hearing from our attorney, [and] so will her publisher...to the fullest extent of the law," adding that "what she wrote was absolutely disgusting and clearly only for political and financial gain at the expense of grieving Gold Star families." According to Axios's Alex Thompson, who had the misfortune of reading at least parts of her book, Psaki falsely claimed that it was "misinformation" for the Gold Star families and their supporters to claim that Biden checked his watch as their loved ones' remains returned to American soil. "The president looked at his watch only after the ceremony had ended. Moments later, he and the First Lady headed toward their car," Psaki falsely claimed. She, of course, was not on the tarmac -- and the Gold Star families who were held nothing back in the aftermath of her book release. "Her useless a wasn't even there. We were," Schmitz added of the incident when Biden had "half the families rushing across the tarmac to pound the st out of him." It's particularly cruel for Psaki "to publish this right before Mother's Day," Schmitz said. Without confessing her error, Psaki says the book's next printing will delete any mention of how many times Biden checked his watch. The Gold Star Families say: That's not enough. You'll be hearing from our attorneys. Following Thompson's story, Psaki caved to reality and said that the "detail in a few lines of the book about the exact number of times he looked at his watch will be removed in future reprints and the ebook." Importantly, however, she knew prior to the article's publication that she lied -- and presumably had no plans to correct the record -- until she was lit up for it. Congressman Derrick Van Orden (R-WI), himself a former Navy SEAL, called her "Madam Goebbels" for her shameless lying. For Darin Hoover, the Gold Star father of Taylor Hoover, those changes are insufficient. "In the age of cancel culture, she needs to be canceled," he told Townhall. "She's trying to rewrite history and make money off of our kids' backs and their legacy and we will not stand for it. I'm calling on NBC, MSNBC, and Simon and Schuster, the publishers, to terminate Psaki for those lies." Remember, lefties claim the right peddles "disinformation" while the left, when it makes a rare "error," immediately corrects that error. Do you Psaki correcting her "error" here? No. She's merely going to "compromise" and not keep on repeating the lie. At least, until the pressure's off, then she will repeat the lie again. This is the same thing the left did with the "hands up, don't shoot" lie. They peddled that lie for months. Then Obama's own partisan DOJ admitted this was all a lie, and without retracting their previous lies, the leftwing media simply stopped repeating "hands up, don't shoot." For a while. And then, when the cooling-off period was over, they began saying "hands up, don't shoot" as part of their anti-civilizational revolutionary rhetoric again. It's the same thing they do with all of their lies. When the lies are proven, they briefly put the lie into a cool-off period. And then, a year later: They just start repeating the lie all over again. Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 06:14 PM Comments (Jump to bottom of comments) 1 It's not a lie if you believe it! Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 13, 2024 06:15 PM (QNSds) 2 Oh....and first! Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 13, 2024 06:16 PM (QNSds) 3 Psaki....not bangable Posted by: Stateless at May 13, 2024 06:16 PM (jvJvP) 4 Finally the comments have slowed enough to keep up. Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at May 13, 2024 06:17 PM (+xYe0) 5 Someone told biden those Marines died on his watch. That's why he kept looking at it. Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2024 06:18 PM (Xu8xw) 6 In Joe's defense, he didn't remember checking his watch at all... Posted by: steevy at May 13, 2024 06:18 PM (FQmDC) 7 When I see Psakis' face I yell "Ewwwww!" like a 10 year old. Posted by: look whats not at May 13, 2024 06:18 PM (nakGR) 8 Liars lie the way the rest of us breathe... Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 13, 2024 06:18 PM (BpYfr) 9 Gutfeld trashed her on the Five late last week because she kept repeating that Trump called on the J6 protestors to go to the Capital. Every time she said it he interjected, "Peacefully!" She's a menace and it's not just carelessness. Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 13, 2024 06:19 PM (z+89e) 10 But it will be removed it the never happening reprint, so the can't sue clause applies. -Pcicrling back Posted by: Bete at May 13, 2024 06:19 PM (LX4y3) 11 Psaki? I'd hit it. Then back up. And hit it again. Then kiss and stab it. Posted by: Karon Fisher, Texas Tranny at May 13, 2024 06:19 PM (24QcD) 12 I want to be her when I grow up. Posted by: Black Lesbian Sideshow Bob at May 13, 2024 06:19 PM (PiwSw) 13 I'm sure the families will be ordered to pay her millions of dollars for all of the mental anguish this has caused her. Posted by: BruceWayne at May 13, 2024 06:20 PM (MGB5H) 14 https://youtu.be/BR6F0EdyulA MS DOS has been open sourced ... LOL. Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at May 13, 2024 06:20 PM (+xYe0) 15 Psaki, now a star anchor at MSNBC _____ Damning with faint praise.... Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 13, 2024 06:20 PM (cnsP4) 16 >>> Gold Star Family Members Lied When They Said Biden Kept Checking His Watch at the Dignified Remains Transfer Ceremony What an odd lie to make. If.they didn't like the old perv being there they could just say, "We don't like Creepy Pervy being here." Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 13, 2024 06:21 PM (cOq4q) 17 WHT wouldn't a book by Jen Pskanki on misinformation be filled with misinformation? Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2024 06:21 PM (fwDg9) 18 Does anyone really know what time its? Posted by: Chicago at May 13, 2024 06:22 PM (XeU6L) 19 I'm baffled every time someone says Psaki was a better spokes-hole than KJP. Do you guys not remember months of "I'm going to circle back?" Do you not remember her stuttering as she tried to double speak her way out of easily predictable questions? Do you not remember her flipping through her binder, then saying she had nothing on the topic? Do you not remember all the times she made flatly false claims when standard political bullshit talk would have satisfied the leftist WH Press Corps? She was a moron, every bit as dumb as KJP. Posted by: bonhomme at May 13, 2024 06:22 PM (Odg76) 20 5 Someone told biden those Marines died on his watch. That's why he kept looking at it. Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2024 06:18 PM (Xu8xw) ---------------- Now that is believable. Posted by: Decaf at May 13, 2024 06:23 PM (unUNN) 21 At least Biden did not squat. Posted by: Count de Monet at May 13, 2024 06:23 PM (4I/2K) 22 Her name is unpronounceable and therefore I find her guilty as charged. I mean, her name is basically the sound you make to annoy cats. Also, it sounds like a cat hoarking up a hair ball. These two things may be connected. Posted by: The Honorable Judge banana Dream at May 13, 2024 06:23 PM (Y6IkP) 23 P-saki is full of p-shit. Posted by: huerfano at May 13, 2024 06:23 PM (VGOMa) 24 This is the same thing the left did with the "hands up, don't shoot" lie. They peddled that lie for months. Then Obama's own partisan DOJ admitted this was all a lie, and without retracting their previous lies, the leftwing media simply stopped repeating "hands up, don't shoot." ____ We had tee-shirts with that phrase printed on them and we still had a lot of inventory at the time. What were we supposed to do? Posted by: Leftwing Media Merch at May 13, 2024 06:23 PM (cnsP4) 25 If every Leftist news outlet that spread misinformation and disinformation was banned from the public square ... there would not be a single one left standing. For example, here is a link to a CNN story about the shocking discovery of a mass grave of Native American children at a Canadian school. https://tinyurl.com/2tpx2j78 The article even uses words like confirmation, and bodies of children as young as 3. Read today, it is shocking how they reported wild speculation as absolute fact. Of course, they just spent $8,000,000 digging up ground, and have found zero bodies. Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 13, 2024 06:23 PM (HlyYF) 26 Time... Posted by: The Chambers Brothers at May 13, 2024 06:23 PM (XeU6L) 27 Eh. Marie Harf. I get my lying bints confused. In my defense, they are all blandly interchangeable liars. I was wrong. How hard is that? Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 13, 2024 06:23 PM (z+89e) 28 They just start repeating the lie all over again. Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace 1) Good people 2) J6 insurection 3) Catholics And some lyric that goes: And the list goes on. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 13, 2024 06:24 PM (y3DXx) 29 And the only thing this does id remind the public that worm brain did this when none of the middle remembered. Team Biden seems like #TeamOwnGoal Posted by: Bete at May 13, 2024 06:24 PM (LX4y3) 30 Pretty loose definition of "star", unless you mean within the Msnbc office pool. Posted by: THAT ONE GUY FROM THAT MOVIE at May 13, 2024 06:24 PM (jZEHM) 31 She was a moron, every bit as dumb as KJP. Posted by: bonhomme at May 13, 2024 06:22 PM (Odg76) She was semi-believable. KJP is just a joke. Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at May 13, 2024 06:24 PM (+xYe0) 32 "Psaki, now a star anchor at MSNBC" I'm sure her vlewer thinks she's just the greatest! Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at May 13, 2024 06:25 PM (a9CYf) 33 Hamilton shot first. Posted by: A. Burr at May 13, 2024 06:25 PM (un1lV) 34 Don't they still claim Trump is friends with Putin, who helped him steal the election? I'm not even sure they ever really mothballed that one. Posted by: ... at May 13, 2024 06:25 PM (lX8VI) 35 How could you cancel someone on MSNBC. That's self cancelling on it's own. Posted by: From about that Time at May 13, 2024 06:25 PM (4780s) 36 "5 Someone told biden those Marines died on his watch. That's why he kept looking at it." AOS Hall of Famer. Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at May 13, 2024 06:25 PM (zSyrn) 37 She was semi-believable. Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know She just kept circling back around the drain. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 13, 2024 06:26 PM (y3DXx) 38 Leftists have become way too comfortable lying about everything big and small. The entire world saw the video. We didn't imagine what we saw. Yet she thought she could just tell a blatant lie and get away with it. I hope the families follow through and sue her. Posted by: JackStraw at May 13, 2024 06:26 PM (LkLld) 39 I'ts not a lie, it's HER REALITY and reflects, like, what's important, man. Besides, Joey's a busy man and that whole ceremony thing cut into nap time. Posted by: Auspex at May 13, 2024 06:26 PM (j4U/Z) 40 Peppermint Patty would be sort of doable if she wasn't bat shit crazy and a godless commies scrunt. Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 13, 2024 06:26 PM (ggOTu) 41 I'm tired of being associated. Posted by: Raggety Ann at May 13, 2024 06:26 PM (XeU6L) 42 Lying Psackofshit. Ask her how she liked JfnKerry's cock. They ought have to pull every book printed so far and make her pay for it Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2024 06:26 PM (D/6Qm) 43 Say more? Hilarious! Does it contain all that information she was always saying she would psircle back to? Posted by: Pickled at May 13, 2024 06:26 PM (uiHdg) 44 But for some reason, President Biden kept checking his watch during the ceremony, making it look like he had more important places to be. _______________ He needed to make a boom-boom. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 13, 2024 06:27 PM (YqDXo) 45 LOL @ "Say More." That's just what the world needs. American journalists saying more things. I should write a book for American journalists. I'll call it "Die More." The sequel can be called "Or Else." Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 13, 2024 06:28 PM (0FoWg) 46 He wasn't checking his watch. It's an iWatch, he was getting texts from the lizard people that control him. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 13, 2024 06:28 PM (b4o9z) 47 There father is the first liar. Posted by: Eromero at May 13, 2024 06:28 PM (NxC5+) 48 Psaki truly is an idiot. The political hacks who created the scenario for those deaths would probably prefer it not be mentioned. Instead, that Psakidiot decides to bring the incompetence of our political masters into the public eye once again. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 13, 2024 06:29 PM (tT6L1) 49 She even lies about her hair color. Remember when something blew up while she was on vacation, and she had to rush back before she could get that 1/2" of dark roots dyed? Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 13, 2024 06:31 PM (a3Q+t) 50 You'd think she would be wearing skirts so her pants don't catch on fire. Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 13, 2024 06:31 PM (jpjFa) 51 Will the book get a second printing? Who's going to buy the first printing? Posted by: Tuna at May 13, 2024 06:31 PM (oaGWv) 52 Prager said a decade at least ago Leftists lie with the ease you breath Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2024 06:31 PM (fwDg9) 53 Remember that Democrat with the rat face? Larry something? Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2024 06:31 PM (fV+MH) 54 > She was semi-believable. KJP is just a joke. I never thought of Psaki as "semi-believable." She always struck me as a quarter-wit aspiring to be a half-wit. Posted by: bonhomme at May 13, 2024 06:31 PM (Odg76) 55 Even more grotesque: The idiots at the Bulwark think "norms" include an incompetent administration getting our soldiers killed. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 13, 2024 06:32 PM (tT6L1) 56 In other news, I think I'm going to buy a 1911. The previous owner was a movie gun guy, so maybe Alec Baldwin shot someone with it. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 13, 2024 06:32 PM (b4o9z) 57 https://youtu.be/BR6F0EdyulA MS DOS has been open sourced ... LOL. Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know I thought that writing a bootstrap loader and a basic DOS was the senior project for a computer science B.S. major. Gates was the guy who sold his roommates senior project to IBM for 50cents each machine/copy just so the real software could be run... Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 13, 2024 06:32 PM (cOq4q) 58 Who ya gonna believe? Me, or your lyin' eyes? Posted by: Jen Psaki, Former Interlocutus of the Republic & Still a Fake Redhead at May 13, 2024 06:32 PM (a3Q+t) 59 Will the book get a second printing? Who's going to buy the first printing? Posted by: Tuna at May 13, 2024 06:31 PM (oaGWv) ----------- That would be you and I. It'll be in all the book stores and American embassies. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 13, 2024 06:32 PM (tT6L1) 60 Sometimes I get so angry that Evil seems to be winning. I need to get back into my Bible. Posted by: jmel at May 13, 2024 06:33 PM (bVhJi) 61 Jen probably used Kristi Noem's ghost writer. Posted by: Auspex at May 13, 2024 06:33 PM (j4U/Z) 62 I got nooded but there is a place called Moron, Argentina. I shit you not. Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2024 06:33 PM (fV+MH) 63 It's the same thing they do with all of their lies. When the lies are proven, they briefly put the lie into a cool-off period. And then, a year later: They just start repeating the lie all over again. -- They start worrying that their greatest hits have been forgotten. They needn't. "How Are Republicans Going to Pay for These Budget Cuts?" is still on the charts, just ahead of "Inmate Population Continues to Rise Despite Falling Crime Rates." Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 13, 2024 06:33 PM (wzAuc) 64 Prager said a decade at least ago Leftists lie with the ease you breath Posted by: Skip They have to because their demands are antithetical to reality and human nature. They entire worldview requires a level of sociopathy. Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 13, 2024 06:33 PM (IG4Id) 65 KJP isn't one whit stupider than this haggard cunt, and she's prettier. Take the win. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 13, 2024 06:33 PM (0FoWg) 66 hiya Posted by: JT at May 13, 2024 06:34 PM (T4tVD) 67 56 In other news, I think I'm going to buy a 1911. The previous owner was a movie gun guy, so maybe Alec Baldwin shot someone with it. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 13, 2024 06:32 PM Nice. Now buying the "hardware" as an appreciating asset. Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 13, 2024 06:34 PM (HlyYF) 68 err, not book stores, libraries. Yeesh. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 13, 2024 06:34 PM (tT6L1) 69 5 Someone told biden those Marines died on his watch. That's why he kept looking at it. Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2024 06:18 PM (Xu8xw) How's the recovery? Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 13, 2024 06:34 PM (jpjFa) 70 1911's are kind of out of date. Don't you think? Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2024 06:35 PM (fV+MH) 71 Every Leftist organization ponys up for a few books Jen will get millions but it's all money laundry Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2024 06:35 PM (fwDg9) 72 Jen Psaki has a great future ahead of her in low rent porn shoots and Snuff films. Shaky camera work will do wonders for her complexion. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 13, 2024 06:35 PM (R/m4+) 73 Willowed from the previous thread: I was in Malmo for a week in the summer of 1983. It was a gorgeous little city. It was safe enough for 15 yo girl gymnasts to bop around late at night and go to the market for fresh strawberries and chocolates. Oh well. Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2024 05:12 PM (07+Zf) Nurse, National Geo Wild had a wonderful show on last night called "Billy & Molly-An Otter Love Story". I was thinking of you as I watched this story how an old man and his wif who live on the Shetland Islands in Scotland were adopter by a baby otter who crawled onto their dock. She obviously had lost her mom and was trying to forage for herself. I won't go into the story, but it got very misty a few times as the relationship between Billy and Molly (the otter) matured over the period of time she spent with the elderly couple. Nice little story. Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 13, 2024 06:35 PM (iODuv) 74 Will the book get a second printing? Who's going to buy the first printing? Posted by: Tuna ---------- Perhaps the Obama (either one) ploy. As of Nov. '22: Michelle Obama's "The Light We Carry: Overcoming in Uncertain Times" (Crown, 336 pp.) debuts at No. 1 this week on the USA TODAY Best-Selling Books list. This is not the first time the former first lady has debuted at the top spot on the list. Her first book, the memoir "Becoming," debuted at No. 1 in 2018 and stayed there for six consecutive weeks. "Becoming," which sold more than 17 million editions, Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 13, 2024 06:35 PM (XeU6L) 75 eleven No Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2024 06:35 PM (fwDg9) 76 Leftists have become way too comfortable lying about everything big and small. The entire world saw the video. We didn't imagine what we saw. Yet she thought she could just tell a blatant lie and get away with it. I hope the families follow through and sue her. Posted by: JackStraw at May 13, 2024 06:26 PM It isn't lying to the liberals. They truly believe they are correcting the record when it comes to biden and what the evil republicans are saying about him. Look at snopes and other leftist websites, they know they are lying but they don't care even when they get called on it. As I said above....it isn't a lie if you believe it is really how they think. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 13, 2024 06:35 PM (QNSds) 77 Pis-hockey just continuing her job of trying to convince the rubes that you shouldn't believe your own eyes. Posted by: Pickled at May 13, 2024 06:35 PM (uiHdg) 78 Journalists, talking heads, media perso alities, and (but not including Horde) politicians are all whores and liars. If the pie hole is open, they are lying. If you cannot see both hands. Check your wallet as they are steeling from you. Posted by: BifBewalski at May 13, 2024 06:36 PM (MsrgL) 79 56, buy it. 1911s are awesome despite the fact I won't voluntarily holster one for CCW. I've had several and the only truly bad one was a VERY early Colt Delta Elite 10mm. Now all the bugs are worked out but even guys on Colt Forum agree the early ones like mine, were shit. Posted by: LenNeal at May 13, 2024 06:36 PM (EP4y/) 80 He wasn't checking his watch. It's an iWatch, he was getting texts from the lizard people that control him. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 13, 2024 06:28 PM (b4o9z) _______________ "Salute the Marines." Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 13, 2024 06:37 PM (YqDXo) 81 Saw a new Hyundai Santa Fe, overall, I like the boxy appearance, unfortunately it has the worst rear end of any production vehicle since the Pontiac Aztec. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 13, 2024 06:37 PM (XV/Pl) 82 Hmmm...Egypt making noises because there might be an influx of Gazans trying to flee into Egypt. They put about 100 tanks on the border. Be interesting to see how strictly they seal it off. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 13, 2024 06:37 PM (ggOTu) 83 "Becoming," which sold more than 17 million editions, Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 13, 2024 06:35 PM (XeU6L) To whom? Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 13, 2024 06:37 PM (jpjFa) 84 I wasn't planning on using it for CCW, I got that covered. This would just be a range toy. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 13, 2024 06:37 PM (b4o9z) 85 70, for CCW yes. For any other work, no. I'm on record here, as saying I do foreign Tupperware for CCW but daily carry isn't warfare. Posted by: LenNeal at May 13, 2024 06:38 PM (EP4y/) 86 At least Biden did not squat. Posted by: Count de Monet at May 13, 2024 06:23 PM The Leader of the Free World skips leg day? Heaven forfend! Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 13, 2024 06:38 PM (a3Q+t) 87 The Left"s language is lies. Posted by: ... at May 13, 2024 06:38 PM (lX8VI) 88 1911's are kind of out of date. Don't you think? Posted by: eleven If 100+ years of 2nd Leutenants cannot break it. It is perfection and should not be messed with design-wise. Besides, 230 grains of short, fat, and slow works. Posted by: BifBewalski at May 13, 2024 06:39 PM (MsrgL) 89 tcn, to outhouses in Africa. Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2024 06:39 PM (D/6Qm) 90 Saw a new Hyundai Santa Fe, overall, I like the boxy appearance, unfortunately it has the worst rear end of any production vehicle since the Pontiac Aztec. Posted by: Thomas Bender That's nice. ~Brie Larson Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 13, 2024 06:39 PM (y3DXx) 91 @LenNeal, there was nothing wrong with the early 1911. the problems tended to be with owners trying to run anything other than 230 grain 45acp hardball ammo through the early 1911. Later designs became much more ammo friendly, but the early designs were not. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 13, 2024 06:39 PM (tT6L1) 92 Michelle Obama's "The Light We Carry: Overcoming in Uncertain Times" (Crown, 336 pp.) debuts at No. 1 this week on the USA TODAY Best-Selling Books list. This is not the first time the former first lady has debuted at the top spot on the list. Her first book, the memoir "Becoming," debuted at No. 1 in 2018 and stayed there for six consecutive weeks. "Becoming," which sold more than 17 million editions, Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 13, 2024 06:35 PM (XeU6L) _________________ Oh please. That's ridiculous. She should've named her memoir "Transitioning." Who is the market for that POS? The blacks? I doubt it. AWFLs? Possibly. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 13, 2024 06:39 PM (YqDXo) 93 Beautiful day out thar ! Posted by: JT at May 13, 2024 06:40 PM (T4tVD) 94 87 The Left"s language is lies. Posted by: ... at May 13, 2024 06:38 PM (lX8VI) We still have Charlottesville Good people on both sides Trump telling us to inject bleach Five Capitol police were killed on Jan. 6th etc.etc.etc And Joe himself continues to say it Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2024 06:41 PM (Akjoo) 95 1911's are kind of out of date. Don't you think? Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2024 06:35 PM nurse's surgeon is a 1911 shooter, which is how we know that our prayers for competence for her medical staff were answered. nurse herself knows her way around a 1911. Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 13, 2024 06:42 PM (a3Q+t) 96 A Turkish outfit makes a very tempting Combat Commander clone, plain Jane no bells or whistles. I hear good things. I'd get one but I'm not stepping down from 15+ 9mm to 8 of anything, cracker barrel arguments notwithstanding. Posted by: LenNeal at May 13, 2024 06:42 PM (EP4y/) 97 And Joe himself continues to say it Posted by: It's me donna at May 13, 2024 06:41 PM (Akjoo) -------------- Well, remember, when Joe says something bizarre and completely off the wall, that's just Joe being Joe. However, when Joe repeats a myth, that's Joe speaking truth to power. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 13, 2024 06:42 PM (tT6L1) 98 And I probably should have realized it sooner, but the 1911 fits my hands really well. I've got big palms, but freakishly short hobbit fingers. Single stacks work well for me. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 13, 2024 06:42 PM (b4o9z) 99 The "fact checkers" kept saying I was a crazy conspiracy theorist. Harassed me and my whole family. Called us names, fought with us. Then the rains came and they all drowned... Posted by: Noah at May 13, 2024 06:43 PM (MeG8a) 100 I'm super SUPER surprised to see that this nasty scrunt Commie is a really nasty cunt. I mean, who would have thought! Can't believe an immoral sack of garbage like her wold be super SUPER immoral and awful. Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at May 13, 2024 06:43 PM (et1vG) 101 How's the recovery? Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief I'm tired and achy and bored. But pain is manageable with Tylenol and ibuprofen rather than the oxycodone they gave me. That shit sucks. Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2024 06:44 PM (EcZ7+) 102 1911's are kind of out of date. Don't you think? Posted by: eleven This is why they have the 2011. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 13, 2024 06:45 PM (cOq4q) 103 Ha! They decided they want to do a virtual DNC convention now for some curious unknowable reason. From Breitbart: https://tinyurl.com/dnccowards Posted by: banana Dream at May 13, 2024 06:45 PM (Y6IkP) 104 I love my Colt 80 series Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2024 06:45 PM (fwDg9) 105 University of Washington's "Gaza camp" is being lead and directed by Seattle Times columnist Aziz Jenejo. http://tiny.cc/29t2yz Posted by: bonhomme at May 13, 2024 06:46 PM (Odg76) 106 By the way, is anyone else surprised to find out Psaki is a "star anchor" at MSNBC? I know I'm surprised. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 13, 2024 06:46 PM (tT6L1) 107 Who is the market for that POS? The blacks? I doubt it. AWFLs? Possibly. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 13, 2024 06:39 PM -- It's a market of 6,000,100. A hundred who'll read it and 6 million who'll place it conspicuously in a common area of their home. Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 13, 2024 06:46 PM (wzAuc) 108 And all the Trayvon Martin lies. I don't know if they ever had a "cooling off" period for those. Seems they just kept repeating them even after they were proven to be lies. Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 13, 2024 06:46 PM (fv27Y) 109 Vivek Ramaswamy will join Trump in court Tuesday to show his support. Posted by: redridinghood at May 13, 2024 06:47 PM (NpAcC) 110 This is the By Any Means Necessary thought processes at work. If you honestly believe that any thing you do, any lie you tell is in service of the Greater Good, then you do the thing, you tell the lie. You send innocent people to jail, you do all the evil things that appall most normal non-psychotic people. Posted by: Noah at May 13, 2024 06:47 PM (MeG8a) 111 rather than the oxycodone they gave me. That shit sucks. Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2024 06:44 PM (EcZ7+) Agree 100%. Feel better soon. Posted by: Auspex at May 13, 2024 06:47 PM (j4U/Z) 112 >>> Posted by: redridinghood at May 13, 2024 06:47 PM (NpAcC) A saw where J.D. Vance was there today. Posted by: banana Dream at May 13, 2024 06:48 PM (Y6IkP) 113 Psaki reminds me of the line in the Jam's Goin Underground, ======= "Braying sheep on the TV screen Make this boy shout Make this boy scream I'm going underground." Posted by: whig at May 13, 2024 06:48 PM (Z+tXy) 114 Off soggy Ark sock. Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 13, 2024 06:48 PM (MeG8a) 115 Pravda Psaki pivots pusillanimously. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2024 06:48 PM (Z8TmJ) 116 98 An underrated aspect of any pistol is, Does it fit your hand. If it does, ACQUIRE IT. I have trouble with A1s as the frame modification and trigger cutout force me to grip the whole gun, or to pivot my index finger out at an unnatural angle. I like the original 1911 setup for no other reason than it fits better. Posted by: LenNeal at May 13, 2024 06:48 PM (EP4y/) 117 It's a market of 6,000,100. A hundred who'll read it and 6 million who'll place it conspicuously in a common area of their home. Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 13, 2024 06:46 Perfect for an AWFL TEAMS/Zoom background picture. Posted by: Beartooth at May 13, 2024 06:49 PM (XT+5H) 118 No doubt she thought herself immune because she's always gotten a break for her looks. Posted by: Eeyore at May 13, 2024 06:49 PM (1bNHn) 119 110 This is the By Any Means Necessary thought processes at work. If you honestly believe that any thing you do, any lie you tell is in service of the Greater Good, then you do the thing, you tell the lie. You send innocent people to jail, you do all the evil things that appall most normal non-psychotic people. Posted by: Noah In short, being Stan's minions leads and individual to give themselves mental justifications for evil deeds. Posted by: whig at May 13, 2024 06:49 PM (Z+tXy) 120 Vivek Ramaswamy will join Trump in court Tuesday to show his support. Posted by: redridinghood It's becoming sort of a pilgrimage. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 13, 2024 06:49 PM (cOq4q) 121 So so so many norms restored. Posted by: Montec at May 13, 2024 06:49 PM (Y6Wgg) 122 I will not have narcotics impugned in this thread! Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2024 06:50 PM (fV+MH) 123 H&K P30s and VP9s have some of the best ergonomics, and can be improved with the extra grip side panels and backstraps they supply with each one. Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 13, 2024 06:50 PM (a3Q+t) 124 1911s feel really good in my hands. I still don't like them and I won't carry them. I can break down a H&K, Glock, Sig Sauer, etc. to field cleaning state in about four seconds with no tools. My preferred H&K carry has no external safety to grabass with if I ever need to use it for real. I've never in my life had a double fire with any gun but a 1911. I've never had any gun be even close to as picky with ammo and magazines as a 1911. Posted by: bonhomme at May 13, 2024 06:51 PM (Odg76) 125 Codone sparingly helps a great deal with my Crohns. Tylenol alone is like a tic tac and I can't take anti-inflammatories Posted by: ... at May 13, 2024 06:51 PM (lX8VI) 126 In other news, I think I'm going to buy a 1911. The previous owner was a movie gun guy, so maybe Alec Baldwin shot someone with it. Posted by: sniffybigtoe -------------------------------- I saw an ad for 1911's for $270 a few weeks ago, but the were already sold out. It was one of the big online sellers to. Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 13, 2024 06:52 PM (fv27Y) 127 Psaki's mother was a Psychotherapist. Explains a lot. Mom Irish, dad, Greek heritage. Great mix there! LOL! Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 13, 2024 06:52 PM (iODuv) 128 PSA: There are websites that supply diagrams of all measurements of most pistols. Well worth checking out for comparisons of grip shapes, and particularly for holster selection. Posted by: LenNeal at May 13, 2024 06:52 PM (EP4y/) 129 I like my 1911. I don't really like the way the Glock feels in my hand. And I really don't like the lack of a beaver tail. Unacceptable. Springfield fixed that with the XDs. They're fine. But for me, the 1911 is it. No other .45 ACP feels "right" to me. shrugs Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 13, 2024 06:52 PM (0FoWg) 130 I have trouble with A1s as the frame modification and trigger cutout force me to grip the whole gun, or to pivot my index finger out at an unnatural angle. I like the original 1911 setup for no other reason than it fits better. Posted by: LenNeal ---------- You are correct that proper hand fit of a handgun (or stock fit for long arms) makes shooting accurately with that firearm far easier. 1911-A1's came about post WWI because for people with below average military length fingers had a hard time pulling the trigger straight back causing inaccuracy. So the A1 was designed to allow people with smaller hands than normal reach the trigger properly. Posted by: whig at May 13, 2024 06:53 PM (Z+tXy) 131 Who's got Oxy? Nurse? Posted by: LenNeal at May 13, 2024 06:53 PM (EP4y/) 132 Politics aside Jen's a Shroedingers 1/0 Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2024 06:53 PM (fV+MH) 133 I had an idea for "Silver and Black Lives Matter" Tee shirts for dumb ass Raider fans. Sadly my whiteness prevented me from cashing in. I still think it is a money maker, provided the natives don't burn down the factory. Posted by: Disgusted at May 13, 2024 06:54 PM (Z8Yh2) 134 A saw where J.D. Vance was there today. Posted by: banana Dream at May 13, 2024 06:48 PM (Y6IkP) ********* Yes. As well as Sen. Tommy Tuberville and Rep. Nicole Malliotakis. Posted by: redridinghood at May 13, 2024 06:55 PM (NpAcC) 135 Vivek Ramaswamy will join Trump in court Tuesday to show his support. Posted by: redridinghood at May 13, 2024 06:47 PM (NpAcC) Good. I like Vivek. He's young, smart and knows the game. President Trump would do well to place him in charge of the border. Be nice to see Border Rangers patrolling on their elephants running down the illegal invaders and tossing a few in the air before stomping them into a mudhole. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 13, 2024 06:55 PM (R/m4+) 136 Random shot at Raider fans. lol Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2024 06:55 PM (fV+MH) 137 Surprise Gun Thread! I don't care for the 1911 as I don't seem to be able to be accurate with it the way I can with a 9 mm or 40 cal, and always assumed the primary purpose of a weapon is to hit what you're aiming at. Posted by: Auspex at May 13, 2024 06:55 PM (j4U/Z) 138 129 I like my 1911. I don't really like the way the Glock feels in my hand. And I really don't like the lack of a beaver tail. Unacceptable. Springfield fixed that with the XDs. They're fine. But for me, the 1911 is it. No other .45 ACP feels "right" to me. shrugs Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice ====== You should try a 1917 model revolver then from S&W or Colt. J/K. Glocks use a different grip angle than a 1911 and you will see the same issue that some have with Lugers or the original Ruger .22 LR handgun series. Ruger came out with a 22-45 model specifically for people accustomed to the 1911 grip angle and safety location. Posted by: whig at May 13, 2024 06:56 PM (Z+tXy) 139 I'm a 1911 guy through and through. That said, one needs to spend the time mastering the controls on a 1911. 1911's have a natural point of aim, but the controls take time to get used to. If you don't have the time or the inclination, I suggest Glock or some other polymer framed pistol which has fewer external devices to deal with. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 13, 2024 06:56 PM (tT6L1) 140 The one I am hopefully getting is an A1 clone. Hopefully, it's still there when I can get back to the store on Wed. I did some internet searching and it was only made for 1 year and only something like 1000 were made. It was made by CZ in 2015 when Colt acquired them. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 13, 2024 06:56 PM (b4o9z) 141 Who is the market for that POS? The blacks? I doubt it. AWFLs? Possibly. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara I doubt they can read seeing as they don't know what a computer is. Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2024 06:57 PM (/fpim) 142 I have gorilla hands and will shoot anything that does not break my hand, wrist, arm, or shoulder. Posted by: Eromero at May 13, 2024 06:59 PM (NxC5+) 143 My everyday carry is the execrated TARA TM-9. The design is good, the QC... generally not so much. I got a good one. I do in fact trust my life to this specific, individual pistol I have examined and disassembled and reassembled multiple times. It's a Glock competitor but not a clone. The other is S&W J-frame. I feel at this point the 1911, which I would carry into actual combat, isn't my best choice for CCW everyday carry. As always, variety is the spice of life. Posted by: LenNeal at May 13, 2024 06:59 PM (EP4y/) 144 Michelle Obama's "The Light We Carry: Overcoming in Uncertain Times" ______ Reminds me of Obama being praised as the 'lightbringer'. Or lucifer in the old tongue Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 13, 2024 06:59 PM (cnsP4) 145 Nothing like a warm 1911 in one's hand. Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 13, 2024 06:59 PM (AJDwy) 146 John Moses Browning designed the .45 ACP as a 200 gr. bullet, and the 1911 was originally equipped with springs and timing set up to accommodate that load. Bureau of Ordnance required the 230 gr. bullet, to more closely match the characteristics of the previous 240 gr. Colt revolver load, as was used the Single Action Army. My favorite though is the 185 gr. load in the 1911. Fast, flat trajectory out to 50 yards, and though not the "Thump" of the 230, that extra couple hundred of feet per second WILL make a mark on the receiving end. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at May 13, 2024 07:00 PM (e6UQI) 147 132 Haha What's in the box? Posted by: LenNeal at May 13, 2024 07:00 PM (EP4y/) 148 I don't care for the 1911 as I don't seem to be able to be accurate with it the way I can with a 9 mm or 40 cal, and always assumed the primary purpose of a weapon is to hit what you're aiming at. Posted by: Auspex ------- Might be a fit to hand issue which causes the 1911 to not 'point' accurately for you. Sometimes the A1 variant solves the issue and sometimes it can be resolved by grip changes. Early poly framed firearms had people using dremel tools to alter the grips to more of one's liking. Later, interchangeable grip modules were developed by Walther P99 series. The original S&W Third Generation sorta had grip modules with the rounded and straight grip shells. That is one the demarkers between it and the earlier 2nd Generation models which used traditional grip styles instead of the wrap around design of the 3rd. The Pachymyr, Uncle Mikes, etc. for the 3rd Generation Smiths make them much chunkier than the very thin nylon grip OEM Smith grip shells. Posted by: whig at May 13, 2024 07:01 PM (Z+tXy) 149 There are few people who truly epitomize the term "cunt" more than Psaki Posted by: Rbastid at May 13, 2024 07:01 PM (15Gmd) 150 My revolver feels like part of my hand from the first time I picked it up. Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2024 07:02 PM (D/6Qm) 151 My favorite though is the 185 gr. load in the 1911. Posted by: Jim at May 13, 2024 07:00 PM (e6UQI) It's also extremely pleasant to shoot. And it doesn't beat up the pistols as much. I have a Colt Gold Cup that isn't really designed for full power 230 grain loads. That's all I use now. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2024 07:02 PM (d9fT1) 152 111 rather than the oxycodone they gave me. That shit sucks. Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2024 06:44 PM -- Honest to God, I don't know how anyone can get addicted to that stuff. I was prescribed it during a months-long span of waiting for hip surgery that kept getting delayed by terrible timing of events. But I couldn't stay on it because the constipation was even worse than the hip pain. Oxy is not sexy. Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 13, 2024 07:02 PM (wzAuc) 153 "What's in the box?" Kitteh. Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2024 07:02 PM (fV+MH) 154 I've shot just about everyy handgun expect a .44 caliber revolver, because I'm not an idiot, but nothing shoots as nicely as a 1911. That heavy spring with a .45 caliber is just different. Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 13, 2024 07:02 PM (AJDwy) 155 No gun fits my hand. Every gun fits my hand - I just wrap around whatever the gun maker provided. I do not think I am a good enough eye-hand athlete that any gun would substantially make me a better shot. Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 13, 2024 07:02 PM (HlyYF) 156 I love my 1911s. My primary carry is a SA EMP Ronin. It's a micro 1911 that shoots 9mm. It's what I can conceal carry. A .45 is too big for me to conceal and although WA state is an open carry state, I wouldn't dare. My bedside pistol is a full sized 1911. Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2024 07:02 PM (cqahf) 157 I don't have a TARA. I've never even shot one. But I have another Serb gun, a rifle, and I loooove that rifle. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 13, 2024 07:03 PM (0FoWg) 158 It was made by CZ in 2015 when Colt acquired them. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 13, 2024 06:56 PM (b4o9z) I think it's the other way around... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2024 07:03 PM (d9fT1) 159 The 185 or the 230. I like both and for .45. Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 13, 2024 07:03 PM (as3uC) 160 I like my 1911 (a modern variant S&W 1406) because it is heavier than my glock model 30 and therefore the recoil is less. Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 13, 2024 07:03 PM (MeG8a) 161 a song about bread https://youtu.be/J1DAmmROUX8 Posted by: Kindltot at May 13, 2024 07:04 PM (D7oie) 162 Where the hell is browndog? It's almost puck drop. Posted by: JackStraw at May 13, 2024 07:04 PM (LkLld) 163 To my great disappointment my daughter upon reaching puberty kind of lost interest in guns and shooting. So the safe choice there is the Smith and Wesson K-frame. Posted by: LenNeal at May 13, 2024 07:05 PM (EP4y/) 164 She is indirectly defaming the Gold Star Families who spoke about Biden's watch-checking as liars, and they've informed this rottencrotch bitch that she should lawyer up. Where are the families located? Because a blue state would likely jail them for bringing a lawsuit against Psaki. Posted by: 18-1 at May 13, 2024 07:05 PM (ibTVg) 165 Jen's book will turn out to contain less than 0.001 percent of the number of lies that will be in Joe's ghostwritten book about his 4 years in office. Posted by: Gref at May 13, 2024 07:05 PM (5fDan) 166 5 metamucils per oxy, min. Posted by: eleven at May 13, 2024 07:05 PM (fV+MH) 167 150 My revolver feels like part of my hand from the first time I picked it up. Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2024 07:02 PM Every good shooter I know says that. Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 13, 2024 07:05 PM (HlyYF) 168 My bedside gun is a shotgun. Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2024 07:05 PM (D/6Qm) 169 The only way I can conceal the 1911 is with a sticky holster in the area of my gentles, where I am happy my particular version has a thumb safety. Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 13, 2024 07:05 PM (MeG8a) 170 This is the By Any Means Necessary thought processes at work. If you honestly believe that any thing you do, any lie you tell is in service of the Greater Good, then you do the thing, you tell the lie. You send innocent people to jail, you do all the evil things that appall most normal non-psychotic people. Posted by: Noah at May 13, 2024 06:47 PM Thank you.....this was the point I was trying to make upthread. This kind of mindset is what led to the holocaust, the killing fields in Cambodia, stalin's purges, mao's cultural revolution, etc. Billions of people have been murdered in the name of the greater good and the left is 100% in on that mindset. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 13, 2024 07:06 PM (QNSds) 171 A .45 is too big for me to conceal and although WA state is an open carry state, I wouldn't dare. Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2024 07:02 PM (cqahf) Next time we shoot together I'll let you shoot my Kimber Commander. Even effete 9mm whiny-babies can handle it. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2024 07:06 PM (d9fT1) 172 168 My bedside gun is a shotgun. Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2024 07:05 PM (D/6Qm The racking of a shotgun is a great deterrent Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 13, 2024 07:07 PM (AJDwy) 173 Nurse, I hope you're feeling better. Thank goodness you got into the ER when you did! Prayers from NJ. Here's a little trailer from an otter movie that was on National Geo last night. I'm not ashamed to admit it, but it got a little misty in the room. Such a happy story. Click on the trailer on this site: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31189897/ Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 13, 2024 07:07 PM (iODuv) 174 157 YD I created some commotion in Tivat Montenegro by wearing a Zastava USA T-shirt because I thought it was funny, only to realize it made everyone in town think I'm a gunrunner. I have photos. Posted by: LenNeal at May 13, 2024 07:07 PM (EP4y/) 175 Posted by: Gref at May 13, 2024 07:05 PM (5fDan) I can't imagine even the faithful believing the Big Guy "wrote" a book. Unless it started out with "it was the best of times, and the time when my my son Beau died fighting the Jews in Crimea, and the worst of timealinprazure...." Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 13, 2024 07:08 PM (0FoWg) 176 Pillage Idiot, I have a Star 9mm that was just ok but this Tarus .357 just feels like home. You know who you are and you know what you did! Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2024 07:08 PM (D/6Qm) 177 My bedside gun is a shotgun. Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2024 07:05 PM (D/6Qm) I didn't know you were writing country songs now. Posted by: ... at May 13, 2024 07:08 PM (lX8VI) 178 My bedside gun is a shotgun. Posted by: Ben Had Yep. Mossberg 12 ga. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 13, 2024 07:09 PM (rXpXk) 179 168 My bedside gun is a shotgun. Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2024 07:05 PM Yep. My wife has the shotgun in case anybody gets past me. Evolution has taught most predators NOT to mess with Momma Bear with cubs around. Unfortunately, we still have a few predators that have not yet learned that lesson. Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 13, 2024 07:09 PM (HlyYF) 180 Next time we shoot together I'll let you shoot my Kimber Commander. Even effete 9mm whiny-babies can handle it. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May Weasel has a Kimber custom micro in .45 which I love love love. Both yours and his are well out of my price range. Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2024 07:10 PM (EmS+m) 181 150 My revolver feels like part of my hand from the first time I picked it up. Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2024 07:02 PM (D/6Qm) Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane all rolled in one. Posted by: Eromero at May 13, 2024 07:12 PM (NxC5+) 182 I've shot just about everyy handgun expect a .44 caliber revolver, because I'm not an idiot, but nothing shoots as nicely as a 1911. That heavy spring with a .45 caliber is just different. Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 13, 2024 07:02 PM (AJDwy) Concur. My 1911 is lights out and it just feels right whenever I shoot it. From Nambus to Czs to Stars to Berettas to Webleys the 1911 just always feels "right" and is a breeze to shoot accurately for me. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 13, 2024 07:12 PM (R/m4+) 183 Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy Thank you! The horde is the best. I have gotten many messages of encouragement and many prayers through this. I am humbled and so very thankful. Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2024 07:12 PM (EmS+m) 184 TARA Aerospace is so called as their original business isn't guns, but cartridges for ejection seat systems. Whole elaborate tale how they became a firearm manufacturer but honestly, their products are as good as anybody. The initial run of pistols was kind of a beta test and some guns, like mine, are terrific; others are unfixable shit. Posted by: LenNeal at May 13, 2024 07:12 PM (EP4y/) 185 Even that bastard CBD was nice to me for a millisecond! Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2024 07:13 PM (EmS+m) 186 139 I'm a 1911 guy through and through. That said, one needs to spend the time mastering the controls on a 1911. 1911's have a natural point of aim, but the controls take time to get used to. If you don't have the time or the inclination, I suggest Glock or some other polymer framed pistol which has fewer external devices to deal with. Posted by: blake The 1911 points naturally for some but others it does not. You make a very good point about the 1911---If you are not comfortable carrying cocked and locked, then you should not carry the 1911 for self protection. Israeli style of unloaded chamber and racking only immediately before use was designed for raw recruits and to avoid ADs, not as a best model for self defense. Same problem with idiots carrying a modern double action revolver on an empty chamber. Posted by: whig at May 13, 2024 07:13 PM (Z+tXy) 187 Yup, I keep a 12ga. in the room with me. That's the gun I most trust myself with at short range if I'm wakened by an intruder after I drank too much, have a bellyache, and can't find my eyeglasses. That's the one for home defense. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 13, 2024 07:14 PM (0FoWg) 188 > My wife has the shotgun in case anybody gets past me. Pump shotgun? If so, does she regularly practice the full manual of arms? Can she clear malfunctions in the dark? Reload? Racking under stress? Taking off the safety and firing under stress? How many rounds per year does she put through it? Many shotguns are one of the most difficult categories of arms to handle properly, and most people treat them as if they're the easiest. Posted by: bonhomme at May 13, 2024 07:14 PM (Odg76) 189 Biden did check his watch at least three times, according to photos and video reviewed by USA TODAY. Several family members of fallen service members who attended the ceremony have criticized Biden for checking his watch. Why would the president wear a watch? He has a human clock that follows him everywhere telling him what time it is and what's next. Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2024 07:15 PM (RJiwi) 190 Next time we shoot together I'll let you shoot my Kimber Commander. Even effete 9mm whiny-babies can handle it. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2024 07:06 PM Both you and nurse seemed to esteem a certain (Commander-sized) Les Baer, based on the results you achieved with it. Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 13, 2024 07:15 PM (a3Q+t) 191 Jen Psaki-hack, your future as a tunnel bunny awaits. Posted by: Anna Puma at May 13, 2024 07:16 PM (x/OXY) 192 Yup, I keep a 12ga. in the room with me. That's the gun I most trust myself with at short range if I'm wakened by an intruder after I drank too much, have a bellyache, and can't find my eyeglasses. That's the one for home defense.[/i Do NOT go in there. Whooooo!!! Posted by: YD's dog at May 13, 2024 07:16 PM (CsUN+) 193 150 My revolver feels like part of my hand from the first time I picked it up. Posted by: Ben Had ====== If it is a K Frame Smith and Wesson, a large proportion of the people with that firearm agree. For whatever reason, Smith hit it out of the park with the K Frame as far as ergonomics. Browning High Power is another and some love the CZ75 for the same reason. Posted by: whig at May 13, 2024 07:16 PM (Z+tXy) 194 I have a 1911 chambered in 9mm. My carry is P365 but I wish I could carry the P320... Posted by: lin-duh (sharon's (willow's apprentice) apprentice) at May 13, 2024 07:16 PM (K2iv3) 195 Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2024 07:16 PM (CsUN+) 196 YD, point and shoot is optimum in those situations and a shotgun covers a lot of debilitating area. Hugs you and that sweet baby girl. Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2024 07:16 PM (D/6Qm) 197 Even that bastard CBD was nice to me for a millisecond! Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2024 07:13 PM (EmS+m) LOL! LOL!! Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 13, 2024 07:17 PM (iODuv) 198 I have now a single 12ga that was my dad's from his early days. But still can't imagine it would be the best firearm as a inside house Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2024 07:18 PM (fwDg9) 199 The 1911 points naturally for some but others it does not. You make a very good point about the 1911---If you are not comfortable carrying cocked and locked, then you should not carry the 1911 for self protection. H&K USP. One in the chamber. Decock lever. First round it like a revolver. Subsequent rounds same as a semi. Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2024 07:18 PM (RJiwi) 200 For many, many years my carry was the Bill Jordan Choice: M19 .357 loaded with 158 grain softpoint half jacket CCI Lawmans. To me, .45ACP was a step down. I never carried a 1911 seriously and only did the 10mm as it seemed to offer what I already had in a semi automatic. So going 9mm... what difference does it make, it'll never be King Of The Hill. Posted by: LenNeal at May 13, 2024 07:18 PM (EP4y/) 201 Thank you! The horde is the best. I have gotten many messages of encouragement and many prayers through this. I am humbled and so very thankful. Posted by: nurse ratched Sorry you didn't get to go on your date. Posted by: Tuna at May 13, 2024 07:18 PM (oaGWv) 202 lin-duh, how are you feeling? Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2024 07:19 PM (D/6Qm) 203 188 > My wife has the shotgun in case anybody gets past me. Pump shotgun? If so, does she regularly practice the full manual of arms? Can she clear malfunctions in the dark? Reload? Racking under stress? Taking off the safety and firing under stress? How many rounds per year does she put through it? Many shotguns are one of the most difficult categories of arms to handle properly, and most people treat them as if they're the easiest. Posted by: bonhomme at May 13, 2024 07:14 PM The answer is literally "no" to all of your excellent recommendations. She knows how to get the safety off, and she has never missed her target while shooting the shotgun. The good news is that I am building a range at our farm! Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 13, 2024 07:19 PM (HlyYF) 204 You all know Joey recommends a 12 ga as well? But, yeah, pump action, shot in the first few rounds and slugs for the last. Posted by: Auspex at May 13, 2024 07:19 PM (j4U/Z) 205 Thank you! The horde is the best. I have gotten many messages of encouragement and many prayers through this. I am humbled and so very thankful. Posted by: nurse ratched Sorry you didn't get to go on your date. Posted by: Tuna ----- Is there another date planned???? Posted by: lin-duh (sharon's (willow's apprentice) apprentice) at May 13, 2024 07:19 PM (K2iv3) 206 I have a 1911 chambered in 9mm. My carry is P365 but I wish I could carry the P320... Posted by: lin-duh (sharon's (willow's apprentice) apprentice) at May 13, 2024 07:16 PM Dress around it. Vertical stripes can be quite slimming. Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 13, 2024 07:20 PM (a3Q+t) 207 201 Thank you! The horde is the best. I have gotten many messages of encouragement and many prayers through this. I am humbled and so very thankful. Posted by: nurse ratched Sorry you didn't get to go on your date. Posted by: Tuna at May 13, 2024 07:18 PM (oaGWv Boo. I didn't know about this. Sorry to hear of your troubles, nurse! We luv ya! Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 13, 2024 07:20 PM (AJDwy) 208 > YD, point and shoot is optimum in those situations and a shotgun covers a lot of debilitating area. So very very wrong. At household hallway distance, shotgun pellet spread is softball sized. Unless you've got an illegally short shotgun, you need to aim. If you don't believe me, measure the longest distance in your home and go pattern your shotgun at that distance. Posted by: bonhomme at May 13, 2024 07:20 PM (Odg76) 209 187 Yup, I keep a 12ga. in the room with me. That's the gun I most trust myself with at short range if I'm wakened by an intruder after I drank too much, have a bellyache, and can't find my eyeglasses. That's the one for home defense. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice Twelves are fine if you practice with them but if not, a twenty gauge is fine at self defense ranges. Even a 20 gauge generates the firepower of two 44 Magnums going off as far as energy and often you can get youth stocks that help fit smaller statured people easier. I also prefer shooting slugs with a twenty far more than a twelve in repeated strings. I like the 16 gauge but even regular ammo for it leaving out slugs or buckshot is difficult and expensive. Most of the firearms in that cartridge also have field hunting length barrels that can be a problem for self defense. Posted by: whig at May 13, 2024 07:20 PM (Z+tXy) 210 Scotland suddenly has a lot of mosquitoes https://www.popsci.com/science/mosquitoes-scotland/ As the global temperature rises, so too does the range of tropical concerns. One of the most prominent examples of this is the increasing presence in temperate zones of vector-borne diseases once confined to regions around the equator–diseases that are carried by living organisms, including mosquitoes, ticks, fleas, and lice. Wow, I had no idea that areas like the Boundary Water Canoe Area and the Alaskan Wildlife Reserve have no mosquitoes, because it's cold. Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2024 07:20 PM (CsUN+) 211 Psaki, now a star anchor at MSNBC - Blatant lying is a good look for a journalist. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 13, 2024 07:20 PM (L/fGl) 212 nurse r, may your mending be swift and complete! Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 13, 2024 07:20 PM (MeG8a) 213 Remember, lefties claim the right peddles "disinformation" while the left, when it makes a rare "error," immediately corrects that error.……… If the Left’s projection was a tree it would be a giant sequoia. If it was a spice it would be a Carolina Reaper. If it was a liar it would be Joe Biden. Posted by: polynikes at May 13, 2024 07:21 PM (MNhXM) 214 Hugs you and that sweet baby girl. Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2024 07:16 PM (D/6Qm) Thanks. She's recovered from her last surgery. Looking great! Walking and talking well, again. Just started preschool again. Barely in time for the end of the year, but at least she'll get to see her friends first. fingers crossed." Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 13, 2024 07:21 PM (0FoWg) 215 At household hallway distance, shotgun pellet spread is softball sized. Unless you've got an illegally short shotgun, you need to aim. If you don't believe me, measure the longest distance in your home and go pattern your shotgun at that distance. Posted by: bonhomme ====== True. Can have an over penetrative problem too especially if firing slugs. Most of them can easily plow through multiple walls and still kill. Posted by: whig at May 13, 2024 07:22 PM (Z+tXy) 216 Democrats, especially political ones, hate veterans. They think they are all " suckers and losers". Democrats always accuse Republicans of what they themselves are thinking or doing. Posted by: william ferrin at May 13, 2024 07:22 PM (zZMPX) 217 Ben Had, I was feeling no pain the first 48 hours but I have a bit of pain now. He did say I would probably be uncomfortable for about a week since the heat does cause some tissue damage. Also said, sometimes it takes a few week before you feel the full benefit... Posted by: lin-duh (sharon's (willow's apprentice) apprentice) at May 13, 2024 07:22 PM (K2iv3) 218 A shotgun provides time. A pistol miss is a miss A shotgun miss still hits the perp somewhere. Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2024 07:23 PM (D/6Qm) 219 Democrats, especially political ones, hate veterans. They think they are all " suckers and losers". Democrats always accuse Republicans of what they themselves are thinking or doing. Posted by: william ferrin at May 13, 2024 07:22 PM (zZMPX) Yup Posted by: ... at May 13, 2024 07:23 PM (lX8VI) 220 the café is open nood Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 13, 2024 07:23 PM (ZdexC) 221 Nurse.... I take that "appendix carry" is no longer an option for you, now? /s Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at May 13, 2024 07:24 PM (e6UQI) 222 So very very wrong. At household hallway distance, shotgun pellet spread is softball sized. Unless you've got an illegally short shotgun, you need to aim. If you don't believe me, measure the longest distance in your home and go pattern your shotgun at that distance. Posted by: bonhomme at May 13, 2024 07:20 PM (Odg7 You can adjust the choke. Posted by: polynikes at May 13, 2024 07:24 PM (MNhXM) 223 Speaking of lying journalists . . . RNC Research @RNCResearch JAKE SULLIVAN: "No president has stood stronger with Israel than Joe Biden" (who is really abandoning Israel to appease his pro-Hamas base) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 13, 2024 07:24 PM (L/fGl) 224 The big tell on suckers and losers was how excited the Bulwark Boys to say it. They so badly wanted to tell the world what they really thought of the marks in their Global War Machine. Posted by: ... at May 13, 2024 07:25 PM (lX8VI) 225 Posted by: bonhomme at May 13, 2024 07:20 PM (Odg76) I keep mine with a 28" barrel and open choke. Nice balance between spread and penetration. Yes, you have to aim. But at those ranges, practically any shot will land, and that buckshot one will definitely instantly kill or debilitate. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 13, 2024 07:25 PM (0FoWg) 226 I also prefer shooting slugs with a twenty far more than a twelve in repeated strings. Posted by: whig at May 13, 2024 07:20 PM You gain very little, except for increased recoil, with 12 ga. slugs, as opposed to 20. For slugs only, 20 is the way to go. The Savage/Stevens 220 is a significantly underappreciated shotgun for slugs. Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 13, 2024 07:25 PM (a3Q+t) 227 H&K USP. One in the chamber. Decock lever. First round it like a revolver. Subsequent rounds same as a semi. Posted by: rickb223 ======= Due to neuropathy in the hands plus arthritis, and lack of range time recently due to medical issues, I went back to Smith and Wesson 3rd Generation DAOs. Virtually no recoil shooting strings with a 5946 and not much with its lighter alloy cousins 5944 and 5943. Even the compact 6946 handles recoil with aplomb. You can still get new OEM mags for them, plenty of parts, and are built like tanks. Trigger is about like Smith and Wesson revolvers which I learned to shoot with as well. Posted by: whig at May 13, 2024 07:26 PM (Z+tXy) 228 210 Scotland suddenly has a lot of mosquitoes https://www.popsci.com/science/mosquitoes-scotland/ As the global temperature rises, so too does the range of tropical concerns. One of the most prominent examples of this is the increasing presence in temperate zones of vector-borne diseases once confined to regions around the equator–diseases that are carried by living organisms, including mosquitoes, ticks, fleas, and lice. Wow, I had no idea that areas like the Boundary Water Canoe Area and the Alaskan Wildlife Reserve have no mosquitoes, because it's cold. Posted by: Archimedes at May 13, 2024 07:20 PM Literally everything the global warming alarmists say is wrong. There used to be malaria in Siberia. The ticks on our farm disappear when it gets hot and dry. They only time those idiots have ever set up a tent was when they were doing a stupid protest on their college campus. Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 13, 2024 07:27 PM (HlyYF) 229 You gain very little, except for increased recoil, with 12 ga. slugs, as opposed to 20. For slugs only, 20 is the way to go. The Savage/Stevens 220 is a significantly underappreciated shotgun for slugs. Posted by: Duncanthrax ------- Good to know about that model. Thanks. Been out of the shotgun market for ages. Posted by: whig at May 13, 2024 07:28 PM (Z+tXy) 230 Somebody gets as far as in my house I don't give a fig about the walls. I use a 20 gauge. I have fired this gun at thieves before, with intent. Posted by: Ben Had at May 13, 2024 07:29 PM (D/6Qm) 231 a star anchor at MSNBC* You see, when the skies were young, sometimes a star would come unmoored and go wandering off through the cosmos. And so, star anchors were lashed to them, whose flukes would dig in and hold them in their appointed constellation... Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 13, 2024 07:30 PM (zdLoL) 232 230 Somebody gets as far as in my house I don't give a fig about the walls. I use a 20 gauge. I have fired this gun at thieves before, with intent. Posted by: Ben Had ======= Texas law is a bit different than most states on ability to use deadly force during the hours of mischief to protect property. Other than my dogs or wife, I am not getting into a gun battle over a tweaked meth head/stoner/thug stealing from my sheds or my tv. Just the attorney fees to fight a true bill of indictment from scum sucking DA's runs about 10 to 20k and private lawyers suing over some scum getting shot can run that total up as well. Posted by: whig at May 13, 2024 07:33 PM (Z+tXy) 233 The one thing I worry about with the 12 is penetration. But my stepson is a light sleeper, and in the unlikely event I wake before he does, he knows to get on the floor when I yell at him. We learned that in Denver, because of all the damned gunfights in our vicinity there. Thank G-d we don't have those here. crosses fingers Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 13, 2024 07:36 PM (0FoWg) 234 Oxy is not sexy. Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 13, 2024 07:02 PM (wzAuc) Doctor told me to take two before I left from shoulder surgery. "You'll need those when the nerve block wears off." My sister in law had just died from popping them like Tylenol with Codine like she was used to for her back injury. We're at the CBS to get the prescription and I'm getting a beer and I hear SHIT!! THAT GUY JUST ROBBED ME!! from the pharmacy as I see a tweaker looking dude going out the front door. I'm an hour out of surgery. I still flared up but I didn't give chase. Anyway 2 hours later as I'm trying to get my shit filled we find out he stole all the Oxy. I went home with 2 Fosters, an Adrenalin rush and some advil, came down that way. Never needed the crap. I have 3 dead friends because of it. Posted by: Reforger at May 13, 2024 07:37 PM (B705c) 235 Scotland suddenly has a lot of mosquitoes https://www.popsci.com/science/mosquitoes-scotland/ As the global temperature rises, so too does the range of tropical concerns. One of the most prominent examples of this is the increasing presence in temperate zones of vector-borne diseases once confined to regions around the equator–diseases that are carried by living organisms, including mosquitoes, ticks, fleas, and lice. ------------------ Psssst... Newcomers are also a vector. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 13, 2024 07:39 PM (cOq4q) 236 233 The one thing I worry about with the 12 is penetration. But my stepson is a light sleeper, and in the unlikely event I wake before he does, he knows to get on the floor when I yell at him. We learned that in Denver, because of all the damned gunfights in our vicinity there. Thank G-d we don't have those here. crosses fingers Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice ---------- An AR with the proper ammo aka 55 gr hollow or soft point actually penetrates less a 9mm does. I have switched to that platform for home defense duties as easier to get range time, familiar with the platform, cheap ammo, and more pleasant to practice with. At close range it is deadly . The old M1 Carbine if you use softpoints or hollow points (gunsmiths have to usually modify it for those), is another excellent choice. Not wise though to use collector items for self defense as you may never get it back and even if you do, the po po will mar it by doing all kinds of crap to it like engraving case numbers crudely all over the parts, neglect such as allowing rust, and banging it up thoroughly. A cheap AR of which one has several is preferable. Posted by: whig at May 13, 2024 07:41 PM (Z+tXy) 237 Never needed the crap. I have 3 dead friends because of it. Posted by: Reforger Had it prescribed once after knee surgery. Gave me an awful headache as in kill me know and projectile vomiting. Got the painkiller substituted for another by the on call doc. 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