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[POTENTIAL LEAD] Under the Stars (First Love)

Debunked Lead

Notable events:

• Song was found in the online database of SGAE, which comes from Spain and is fully official: https://enlinea.sgae.es/RepertorioOnline/Buscar.aspx?opcion=inicializar

• The copyright owner is Brian Alfonso González, someone I couldn't find any info on, but the name is absolutely from a Spanish speaking country

• The title of the song is not only Under the Stars but also has an alternative title: First Love, something that could also fit the theme of the song

• There are no band names or editors cited, just the one copyright holder

• [PROBLEMATIC] As well as the copyright for the music itself, SGAE also holds the copyright to both the Execution and Reproduction for something they label as "Drama", MAYBE pointing at the fact that its origins may actually come from a small theater act... Which could also excuse the lower production quality ig?

• [IMG 2] There are 24 songs listed under his belt (actually less cause some of them are alternative titles). All of them with SGAE owning the "Drama" copyright and featuring no band names or editors. Most of them are in Spanish with only some of them being in English, pointing towards Spanish being his native language but also knowing how to speak English

• [IMG 3 AND 4] Brian has only shared copyright in three occasions.

15 PESOS (Pesos is a coin used in some parts of Latin America) with Luis Alberto Meneses Cardoso, who's Facebook I managed to find and he's indeed an musician who speaks Spanish. [ACCOUNT WITH NO ACTIVITY SINCE 2021]

EN LA TEMPESTAD (In the storm) with Andrés Nicolás Sena Ferreyra, no info found

ME CANSASTE (you tired me) with Sandra Mabel Acosta Frederico. No info found [THERE'S A COPYRIGHT LABEL FOR "AUDIOVISUAL" IN THIS ONE]

Researching for this specific artist or anything about this specific song is extremely hard and I don't want to hype anyone too much, take everything said here with a grain of salt.

There's a big change that this isn't even the song and that the original song is indeed just lost because it was performed my a small band with no copyright. But you never know how these things could get found.

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My first language is Spanish, I will try to answer any questions there may be if there's even any

Sorry if this is a long shot even by lostwave standards

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Espero que este permitido hablar en español...

Te queria preguntar porque seleccionaste esa "Under The Stars" en particular. Intenté buscar el nombre de la canción en el link q pusiste pero me salen un montón, jaja

se ve prometedor esto!

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De hecho he estado haciendo ya durante algunos días búsquedas en SGAE bajo los títulos de "Night under the stars" and "Under the Stars". He podido encontrar algunas canciones que obviamente no fueron estas. No tengo una lista de las que no encontré pero si que tengo estas (La A simboliza que he encontrado el audio, la L? simboliza que no lo he encontrado pero que la posibilidad es muy baja)

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https://sonicculture.sourceaudio.com/track/38244297

https://nathalie-mclachlan-barnhill-laurence-holcombe.skysound7.com/

https://emunamusic.com/night-under-the-stars-432-hz/

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=NlJxx098LVU&feature=shared

https://youtu.be/hCpl_awpZPM?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/DSSGHm6Ag8c?feature=shared

De todas de las que he podido encontrar, esta en específico cumplió tantos requisitos que me pareció la más interesante

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Hey!! I found the song on yt and unfortunately its not it :( https://youtu.be/lPUpV8YFCq8?feature=shared

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We'll get em next time, changed the flair myself

Song does go hard, GODDAMN

Yeah ive found good songs while looking for lcda, it makes the search more interesting ngl :p

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I don’t think that’s the same guy this lead isn’t debunked. Please don’t be discouraged from this lead!!

Editing to explain why I don’t think it’s the same Brian Alfonso Gonzalez because well

  1. Where’s Gonzalez

  2. No matching copyright info

  3. His associated work on Spotify doesn’t matchup with the copyright lists

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Sadly the other songs he has in YT match with his other work so I'd say this lead is fully debunked

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Even if the lead got debunked I still believe SGAE is the way to about this

If we want to go by the route of Under the Stars being made with a copyright label that exists located in Spain and or literally any other place sometimes, it's still a GOOD way to find it and/or find good songs and anyone can do it from the comodity of their home

Don't give up hope

Suena muy amateur para haber sido registrado

Opino lo mismo, estuve buscando mucho en sgae y no logro encontrar nada :/ comienzo a creer que realmente nunca fue registrado y que quizás y solo fue hecho por diversión o amor al arte

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I’m curious about whether this is the closest point to where Canción de Alicia finally gets found or not

Lastima que no era, pero muy buen research, felicidades! Si seguimos así seguro la vamos a encontrar

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Encontré esta bajo el nombre "Stay by my side". Sus autores son hispanos

https://www.facebook.com/reel/643436730554009 acá encontré a un Santiago Vidal Muiño que canta, me parece que tiene sentido asumir que es él. Voy a intentar comunicarme

EDIT: "Stay by my side" no es la canción de Alicia: https://youtu.be/pwl7Dg2digE?si=oDiYSylBBiEoGnY7

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También encontré este. No sé si sirva de algo :P

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Nt

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Seguramente no sea español de España por eso de "Brian"

AYYYYY PUEDE SER PQ EL ACENTO DEL CANTATE ESRE CONTRA ESPAÑOL

encontré la canción de 15 pesos en el canal de Luis Alberto Meneses Cardoso

Este es el link:https://youtu.be/VsXWT1lF8Ug?si=q3DbggUJKSn67mRZ