Quick Review for the Tascam Dm-4800

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chris haywood

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Quick Review for the Tascam Dm-4800
« on: July 15, 2007, 11:49:17 PM »

Ive used digital mixers for years now, but that doesnt mean Ive owned hundreds to compare, but as far as digital consoles go, Ive used roland vm series, and the Roland digital one before that, I forget, and the mackie tt-24..

I have had a great time using this board live, as well as multi track recording on the firewire, which is also EXTREMELY nice.. If I want to see what the signals are going to the computer through the firewire, I just hit the buss fader layer button and instantly the meter bridge changes to show what the recording levels are (assuming unity on computer)...

Also, just about every button is configurable, even if it is labeled, ITS NOT IN STONE! I typically use the fader encoder rings for aux sends with the right pad for encoder rings 1-8, I hit the 1 or the 2 or whatever, and the encoder rings light up to show levels for that aux send, these aux sends can also be soloed, seems to save me time rather than wondering where everything is...

touch sensitive faders, SMOOTH! They can be configured to change the display content, as well as the eq, and dynamics knobs, to be ready to adjust for that channel, just by touching the fader...
I really like that feature and use it all the time... The only draw back to it, is when I change master fader level, the screen shows master settings... So I just touch another fader somewhere else that may be of interest... Also, NO MORE FADER FIGHTS! Anyone who has used digital consoles with motorized faders for years, I am sure has experienced this.... Here if you are too quick to grab a fader, The console releases it and does not fight and insist that the fader first come to rest before you can move it... touch sensative.....

The physical structure of this console is solid, I don't have a case for it Sad , I load it up twice a week for now, (expected to do much more soon) and this thing doesn't flex at all...

But in sunlight, there could be a problem, I don't know, haven't tried it yet, but the encoder rings will struggle to be seen, the screen however I don't anticipate being a problem in an outdoor environment, because it can be switched to white on black, or black on white.... I like the white on black and always use it...

fader groups and mute groups are lightning fast to set, even in live use... Fader banks change lightning fast too, infact the fastest Ive ever seen...

effects work great, crisp, and clean, as well as compressor's and gates, with a hysteresis setting, this way when the audio signal is dropping, it will have to go lower than the set threshold for the gate to open, before it closes... and loads of other settings making complete customization of effects, compressors, gates a real fine tuned process...

Don't pull this thing out of the box and use it live, get to know it first, same rule for the mackie tt-24.. and I did get to know the mackie before using it live, but it acted like it hated me, fader fights, kill band sweep fly away, unity gain on led rings was a mystery, I don't want to remember or I will start feeling like I want to throw something through the window Mad ....

Fader meter available for pre and post fader, as well as meter speed, fast, normal, slow, peak hold time programmable, built in talk back Mic! smooth, especially if out of Mic's, but the draw back to that is, I need to put my face close to the mixer if i want to be loud and clear when I am yelling in someones monitor Shocked  Very Happy

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chris haywood

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Re: Quick Review for the Tascam Dm-4800
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2007, 11:50:13 PM »

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Re: Quick Review for the Tascam Dm-4800
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Re: Quick Review for the Tascam Dm-4800
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Steve Hurt

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Re: Quick Review for the Tascam Dm-4800
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2007, 08:35:59 AM »

That thing is seriously tall.  What kind of case are you using for it?  Even in a case, do you think it's sturdy enough to being moved from live gig to live gig?  I thought that it was intended as a studio board, not a live board.
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Re: Quick Review for the Tascam Dm-4800
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2007, 12:31:38 PM »

This was my first thought as well, (recording only) I never seen any pictures of this mixer next to a person on the net, so it was difficult to interpret its actual size...

and to my surprise, this thing works great for live use, and its smokin recording features can be used live as well, making the change from recording console and live console practically seamless.. I plan to get sonar so I can use the buttons on the mixer for recording instead of the computer buttons, and i will have the time display right on the right side of the meter bridge....  What I mean by seemless, even with the limitations of not having sonar, or one of the other software packages with exclusive connectivity and control through the tascam dm4800, is switching to the buss bank gives me the exact recording meter in the recording software (with software faders @ unity).. I can take a quick look at recording meters, and then jump back to input meters in a snap...

I have no case for it, i just handle it by the side rails, when loading and unloading, then on its side on the hand-truck, using part of the old mackie tt-24 remains of the box as an insulator between the two... Very Happy  The thing has feet so it can stand upright with the connections facing down, without rubbing connectors on the ground... and it also has feet on its bottom side while sitting on a table, 6 individual feet...


I posted these pics because they give an actual representation of the size... its a monster console, just what i like, it weighs the exact same as the mackie tt-24 (71 lbs) and is far more solid in construction than the mackie... for example, when i would handle the mackie, if i grabbed a rear handle and a front handle on the opposite side, the console would flex and bend, maybe thats why it died, who knows.... but im glad it did, except for the timing, which couldn't have been worse, died when i needed it...
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Eric Thorsen

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Re: Quick Review for the Tascam Dm-4800
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2007, 12:41:38 AM »

How do the mic pres sound in the recording and live for that matter? The dm4800 is the only sub $5-6,000 range with 24 built in pres. Also is the line in before the gain knob or after, asin could you input external pres completely bypassing the built in ones?  Thanks for the great review.

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Re: Quick Review for the Tascam Dm-4800
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2007, 01:53:55 AM »

Eric Thorsen wrote on Mon, 16 July 2007 23:41

How do the mic pres sound in the recording and live for that matter? The dm4800 is the only sub $5-6,000 range with 24 built in pres. Also is the line in before the gain knob or after, asin could you input external pres completely bypassing the built in ones?  Thanks for the great review.




First, pres sound great all around, and completely transparent.. I have never scrutinized them beyond the threshold of detail observed in human hearing with a computer graph or anything like that, but based on what I have used and have heard, they are clean...
I also have had compliments that the system never sounded so good, and that is after the mackie tt24 was used... There isn't as much gain available as there is on the mackie, but in realistic situations, or unless you want to hear a fly talk, there is always way more than enough....

The line in is before the gain in series, passing through the gain before analog to digital conversion, then to input router, and yes it is possible to completely bypass all built in pres using the insert return trs 1/4 inch, which is post gain, pre analog to digital converter...

fx sound good too...
as for the review, no problem my friend, I was desperately searching for one like this before I bought it, but couldn't find one anywhere on the net, and after taking the chance, it paid off...

It is extremely flexible and configurable, its like having another arm when you got everything laid out just the way you like it.. and is a chameleon of situations changing shape to fit right into the situation at hand using snap shots and projects... Never loosing anything...

I use the master meter on the board for sub aux meter, calibrated to show clip just before the amp does, and the main master meters on bridge for the tops, which also can be set to pre fader to take a glimpse at how hot the signal is coming into the master stereo buss done on the meter screen...

One other thing, if you have a few screens that you are always visiting, when starting up the tascam, I go to those screens, and set the cursor where i want it, and then in a live event, when jumping back to one of those screens, my cursor is still in position right where i left it....

I think one can find a sale if they look hard enough...
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john mann

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Re: Quick Review for the Tascam Dm-4800
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2007, 02:08:24 AM »

WOW this is a great quick review, are you still having good success with this desk? Thanks
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Re: Quick Review for the Tascam Dm-4800
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2007, 04:53:54 PM »

Hello? I had some more questions about the tascam dm-4800, we are thinking of getting 2 of them and linking them together, and based on your experience with a single desk, how do you think it will work with 2? will the outboard meters show the same thing, or will they show what each desk is attempting to display?
I called tech support, and they were not sure because they dont have that much hardware to test... What are your thoughts?
Does anyone else here know anything about this mixer?
Thanks
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