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macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostTue Oct 08, 2019 4:11 am

Does DaVinci Resolve 16.0 and related components play nice with macOS Catalina just released?


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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostTue Oct 08, 2019 7:27 am

Hi Rick,

I have run every Catalina beta with every Resolve Studio 16 beta (dongle), and I have not had any other issues then those mentioned with the OS release or Resolve Studio release.
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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostTue Oct 08, 2019 3:57 pm

Thanks very much, Robert. I’ll proceed with the update. Will miss having Aperture available but I can still go there if needed as I have an alternate boot drive.

Just need to verify the status of DNxHR HQX/HQ as I would like to use that codec in the future (for redundant video recording on the Blackmagic Video Assist 12G).


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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostTue Oct 08, 2019 4:06 pm

rick.lang wrote:Thanks very much, Robert. I’ll proceed with the update.


Rick, if you have any audio plugins (VST, AU, etc.), some may cease to function unless they're 64 bit. That's one of several reasons I'm not upgrading my production machine to Catalina anytime soon, and maybe never. I upgraded my daily Mac Mini (2014 edition) last night and all's well there but I don't do any video or audio work on that machine.
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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostTue Oct 08, 2019 4:20 pm

Brad Hurley wrote:if you have any audio plugins (VST, AU, etc.), some may cease to function unless they're 64 bit
In many cases, while the plugin may be 64bit, several developers still use 32bit installers (e.g. iZotope/Exponential Audio) which requires manual extraction of the components within the installer, followed by manual placement within the required folders on Catalina.
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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostTue Oct 08, 2019 4:44 pm

There's a "legacy software checker" that you can try running to see if you're likely to run into any headaches: https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/07/how-to-g ... -catalina/
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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostTue Oct 08, 2019 9:24 pm

I think I’ll be alright in that regard as I stopped using iZotope several months ago. Although they don’t formally consider themselves compatible with DaVinci Resolve, they used to work. But I ran into audio weirdness during the editing of my movie ‘pilot’ and stopped using any.

The weirdness was that without any effect, the audio just needed some noise correction or increased gain. 99% of those changes would work as intended but a few persisted in giving very distorted audio that I couldn’t fix. Simpler to just not bother with it and make adjustments by other means.


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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostTue Oct 08, 2019 9:26 pm

I have my alternate boot disk which includes Resolve 16.0 that I’m leaving on macOS 10.14.6 so I do have emergency fallback.


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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostTue Oct 08, 2019 9:29 pm

Brad Hurley wrote:
rick.lang wrote:Thanks very much, Robert. I’ll proceed with the update.


... if you have any audio plugins (VST, AU, etc.), some may cease to function unless they're 64 bit....


SO how can we find out which VST or OFX are not 64 bit?
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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostTue Oct 08, 2019 10:02 pm

Even though BMD has not put out a notice with compatibility issues using DRS16 on macOS Catalina

Most audio software companies have requested customer's to hold off upgrading to Catalina, until such time they test their software for compliance for the notarisation process that apple has implemented in Catalina 10.15.

https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=09032019a

Even though this has been relaxed by apple until 2020, the software developers are moving cautiously and have advised their customer to stay away from upgrading until the companies test their software.

So, if you are not a user, switching to other audio apps for audio post production or not a heavy third party plugin user on DRS 16, then you are good to upgrade to Catalina for DRS 16.

As Robert mentioned, I too have been running DRS 16 since the beta of macOS Catalina and never had any issues as such.

So you are good to go.
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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostTue Oct 08, 2019 10:25 pm

Thanks, Dilson. I’m certainly a very light user of audio plugins.


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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostWed Oct 09, 2019 4:26 am

Separate from the problems related to Apple cutting off support for 32 bit apps, I am holding off until there is a bug fix release (ie 10.15.1 or similar) before upgrading my main Mac to Catalina.
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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostWed Oct 09, 2019 11:34 am

There are numerous pro apps and plugins whose authors are sending out emails warning people to hold off on the upgrade. Some are saying outright that their software will not work in 10.15 at this time.

Check ALL of your other programs and plugins very carefully before considering this upgrade.
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macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostWed Oct 09, 2019 3:07 pm

After successfully updating to Catalina, I read in AppleInsider’s extensive review that you can leave a Mojave boot partition and add a new Catalina boot partition on your system disk. So it’s nearly painless then to switch between the new and former systems! Now I would have done that if I’d known. Why wasn’t that tidbit publicized well ahead of the release of Catalina? So now you know, you can easily have access to both without an external boot drive.


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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostWed Oct 09, 2019 3:18 pm

rick.lang wrote:Why wasn’t that tidbit publicized well ahead of the release of Catalina?


Because it's nothing new. The ability to have multiple boot partitions is common knowledge.
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macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostWed Oct 09, 2019 3:30 pm

Tom, I thought in reading the AppleInsider article that this was something that was created as part of the upgrade where all partitions would be managed by the new file system, not HFS+.

The new file system can construct a partition from various physical areas that no longer need to be physically contiguous. With the old HFS+ all partitions required contiguous storage.


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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostWed Oct 09, 2019 7:39 pm

Apple makes things worse and worse again and again. A lot of things like EPSON Scan or Brother printer drivers may not work and unlikely will be updated to 64bit for older printers/scanners models. A lot of unique audio plug-ins may be never updated to 64 bit at all. For same reason a lot of people still use 32 bit versions of audio editors apps. Also a lot of tiny useful but abandoned apps may stay 32 bit forever.
By the way, Uninstall Resolve.app is still 32 bit :)
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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostFri Oct 11, 2019 5:53 am

But I ran Uninstall this evening to move to 16.0b3.


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Re: macOS 10.15 Catalina

PostMon Oct 28, 2019 5:57 pm

I just upgraded to Catalina and think I have an issue.

I have an edit and created a few Fusion clips. Now after Catalina those clips are showing as Black

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