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do scientologists practice self-compassion?

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what is the common practice in scientology, and yes obviously this is me pointing out that many scientologists in my opinion in long run do NOT practice self-love/ self-compassion.

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u/Vindalfr avatar

Some Scientologists can get so wrapped up with the idea of "putting in their own ethics" that they can be less than kind to themselves.

Some spend a few years doing O/W write-ups every 6 months and that can lead to some very self-critical habits.

I lived a long time with the taught SCN mentality of “productivity is the basis of morale,” which sounds good and true. However it would often get to the point where resting felt wrong — that it wasn’t okay to not be productive, or that resting wasn’t productive. And not allowing yourself to rest comfortably is one of the most glaring examples of lacking self-compassion.

Coming out of that, it’s still hard to allow myself to feel calm when “sitting around” or “doing nothing.” It’s difficult to not be overly self-critical over things that someone truly truly truly should not be getting worked up over. And if this is what I feel after leaving, I’m sure it’s emphasized if someone is still in for their life.

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No, Scientologists do not practice self compassion or any form of compassion for that matter. At its very core Scientology is about keeping itself going and spreading like the mind virus that it is. Which they are obviously failing at massively. There is love bombing going as in every narcissistic relationship which can be mistaken for compassion and there are marketing campaigns like the overpriced Way to Happiness booklets but that’s a facade and a means to an end. The end is control over people and money into the hands of the cult.

Here is their version of compassion of any kind. Let's say you get r@ped, or beaten. They are taught that they "brought that in" in other words in their own fault and no one else's.

No...not for themselves, each other, or the rest of the population.

I’ve never been a Scientologist but everything I learned in reading Jenna Miscavige Hill’s book screams:

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

If you’re sick, you did something wrong and that’s why you’re sick. I forget the terminology.

6 years olds are forced to work long hours in the sea org. Like literally 8 am to midnight and this is all ok because their flesh body is just a vehicle for their “Thetan”, the spirit that inhabits their flesh vehicle.

There are no hobbies in Scientology because any hobbies take away from the mission of “clearing the planet.”

Shit, even their “niacin flush” or whatever thing it is they do, where they run on a treadmill then take copious amounts of vitamin b, then sweat in a sauna for 5 hours is freaking horribleeeeee for you.

Any behavior where you fall out of line is swiftly punished with some higher ranking Scientologists being sent to RPF for years on end.

I don’t think this is all true for the rank and file “public” Scientologists, but if these are the Scientology beliefs, I doubt they encourage their public Scientologists to just be cool and chill and compassionate toward themselves.

u/GlobalistFuck avatar

no. they go to pay for more auditing instead.

u/freezoneandproud avatar

I've commented here, now and again, that I encountered two kinds of people in the Church of Scientology: Those who wanted answers handed to them, and those who want better questions.

IMO, the people who are anxious to be conformists -- to find a One True Way to which all must adhere -- are not very forgiving of anyone, themselves included. Everything in their culture says that you must devote 100% of your energy to clearing the planet, and if you have to sacrifice your own mortal soul to do it, it's worth it. (Never mind that putting oneself in a position where a sacrifice is necessary is... a pretty bad situation.) That attitude doesn't lead to self-compassion, and an attitude of, "Well, I tried; I'll do better next time" or "It's okay to let myself relax and have fun." And if one is minded to think that way, they can turn to the Scientology Ethics Conditions which purport to tell you what to do at any given stage of success (e.g. in an emergency or in a state of affluence)... none of which say, "You succeeded! It's time to Par-teeeee!" much less "Go on, buy that extra treat for yourself, you earned it."

Among the many reasons that I walked away from the CofS is that I didn't accept that worldview.

But it does seem to be tied to the notion of "I want One Answer." Maybe those people want things to be overly simple and they want a reason to self-flagellate. I don't know.

This discussion puts me in mind of something Heinlein wrote in The Door Into Summer:

Paymasters come in only two sizes: one sort shows you where the book says that you can’t have what you've got coming to you; the second sort digs through the book until he finds a paragraph that lets you have what you need even if you don’t rate it.

I won't claim that Freezone Scientology necessarily makes someone more open to self-love and self-compassion. I only know that that's one of the effects that it had on me personally. My heart grew bigger and I found it easier to love people... including myself.

Absolutely not. Very self hating cult.

u/gsa51 avatar

You are taught that anything negative is your own fault.

Wow that’s absolutely patently false. The whole idea of Scientology is to get to know your true self, resolve past traumas, develop a sense of ethics, and be able to exterior your body.

I love myself because I know all the things I’ve went through was due to past aberration or not having enough knowledge, or having false purposes.

I know myself better, and love myself better.

u/Southendbeach avatar

That's what's advertised. Have you read Hubbard's 1938 Excalibur letter where he described his "real goal"? That never ceased being Hubbard's primary goal. Hubbard had an ulterior motive that contaminated Scientology.

If you're seeking to sort out the pieces of Scientology - the good, the silly, the bad - it might be wise to look at this area.

“I have high hopes of smashing my name into history so violently that it will take a legendary form even if all books are destroyed. That goal is the real goal as far as I am concerned . . .​“

It’s obnosis what is bad. “For goodness sake, get out there and build a better bridge!”. For an independent, the work isn’t done.

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u/freezoneandproud avatar

"Should" and "do" are separate things.

Bahahaha you haven’t stumbled upon OT III yet, have you? You can get better satisfaction and self love from simple therapy and yoga lol

As an independent I’m well aware of Xenu and friends. Unlike the church which followed dogma I have critical thought capabilities and I know what works in Scientology and what was made up after a certain point.

To me Scientology is the work L. Ron Hubbard did between 1950 and 1965.

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