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Post by stephen on May 7, 2024 15:57:00 GMT
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Post by pupdurcs on May 7, 2024 16:49:40 GMT
I know you had high hopes for Olivia Colman as a leading lady, and on one hand I'm happy for her that she's getting work as such, but seeing her cast in these mid, middlebrow roles and movies one after the other is kind of depressing. It's a shame more interesting and daring filmmakers aren't casting her. I think it's fucked up that she's the one who first won a Best Actress Oscar for a Yorgos Lanthimos collaboration, and he can't find another role for her, but he can cast Emma Stone 5 times in a row. Unless Lanthimos and Colman hated each other and it was kept under wraps, feels a bit disrespectful to Colman. Colman is a more interesting actress than the projects she's doing. |
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Post by thomasjerome on May 7, 2024 16:57:10 GMT
Enjoyed “Good Luck to You, Leo Grande”, love Colman, love Lithgow. Looking forward to this.
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Post by stephen on May 7, 2024 17:06:07 GMT
I know you had high hopes for Olivia Colman as a leading lady, and on one hand I'm happy for her that she's getting work as such, but seeing her cast in these mid, middlebrow roles and movies one after the other is kind of depressing. It's a shame more interesting and daring filmmakers aren't casting her. I think it's fucked up that she's the one who first won a Best Actress Oscar for a Yorgos Lanthimos collaboration, and he can't find another role for her, but he can cast Emma Stone 5 times in a row. Unless Lanthimos and Colman hated each other and it was kept under wraps, feels a bit disrespectful to Colman. Colman is a more interesting actress than the projects she's doing. I mean, sometimes you just find a different muse. Colman and Lanthimos are still on good terms from everything I've seen (and Colman did a Q&A with Emma Stone for Poor Things where she still sang Yorgos's praises), but even so, Colman's been working nonstop since her Oscar win and been in such high demand, and there's not really a role she would've likely been suited for in Poor Things (maybe Kathryn Hunter but come on, that character is so perfectly in tune with Hunter's sensibilities that it's hard to imagine anyone else in the part) or Kinds of Kindness. Scheduling conflicts could've arisen, especially considering how busy Colman has been (don't forget she headlined a Netflix juggernaut for two years, winning an Emmy off the back of it). It's not like Colman's career has been suffering since The Favourite. She got two follow-up Oscar nominations (one of them in lead) and her post- Favourite output is still reasonably strong, both in commercial and arthouse properties. And we're assuming this is going to be a mid movie based on . . . what, the premise? Good Luck to You, Leo Grande was really good and both Thompson and Daryl McCormack were great in it, and considering Colman's television output of late with things like Heartstoppers, this seems right up her alley. I think she's doing fine. She's an Oscar-winning actress who is still eminently castable in all sorts of things, and this project could do very well. Plus she's attached to Girl from the North Country (a promising project for her with pre-existing awards clout to the role), The Roses (not opening that can of worms again in terms of her being cast, but again, I think people are underestimating her there), the Dev Patel movie which sounds like a great character piece, and a likely sizable role in a Paddington sequel. I mean, that's an extremely healthy docket. Put any actress her age in that spot and that wouldn't be seen as a disappointment. There's nothing here to consider disrespect to Colman. |
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Post by pupdurcs on May 7, 2024 17:23:05 GMT
I know you had high hopes for Olivia Colman as a leading lady, and on one hand I'm happy for her that she's getting work as such, but seeing her cast in these mid, middlebrow roles and movies one after the other is kind of depressing. It's a shame more interesting and daring filmmakers aren't casting her. I think it's fucked up that she's the one who first won a Best Actress Oscar for a Yorgos Lanthimos collaboration, and he can't find another role for her, but he can cast Emma Stone 5 times in a row. Unless Lanthimos and Colman hated each other and it was kept under wraps, feels a bit disrespectful to Colman. Colman is a more interesting actress than the projects she's doing. I mean, sometimes you just find a different muse. Colman and Lanthimos are still on good terms from everything I've seen (and Colman did a Q&A with Emma Stone for Poor Things where she still sang Yorgos's praises), but even so, Colman's been working nonstop since her Oscar win and been in such high demand, and there's not really a role she would've likely been suited for in Poor Things (maybe Kathryn Hunter but come on, that character is so perfectly in tune with Hunter's sensibilities that it's hard to imagine anyone else in the part) or Kinds of Kindness. Scheduling conflicts could've arisen, especially considering how busy Colman has been (don't forget she headlined a Netflix juggernaut for two years, winning an Emmy off the back of it). It's not like Colman's career has been suffering since The Favourite. She got two follow-up Oscar nominations (one of them in lead) and her post- Favourite output is still reasonably strong, both in commercial and arthouse properties. And we're assuming this is going to be a mid movie based on . . . what, the premise? Good Luck to You, Leo Grande was really good and both Thompson and Daryl McCormack were great in it, and considering Colman's television output of late with things like Heartstoppers, this seems right up her alley. I think she's doing fine. She's an Oscar-winning actress who is still eminently castable in all sorts of things, and this project could do very well. Plus she's attached to Girl from the North Country (a promising project for her with pre-existing awards clout to the role), The Roses (not opening that can of worms again in terms of her being cast, but again, I think people are underestimating her there), the Dev Patel movie which sounds like a great character piece, and a likely sizable role in a Paddington sequel. I mean, that's an extremely healthy docket. Put any actress her age in that spot and that wouldn't be seen as a disappointment. There's nothing here to consider disrespect to Colman. I hear you, and I think most of what you say makes a lot of sense. But this was the last poster for a Colman movie I saw, and it just felt so twee, that I had zero interest in watching it. Recency bias I guess. I don't enjoy feeling that way for Colman, because she's a great actress (but I also have to be fair and understanding that she's not a conventional leading lady, looks wise. So opportunities won't be the same): |
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Post by stephen on May 7, 2024 17:30:17 GMT
I mean, sometimes you just find a different muse. Colman and Lanthimos are still on good terms from everything I've seen (and Colman did a Q&A with Emma Stone for Poor Things where she still sang Yorgos's praises), but even so, Colman's been working nonstop since her Oscar win and been in such high demand, and there's not really a role she would've likely been suited for in Poor Things (maybe Kathryn Hunter but come on, that character is so perfectly in tune with Hunter's sensibilities that it's hard to imagine anyone else in the part) or Kinds of Kindness. Scheduling conflicts could've arisen, especially considering how busy Colman has been (don't forget she headlined a Netflix juggernaut for two years, winning an Emmy off the back of it). It's not like Colman's career has been suffering since The Favourite. She got two follow-up Oscar nominations (one of them in lead) and her post- Favourite output is still reasonably strong, both in commercial and arthouse properties. And we're assuming this is going to be a mid movie based on . . . what, the premise? Good Luck to You, Leo Grande was really good and both Thompson and Daryl McCormack were great in it, and considering Colman's television output of late with things like Heartstoppers, this seems right up her alley. I think she's doing fine. She's an Oscar-winning actress who is still eminently castable in all sorts of things, and this project could do very well. Plus she's attached to Girl from the North Country (a promising project for her with pre-existing awards clout to the role), The Roses (not opening that can of worms again in terms of her being cast, but again, I think people are underestimating her there), the Dev Patel movie which sounds like a great character piece, and a likely sizable role in a Paddington sequel. I mean, that's an extremely healthy docket. Put any actress her age in that spot and that wouldn't be seen as a disappointment. There's nothing here to consider disrespect to Colman. I hear you, and I think most of what you say makes a lot of sense. But this was the last poster for a Colman movie I saw, and it just felt so twee, that I had zero interest in watching it. Recency bias I guess. I don't enjoy feeling that way for Colman, because she's a great actress (but I also have to be fair and understanding that she's not a conventional leading lady, looks wise. So opportunities won't be the same): I mean, Wicked Little Letters was a really fun experience and both Colman and Buckley are terrific on it, but if you're judging whether a film is worth watching on a poster (which is entirely out of the actor's control) rather than the pedigree of the actors involved, that's a personal issue and I don't know what to tell you. It's not like Colman designed the poster herself. |
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Post by pupdurcs on May 7, 2024 17:40:30 GMT
I hear you, and I think most of what you say makes a lot of sense. But this was the last poster for a Colman movie I saw, and it just felt so twee, that I had zero interest in watching it. Recency bias I guess. I don't enjoy feeling that way for Colman, because she's a great actress (but I also have to be fair and understanding that she's not a conventional leading lady, looks wise. So opportunities won't be the same): I mean, Wicked Little Letters was a really fun experience and both Colman and Buckley are terrific on it, but if you're judging whether a film is worth watching on a poster (which is entirely out of the actor's control) rather than the pedigree of the actors involved, that's a personal issue and I don't know what to tell you. It's not like Colman designed the poster herself. Marketing matters Stephen. A poster does matter. There are only so many hours in a day, and we are living in an era that is oversaturated with content. We can't watch everything. It's not like the director of this film is interesting enough to make me ignore bad marketing. If the marketing is poor, and I''ve got a thousand streaming shows, movies and cinema releases competing for my attention, all it takes is a poster like that to make me think, "nah, I'll watch something else". Not Colman's fault, but gotta keep it real. I may end up watching it later, loving it and feel I misjudged it without seeing it, but that key bit of marketing put me off. It is what it is. |
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Post by stabcaesar on May 7, 2024 17:50:56 GMT
Considering Colman’s age and the fact that she’s not conventionally pretty, her career is sensational.
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Post by mhynson27 on May 8, 2024 1:35:07 GMT
How are some people here incapable of talking about Colman without mentioning her looks. Ffs.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on May 8, 2024 2:19:11 GMT
I know you had high hopes for Olivia Colman as a leading lady, and on one hand I'm happy for her that she's getting work as such, but seeing her cast in these mid, middlebrow roles and movies one after the other is kind of depressing. It's a shame more interesting and daring filmmakers aren't casting her. I think it's fucked up that she's the one who first won a Best Actress Oscar for a Yorgos Lanthimos collaboration, and he can't find another role for her, but he can cast Emma Stone 5 times in a row. Unless Lanthimos and Colman hated each other and it was kept under wraps, feels a bit disrespectful to Colman. Colman is a more interesting actress than the projects she's doing. Why is is fucked up or disrespectful for Lanthimos to not have cast her again? He doesn’t owe her anything. A director should only focus on who they think is the best fit for the roles in the film they are working on |
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Post by pupdurcs on May 8, 2024 2:48:59 GMT
I know you had high hopes for Olivia Colman as a leading lady, and on one hand I'm happy for her that she's getting work as such, but seeing her cast in these mid, middlebrow roles and movies one after the other is kind of depressing. It's a shame more interesting and daring filmmakers aren't casting her. I think it's fucked up that she's the one who first won a Best Actress Oscar for a Yorgos Lanthimos collaboration, and he can't find another role for her, but he can cast Emma Stone 5 times in a row. Unless Lanthimos and Colman hated each other and it was kept under wraps, feels a bit disrespectful to Colman. Colman is a more interesting actress than the projects she's doing. Why is is fucked up or disrespectful for Lanthimos to not have cast her again? He doesn’t owe her anything. A director should only focus on who they think is the best fit for the roles in the film they are working on is not the best fit for every Lanthimos movie. He just likes working with her, and that's fine. Leonardo DiCaprio is not the best fit for every movie he does with Scorsese, but they like working together. That's how the buisness works. Directors find actors they like working with, and find ways to get roles that they can work in. You are right...Lanthimos can do whatever he wants and it's his prerogative. I just find it disappointing that the "hot" young actress in Stone gets to be his muse that he can fit into anything, while the older Colman isn't in any more of his films, despite giving an Oscar winning performance for him, in the same movie Stone was in. Perhaps I'm over thinking it and ageism isn't at play, but y'know, this is the movie industry. |
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Post by stabcaesar on May 8, 2024 4:37:19 GMT
How are some people here incapable of talking about Colman without mentioning her looks. Ffs. Geez, commenting on how an actor looks, what monsters we are.  People have become so fucking fragile lately. These people literally sell their faces and bodies for a living, but we are now supposed to coddle their feelings and can't even use soft expressions like "not conventionally pretty"? Give me a fucking break. If one wants to be a celebrity, accept that strangers will talk about how you look on the internet or in private, and sometimes very cruelly. That's literally part of your job. If your ego can't handle that, find a different job. It's that simple. I'm sure Olivia Colman is mature and wise enough to not be bothered by being called "not conventionally pretty". |
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Post by pupdurcs on May 8, 2024 4:55:24 GMT
Yeah, I think it's absolutely valid to discuss an actors looks (In positive or negative terms) when it comes to castability and career options. I don't think it's being wantonly cruel or rude in that context. In some contexts it is rude and uneccesary, but this isn't one of them.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on May 8, 2024 13:02:00 GMT
Why is is fucked up or disrespectful for Lanthimos to not have cast her again? He doesn’t owe her anything. A director should only focus on who they think is the best fit for the roles in the film they are working on is not the best fit for every Lanthimos movie. He just likes working with her, and that's fine. Leonardo DiCaprio is not the best fit for every movie he does with Scorsese, but they like working together. That's how the buisness works. Directors find actors they like working with, and find ways to get roles that they can work in. You are right...Lanthimos can do whatever he wants and it's his prerogative. I just find it disappointing that the "hot" young actress in Stone gets to be his muse that he can fit into anything, while the older Colman isn't in any more of his films, despite giving an Oscar winning performance for him, in the same movie Stone was in. Perhaps I'm over thinking it and ageism isn't at play, but y'know, this is the movie industry. Wha role would Colman have fit into for Poor Things? Because that and Kind of Kindness are the only feature films he’s made since The Favourite and we can’t speak to the roles in the latter yet. And that’s not even taking into consideration other commitments Colman may have already had. You’re viewing this in a very skewed manner. |
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Post by mhynson27 on May 8, 2024 13:54:07 GMT
Emma Stone is not the best fit for every Lanthimos movie. He just likes working with her, and that's fine. Leonardo DiCaprio is not the best fit for every movie he does with Scorsese, but they like working together. That's how the buisness works. Directors find actors they like working with, and find ways to get roles that they can work in. You are right...Lanthimos can do whatever he wants and it's his prerogative. I just find it disappointing that the "hot" young actress in Stone gets to be his muse that he can fit into anything, while the older Colman isn't in any more of his films, despite giving an Oscar winning performance for him, in the same movie Stone was in. Perhaps I'm over thinking it and ageism isn't at play, but y'know, this is the movie industry. Because that and Kind of Kindness are the only feature films he’s made since The Favourite and we can’t speak to the roles in the latter yet. And that’s not even taking into consideration other commitments Colman may have already had. You’re viewing this in a very skewed manner. He'll probably say Kathryn Hunter's. |
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Post by pupdurcs on May 8, 2024 14:32:49 GMT
Emma Stone is not the best fit for every Lanthimos movie. He just likes working with her, and that's fine. Leonardo DiCaprio is not the best fit for every movie he does with Scorsese, but they like working together. That's how the buisness works. Directors find actors they like working with, and find ways to get roles that they can work in. You are right...Lanthimos can do whatever he wants and it's his prerogative. I just find it disappointing that the "hot" young actress in Stone gets to be his muse that he can fit into anything, while the older Colman isn't in any more of his films, despite giving an Oscar winning performance for him, in the same movie Stone was in. Perhaps I'm over thinking it and ageism isn't at play, but y'know, this is the movie industry. Wha role would Colman have fit into for Poor Things? Because that and Kind of Kindness are the only feature films he’s made since The Favourite and we can’t speak to the roles in the latter yet. And that’s not even taking into consideration other commitments Colman may have already had. You’re viewing this in a very skewed manner. I've already said I was probably overthinking it, so I can't really add much more. |
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Post by cherry68 on May 8, 2024 18:30:28 GMT
How are some people here incapable of talking about Colman without mentioning her looks. Ffs. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 8, 2024 18:59:47 GMT
really enjoyed Good Luck to You, Leo Grande. Don't care much for road movies but Hyde knows how to work with actors and the premise sounds intriguing, so I'm excited. I wonder if Colman's role will be similar to her work on Heartstopper (where she also plays a supportive mum). I'd be down for a whole movie of that  |
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on May 8, 2024 19:12:28 GMT
I wonder if Coleman's role will be similar to her work on Heartstopper (where she also plays a supportive mum). Inb4 mhynson27 responds as our resident spelling police officer for actors' names...  |
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on May 8, 2024 19:16:06 GMT
I wonder if Coleman's role will be similar to her work on Heartstopper (where she also plays a supportive mum). Inb4 mhynson27 responds as our resident spelling police officer for actors' names... Dammit nvmd it was corrected before I replied  |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 8, 2024 19:20:07 GMT
I wonder if Coleman's role will be similar to her work on Heartstopper (where she also plays a supportive mum). Inb4 mhynson27 responds as our resident spelling police officer for actors' names... damnit I thought I fixed it before anyone saw |
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on May 8, 2024 19:26:52 GMT
Inb4 mhynson27 responds as our resident spelling police officer for actors' names... damnit I thought I fixed it before anyone saw  |
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Post by quetee on May 8, 2024 20:14:51 GMT
Calling someone not conventionally pretty is actually a compliment.
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Post by cherry68 on May 8, 2024 20:18:33 GMT
Calling someone not conventionally pretty is actually a compliment. I'm not conventionally young. |
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Post by mhynson27 on May 9, 2024 0:40:56 GMT
I wonder if Coleman's role will be similar to her work on Heartstopper (where she also plays a supportive mum). Inb4 mhynson27 responds as our resident spelling police officer for actors' names... Damn you, out here stealing jobs. T'was too busy sleeping  |
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