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How come Randy, Marlon, Jermaine, Tito, and Jackie Jackson didn’t become a globe star like Michael like reach the same level of fame like Michael
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Michael just had “it” and he had the drive that none of them had
Not only drive, appeal. He made amazing music, he was attractive, could dance, he was a showman. This man created words lol. Shamon, Chumon lol.
He didn’t create shamone, nor did he create Hee Stevie said it a lot especially on the Innervisions album, and he didn’t create vocal hiccups either I don’t think I’m pretty sure another artist is known for that and I’m pretty sure I’ve heard Stevie do it too but yes I get your point
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The post wasn’t about her 😭 it was about the brothers
WDYM? Janet is well known around the world, but not as well known as Michael.
What I meant to say was how come Janet and Michael where more successful than there own brothers when they grew up in the same house
Janet and Michael had a similar drive and talent that the others didn’t
Yes, you are right. I guess it is because they were more creative when it comes to their songs. They have their own "trademark"/ "branding".
They both fired Joe and took control of their own careers.
Realistically, they can’t all be same successful? There will always be someone who stands out more.
Michael had more talent. End of discussion.
I agree but he also had such a strong work ethic on top of his talents which made him the undeniable King of Pop.
Also true. The amount of work he poured into his craft (from grade school age mind you) is simply otherworldly. He was always gonna be the star of the family.
His work ethic was because his father stuck that into him with fear and abuse unfortunately. He did with all of them
And he had more public interest..he was also front and center of attention in terms of the band, so naturally ppl would gravitate toward him..but he was a born showman..all these things cascade into MJ being the point of center
He was cute, could sing, could write, could dance, a trendsetter, could produce, and arrange. Everybody can’t do that. It’s incredibly hard to make ONE hit song, he made tons. I think Mike and Janet are just ppl who you will never see another one of. There’s only one of them.
Here’s an unpopular opinion, since you mentioned hit maker. He was also well connected. In an industry like this, you have to be well connected, to strike it lucky. There are thousands upon thousands of people who can write and produce etc etc, but their music will never see the light of day simply because they are not well connected in the industry.
His connections were from hard work. J5 didn't make it big right away, they spent time in competitions and chitlin circuit, night clubs..
Michael also created his own company which gave him freedom & independence.
True, but his outsized stardom relative to his brothers was firmly established back in the J5/Jacksons days.
I appreciate your TED talk.
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Michael worked very hard to get what he wanted. I can’t say for sure but maybe the others didn’t have the drive and determination. He made sure he was seen on MTV when great black artists were ignored. Well ,we all know the story. The brothers are all very talented in their own way but Michael was special. ❤️
Yeah plus he did broke down racial boundaries for other black artist to shine
They simply didn't have the "it" factor. Michael had a voice so powerful, it made his emotionless grandfather cry when he sang to Climb Ev'ry Mountain.
Cause they weren't him
They don’t have what Michael had. The true grit and compassion.
From the time he was in the jackson 5. He was pushed to be the star. Plus he danced and wanted to get better at dancing. He wrote his hits and came up with amazing music videos. All of that is why janet became popular. They were great showman/woman. None of the brothers were dancing and singing like him. Also the things he did, the way he acted
Because Michael is the definition of a true star… compassion, talent, and a drive to make great music
Jermaine TRIED HIS BEEESSTTT. 😂 They had talents for sure but they were no Michael. MJ was unique,original. The brothers were pretty much like everyone else,nothing special.
They are skilled musicians, but michael climbed Everest while they were just walking a steep incline
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Michael worked his ass off and didn’t let distractions get in his way. I don’t think the brothers are talentless they just didn’t strive higher. At of them all I could see Jermaine have a decent level of success but he just didn’t do it. I think he liked the fame more than the work to get it. The others I don’t think cared much about that type of thing and honestly just don’t have the star power to carry a solo career. Jermaine honestly underperformed.
Agree..Jermaine has a good voice and is talented also but yeah he didn't have work ethic and drive like Janet and MJ. He also had a bit of ego too
Agreed, he also had the looks of a star as well.
2300 Jackson St. was a decent record I will die on that hill
Me too
Everybody doesn’t have the “IT” factor. Talent can only take so far
listen to any jackson 5 song there’s a reason he’s on lead a lot pure raw talent janet also exists
Michael had the voice, chat
Um uh, Talent? Hard work? Dedication?
Michael had a vision. Everyone else could've, but they weren't as hungry as MJ. It's like every other boy band. JT was the hungrier guy from N-Sync. Beyoncé was always meant to be the child of destiny from Destiny's Child. (Kelly Rowland is great by the way). Recently, I just found out Eminem was in a group. Look at Eminem, he was the hungrier member. That doesn't mean everyone else sucked either! It just means that everyone else was fine with the money they were making, and one person wanted to be etched in history.
Michael absolutely destroyed his brothers vocally and out-danced them. ‘Can you feel it’ demonstrates the vocal superiority clearly.
And blame it on the boogie
They wouldn’t have even gotten signed without him
Michael had Talent
I actually forgot how good his brothers were at singing until I heard Jermaine sing at Michael’s service.
Michael had the drive and talent. Even when he was dancing with his brothers, doing the same exact choreography, Michael still stood out. Michael also stated that the brothers weren't as dedicated to the work as he was. They had women, wives, and children to share their time with.
Michael and Janet truly embraced the hard work. I do wish the brothers had done more, even behind the scenes, by founding major record labels, writing and producing top hits, and even done shows like American Idol because they know the business. Randy is probably the best songwriter of the brothers, followed by Jackie. Jermaine just had a lot going on in her personal life. Then he was battling his kid brother during Thriller. I believe Jermaine could have carved out a different lane in Soul/R&B had he truly worked at it.
What song did Randy and Jackie wrote
Jackie co-wrote Torture and Randy co-wrote Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)
Ohhh love those songs
Also, they need to do a documentary about how they got all these brothers together for the 2001 performance after everything that happened. 🔥
Some people can't fly solo ask Freddie mercury, he left queen and bombed ,when he rejoined the group he was great
Much more talent. The same as Janet Jackson.
I think it’s because of work ethic
I'm sorry, but when you listen to the lyrics in the Jacksons' albums and note the liners saying who wrote which song, it was just too obvious Michael was millions of notches above his brothers, it was not only dancing and singing, but Michael was miles ahead as a songwriter and poet as well. Just like Janet is.
Gotta give it to Randy tho, he stands out as a songwriter too.
But all of them are very talented. It's just that Michael and Janet were a one of a kind talent.
Only jackson close to michaels level was Janet. He was light years ahead of her
I think Jermaine had a lovely. It was soulful and warm. However, he didn't have the drive and version of MJ. He was a RnB artist first and foremost and quite old school. Whereas MJ went pure pop and put alot of emphasis on dance and videos.
MJ just have the whole package. It’s similar to any group. Beyoncé has that IT factor. The only group I’ve ever seen where everyone was equal was TLC.
Michael was just better.
Micheal was pushed to be the star since day 1.
They couldn’t sing and dance like him
The whole family is extremely talented, but out of the brother Michael had “it”.
Some of his unfortunate comments regarding Michael aside, I think Jermaine's stuff, especially the Arista albums, are highly underrated. 2300 Jackson Street is an excellent album as well even without Michael.
One - they're not as talented. Two - they didn't put in the amount of work on their solo projects that he put in on his. Three - it was always all about him even when they were a group. There's something about him, a star quality that no one else has. And I don't mean just in the family but in the world. This is the difference between being a celebrity, being a star, being a legend and being a phenomenon. He has been gone nearly 15 years and the impact of his career is still being felt. Like Gordy said: Michael was not the kind of entertainer that comes along once in a generation or once in a lifetime. He was the kind of entertainer that comes around once. There will never, EVER be another like him. But you got to be realistic here; Joe and Katherine had nine kids. 9. That's nine people with basically the same physiological makeup who went to the same line of work, and had all the same opportunities. And of those nine, two Rose to promise. There is simply no way of saying that the other seven deserves.
This by far is my favorite comment
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They are not as talented.
Because he was better
Michael is prolly bout to slap tf outta Joe rn for the shit he put him through
They weren’t as talented and had the perception of not being “the star” despite most of them being great entertainers
I think Michael was truly a perfectionist. And that will do it .
Michael was different, he knew show business, he had talent
I heard people say Jermaine could have been huge, but he was "lazy" or something like.
As his episode of "Celebrity Wife Swap" proved! Ha ha ha ha
Jermaine always came across like an entitled man-baby to me.
His dad pushed him..
Well none of them had his voice, his brothers are pretty average singers. How about that as a starting point?
I mean, same reason others haven’t gotten Michael’s level of fame. There is only 1 Michael Jackson. Once in a generation talent
Nah but what kinda roller derby baseball hockey game were they about to play after this photo??
Michael had a reservoir of talent that you couldn’t even imagine. Especially his physical charisma. Seeing him dance was great. He had the physique of a dancer where his legs and arms were long so it added to his moves. He had a great voice.