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This is what happens to all of the unsold apples from my family's orchard

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“The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all.

Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up?

And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains.

And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success.

The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit.

And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange.

And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed.

And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.”

― John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

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Meanwhile getting charged six to seven dollars for a small bag of apples means I buy less apples. A lot of food goes to waste because there aren't buyers, and a lot of buyers aren't buying because of cost.

u/Educational_Power792 avatar

Ive replaced apples with bananas. At least where I live it's a lot more affordable.

u/y0sh1mar10allstarzzz avatar

It’s crazy that a banana grown in the tropics can be sold in North America for cheaper than an apple grown in the same state or province.

But that’s what slave labor in third world countries can do.

u/Educational_Power792 avatar

So if I understand correctly, by buying the food I can afford im supporting slavery.

There really is no way to live ethically in Western society. At least, not legally.

u/sisk91 avatar
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There really is no way to live ethically in Western society. At least, not legally.

You know whats really going to get you mad? Depending on where you live the city can destroy your garden. Their reason was that the grass was too high and not properly maintained, so they destroyed $1000 worth of fruit/flowers.

That also wasn't the only one. The city's reason for destroying a 3 year old community garden that was feeding people was because of "unsafe conditions".

That's also not the only other one. destroyed a medicinal and edible plant garden. She did so because she was unemployed and was going to be self-reliant.

Then there are states where collecting rain water is illegal. And other countries also destroying gardens. Or states making it illegal to go off-the-grid.

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u/Old-Soul-Void avatar

We have Hutterites in our area. They couldn't sell their potatoes recently. They dumped them near a road and told the local news to tell folks to come get them.

It’s always nice when a group passes on a bounty that’s more than they can consume.

u/windsostrange avatar

It's human. This is a human trait. And it is good.

u/Nowardier avatar

If ever there were an objectively moral act, it would be giving food to those who need it.

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Pumpkin farmers did this in 2020 in my area. "We can't sell these, please come take as many as you'd like."

If I remember correctly, we had a shortage of pumpkins here. Wow, so different!

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u/zenithopus avatar

I literally ate potatoes from potato mountain for dinner tonight. I have a feeling we live in the same town!

Pics of Mt. Potates?

I don't know, that's more like a potato hill. JK jk

Honestly would love to be able to just grab as many potatoes as I can. I'd be handing bags of potatoes out like business cards.

"Hey, John! I haven't seen you in forever how's the kids?"

"Awesome, awesome. So, I have these potatoes..."

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This and the apples together and you can make "earth and heaven". An easy and lovely side dish from germany

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i hate the large fries are like $5-8 at local burger joints.

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There's a "Great Potato Rescue" this weekend in my city -- over 20 tons of potatoes saved from the landfill and being handed out for free. So great to see.

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Yeah. I’m from this town too. It was pretty cool of them.

u/Mr_crazey61 avatar

Either you live in the greater Spokane area or this same thing happened in two different places.

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u/Thick-Plan5145 avatar

Hutterites are such nice and generous folk.

very interesting. My sister is in Nine Mile Falls and told the family about this recently. They ended up with over 5 gallons of hash browns shredded and frozen. They also took some for seed potatoes.

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They don't get processed into apple juice, pie filling, or applesauce?

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They could've been, but there were no buyers. People aren't consuming as many apples as they used to due to high prices set by grocery stores.

EDIT: I'm not involved with the orchard in any way, as I live in a different state. My family has just informed me that this is a picture of apples dumped from a whole bunch of different orchards, not just from my family's--that is why there are so many. In their words: "this is what happens when there are more apples grown than consumers can eat." Regardless, it sucks to see it all go to waste

Keeping doctors gainfully employed.

American Medical Association definitely has their fingers in this pie

11/10 doctors approved

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u/brucecaboose avatar

Clearly not an apple pie though 

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A doctor a day keeps the apple away.

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u/smokinbbq avatar

Can't afford to! Not really true for me, but apples used to be a cheap fruit to have, but at my local grocery stores, the prices are crazy, and it's $6-$9 for a bag of apples. If I want to buy the nicer "Honey Crisp" ones, they are $2.99/lb on sale, and upwards of $4.99 when not on sale.

u/JaguarZealousideal55 avatar

I just can't understand how it can be better to let food go to waste like this rather than selling them at a lower price. It feels sinful. (And that is a strange sentence coming from an atheist.)

u/Classical_Cafe avatar

The dairy industry in Canada is literally run by a cartel. They dump millions of gallons of milk so supply never exceeds demand and keeps prices high. We pay 40% more for dairy than the states.

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u/AppUnwrapper1 avatar

The farmer’s market here sells peaches for $5/lb and then gets a huge tax write-off for the stuff they don’t sell because they donate it to City Harvest. The homeless are eating the $5/lb peaches.

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u/RunawayHobbit avatar

Go read The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck. He breaks it down really well.

The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

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u/Anewaxxount avatar

Because there is still costs to transport, package, process the apples. Once it falls below a certain level it's just not worth doing. That's even assuming there would be demand for them.

This is part of why there are various subsidies and agricultural regulations from the government. Too little food supply is very bad, too much that tanks prices directly leads to too little and is very bad. It's all about keeping a balance

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Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up?

And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country.

Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit.

And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot.

The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed.

And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze;

and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath.

In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

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It undercuts the market so much that the market would collapse. Farming is at the point where everything has advanced so fast in such a short period or time that the economics of it are totally broken. That's why there are so many government programs when it comes to agriculture. If everything was sold at pure market rates all but the largest farmers would be out of business.

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u/BasketballButt avatar

I spent a lot of my life in apple country so maybe my take is skewed but I remember apples being one of the cheap fruits. Now they’re more expensive than even some berries and it blows my mind. I miss the days of fujis the size of a softball for 89 cents a pound.

u/Rddtlvscensor2 avatar

You know they're one of the cheapest fruits because almost any juice blend always has apple juice as the number one ingredient

u/Horror_Tart8618 avatar

Not sure how long back you're referring, but $0.89 in 1990 is $2.13 today. That's more expensive than my local grocery ($1.54)

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u/rwhockey29 avatar

Paying taxes to subsidize orchards that throw away their product due to lack of buyers, because we can't afford the price anymore is peak capitalism.

Honeycrisp is 1.50 a pound at my local Costco, but like any fruit the prices fluctuate based on the season.

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u/Sufficient_Scale_163 avatar

It’s like $2 for a single apple, maybe that’s why.

How is it possible that the price is too high for consumers yet there's excess supply?

I’m an apple farmer and the answer is the retailers. Take honeycrisp apple for example they used to wholesale for $40-$60 a bushel this year they are selling for ~$23 a bushel. Yet the retail price has barely come down at all. Guess who’s keeping all that extra money? It’s the grocery store!

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From the UK here- it's a shame the US never really went for alcoholic cider in the same way we do over here where it's a genuine rival for beer. There's micro cider breweries everywhere doing good business. I go to one of the local beer festivals each year and there's always a big local cider section that's super popular in the summer

The apple orchards near me do alcoholic cider

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u/NYanae555 avatar

Aren't the varieties different? Like - the apples used for cider and not the same types used for eating or baking?

They are, best apple cider are made from very bitter apples. Remember tasting my GMother apples : brrrr ouch…

Traditionally yes but there's some really interesting ones that use eating apples. At the last beer fest I went to there were like 100 different ciders and a bunch of them were made with eating apples. They tend to be a bit sweeter I think?

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u/alvik avatar

We've kind of started to, but I swear I can find more THC drinks than hard ciders nowadays, especially at bars.

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u/Canbused4sex avatar

Cider isn’t unpopular here really, it’s just that we have so many options for drinks. My wife loves the flavor of cider but her go to is usually moscato since it takes less calories to get a decent buzz.

Is moscato different in the US? In Australia it’s a sweet wine that’s really high in calories (higher than cider) and similar alcohol content (5.5%)?

In fact to drink the same amount of alcohol, it’s slightly more calories drinking moscato than cider (depending on the cider of course).

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That gets right to the core of the issue

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u/TheCrazyWolfy avatar

Sure but I bet if you listed for like 25cents/lb people would be stocking the fuck up. Not much but better than nothing at all

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u/fudge_friend avatar

Hungry for Apples?

u/RespectableNoob avatar

Shut up, Jerry

My man!

SLOW DOWN!

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u/yarrbeapirate2469 avatar

My man!

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u/Prostock26 avatar

The price paid won't even cover the transport expenses 

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u/fallingveil avatar

Businesses destroy excess production, this is an intrinsic factor of our economic system, it's hard to justify charging a sustained price for your product when the reality is post-scarcity.

Some Steinbeck:

And the smell of rot fills the country.

Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate—died of malnutrition—because the food must rot, must be forced to rot.

The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

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u/FestiveSquidV3 avatar

This reminds me of when I was younger and spending the summer with my father. I went to the apple orchard right outside of town with a girl who was either related to the owner or family friends. We ran into him in the parking lot for the orchard's shop and he gave us permission to take as many apples as we wanted, free of charge.

I ate sooooooooo many apples that day of several different varieties.

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Kinda similar story. When I was in high school my baseball team travelled out of town for a game to a really small town that had massive orange orchards (groves?). It smelled so amazing during the game, it was distracting. After the game, a group of the locals passed out some paper grocery bags and told us we could pick as many oranges as we wanted to take home. That was about 20 years ago and I've still never had better oranges than those we picked that day.

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Any chance this was in central FL? I have a near-identical core memory of doing that when playing away games in Frostproof, FL.

u/Taylorenokson avatar

Nope this was is California.

u/chesty157 avatar

Love it! Two opposite sides of the country, same exp 🤙

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u/cookiesarenomnom avatar

Apple trees produce so many fucking apples. My dad had 10 dwarf trees growing up. They're about half the size of normal sized trees. He would literally walk around the neighborhood begging the neighbors to take a giant basket of apples so they wouldn't go to waste. And believe me, we ate A LOT of apples in every form imaginable every day for months. Still had way too many.

Yeah, we had 4 full size trees, most apples went into bin. There are waaaaaaaaaay too many apples every other year. You make jams, you make juice, you make cider, you eat them raw and bake them into pies. You give shit loads to friends and family. AND STILL MOST END UP IN THE FUCKING BIN!

Time to get an orchard pig!

We have ONE apple tree. And this is our experience too. I'd drown in apples with FOUR TREES.

Though some local farms will take them for feed.

You could donate to a food bank. They'd probably make good use of it.