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Hell or High Water is pretty dang good cinema
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Watched this modern western for the first time a few days ago. A really compelling story with top notch casting, directing, cinematography, acting, and writing. Bridges, Pine, and Foster were in top form.
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Pretty dang good? It’s a modern classic.
One of my favorite films
“I have my own gun!”
"Boy, you'd think there were 10 of me".
One of my top 10 for sure, only complaint is that Pine (who kills it) is distractingly pretty for his character
Yeah I always felt the same with that
That's true, but at least it's got Ben Foster. Literally can't go wrong with Ben Foster and his roles.
Always excellent yeah. And Jeff Bridges.
lol my only complaint as well. Rein in those eyelashes, hombre.
You don’t get to say poverty is like a disease that’s in your family’s blood with those
MUAFUCKIN BABY BLUES
If you stop by, maybe I'll give you peace
The ending is beautiful western ambiguity.
Give me hell or high water over no country for old men every day of the week.
Why not both?
That's not how ranked choice works
😂😂😂 that’s funny I needed a good laugh
The scene at the end between pine and bridges is top tier. Just felt real, no hollywood bullshit, no Pacino and deniro in heat (one of my all time fave movies) shaking hands. Just raw hostility.
It is one of the best endings in a movie that isnt action based . I love this film and wonder what happens afterwards? Does one of them bring peace to the other ?
The total lack of remorse in Pines character is fascinating and not what I expected. He's basically like I'm not sorry for jack shit.
It is a moment of realization for sure . No remorse. When he says “i’m ready to be done with this ….” The context suddenly changes to what “this” is . The past and the crimes ? Life ? Is there a begrudging respect or an acceptance that one of them won’t live ? Leaves you thinking for sure . Somehow fitting that ending.
That's the interesting part, I feel like he has zero respect for bridges in any way. It's just cold disdain, he doesn't even seem actually mad about his brother. I sense no death wish from him either, it's more like "I'm younger stronger and faster, and I'll win. I was happy to just go on with my life but if you insist, I'm ready to put you down and be done with this and move on".
To me it felt like something in him had just finally broken when he realized his brother was going off to his death. Everything up till then felt like a chaotic joyride that he was somehow able to control a bit, but when his brother told him they had to part ways he realized he was never in control and there was no happy ending for either of them. He straight up just stopped caring about life. All he wanted at that point was to fulfill the promise to his family and after that he had no purpose. It wasn't like his ex wanted him around anymore. When it came to the final scene, I think the only one of them with any real hatred towards the other was Daniels' character towards Pine's. The latter didn't give a shit about anything anymore, probably would only kill the ranger if somehow his family was threatened.
Exactly, his character had nothing to lose and his brother got that 3am call to bring his shovel and he did, no questions asked.
The first time I saw this, I was so angry at the ending for the lack of closure. But then I watched it again, and I realized how damn good of an ending that really was.
Felt the same . And on rewatch the dynamic became more apparent to me . Bridges starts the scene clearly trying to provoke Pine . “You know who i am ? I’m the guy that killed your brother”, followed by a number of put downs about his dumb brother who just wanted to rob and steal but Pine doesn’t take any of the bait . After the banter and the family arrives Bridges says “ amazing what we will do for our children “ and something changes in them both . Again is there begrudging respect or at least acceptance or are they just postponing the shoot out ? Have played out those endings a dozen times in my mind and can’t decide 🙂. But that 15 second stare down they have is chilling 🤣
It also has some of my favorite dialogue ever “poverty is like a desease passing on from generation to generation” something along those lines. What a true and harrowing line.
So many great lines but this was top notch and so true.
It's the best Neo Western since No Country
The first time I saw “No Country” I liked it but definitely missed a lot and was expecting the typical hero saving e day routine.
One of my all time favorites now. The book is great too.
Hell of High Water is fantastic.
That one was also a masterpiece. Cormac Mccarthy (writer of the book no country for old men) also wrote one called the blood meridian which was just announced to get a movie adaptation, and although it's a period western, it still should be fantastic and have the same morality and storytelling as no country for old men.
I’m excited for it but it’s going to be a challenge to adapt to the big screen
The dead babies or the scalping people?
Both. Plus the raping of children.
There’s just something about that restaurant scene that just solidifies this movie and shows the genius of Taylor Sheridan. The old lady going off about “what don’t you want” has nothing to do with the story but that scene needs to be in the movie
You know. I've been working here for 44 years. Ain't nobody ever ordered nothing but T-Bone steak and a baked potato.
Except for this one time this fella from New York came in. It must’ve been 19…87. He ordered trout. Well we don’t serve no goddam trout.
He was from New York!
Only assholes drink Mr pibb
Fixed it
This and Sicario, great scripts
Don't forget Wind River. The trio is Taylor Sheridan at his absolute best.
Why are you flanking me?
The flanking was the craziest moment!
Agree with this 100%. He needs to do more movies. I cannot wait for Empire of The Summer Moon. He does excellent movies. Love his shows but his movies are superior.
Is a movie?
Yes, with Elizabeth Olsen and Jeremy Renner. If you've not seen it, I highly recommend it.
Taylor Sheridan wrote all three of these movies (Sicario, Wind River, and Hell or High Water) around the same time. He was absolutely on fire then.
She was the “it’s got two double beds” lady in No Country for Old Men.
lol that "genius" responsible for that god awful scene in yellow stone where the cowboy broke his spine, then his girlfriend banged him on his hospital bed the next day.
dudes a moron.
Taylor Sheridan is a great story teller, but you can’t get everything right all the time. You’re right, that scene with Jimmy in the hospital was pretty dumb, but it gave Jimmy depth as a character and made us root for him. Sheridan isn’t a medical professional that fully understands the problems associated with having sex in that situation, but he’s telling a story and developing a character.
Personally I can’t stand Beth Dutton and her character development (or lack there of) or how he could’ve made Jamie into something more imposing but got lost in the weeds in a story about this birth father. But I can still see Sheridan’s great storytelling and story building through all that.
I quit watching due to her character. Just absolute-evil-heightened-to-a-silly-degree nonsense. Beth is written like a supervillain, and I’d argue it doesn’t serve the larger story.
She serves as the business/finance enforcer and goon. She can strategize in a way none of the others characters can and she’s not afraid to make enemies. She could’ve been a great character if she wasn’t so underdeveloped
agreed, he has no idea how to write a woman.
you dont need to be, if your spine is broken you cant have a chick bounce up and down on your pee pee without doing more damage and screaming in pain. its not rocket science.
all i am saying is calling the dude a genius, is way off the mark. but to each his own
I love the Bank scene
“Will you please keep up with the situation!”
“I have my own gun”
A modern classic. Ben Foster is amazing. Love the scene at the gas station.
Youda thought der was teno’me
Listen close during the gas station scene when the guys pull up in the green car. You can hear the trunk rattling and vibrating when the bass hits. Cuz those are exactly the type of bros that would add a giant stereo but not put in the final bit off work to fix the rattles.
Just a nice little detail.
Dents the fuck out of the door too when it goes down.
I'll watch anything Ben Foster is in. I feel like he does great in whatever role he's given. Loved him in 3:10 To Yuma.
He’s in The Mechanic as well.
Yep! That might be where I 1st saw him then checked out other movies he was in.
He’s absolutely fantastic at playing intense and wild characters.
Has to be hard for him to get a job as a good guy
If you think that then go watch Finestkind lol.
Wasn't a great movie, but it was okay. I enjoyed Ben Foster's performance in it. There's a few actors who have that effect of, The movie might not be great, but they still do well in it.
Finestkind!
One of the only films I've ever seen to directly address the economic gutting of white middle America. A rare gem of a film.
“3 tours in Iraq, but no bailout for people like us.”
Killing them Softly has similar vibes also.
Except I’m pretty sure there’s never been much of a middle to West Texas.
No need to be pedantic. You know what I mean.
Who gets drunk on beer?
This is some top shelf shit right here, son.
Ten of me
YES! I love that entire scene.
I can't tell if this, Wind River, or 1883 is my favorite work from Sheridan.
He worked on sicario too, that’s one of my favorites.
Oh man that crossing border scene in traffic is one of the most tense, really can't beat that. Second movie is good too
Jeff Bridges, Chris Pine and Ben Foster?! Some damn fine acting right here. Love this movie
I genuinely enjoyed Gil Birmingham's character. Very much an ice cube to Bridges' character.
What don't you want?
Some asshole in 1987 ordered trout
Steaks cooked medium rare.
Can I get my steak cooked just a...
That *weren'*t no question.
Iced tea for you boys. Ice tea sounds great.
Foster is very underrated
Definitely a great movie. Not being American all them Texans with their guns getting into the trucks really hit the trope of how Texans are perceived (in my experience anyway)
They were in New Mexico. It’s not a trope out here, NM & TX. You definitely don’t know.