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When her grandmother dies
I sincerely think it will shock her. Maybe at that moment she will realize what death is, that no one is eternal and that death or whatever is not "cool". Her condition is not "cool" or "pretty".
Sincerely I hope that as late as possible but I'm afraid that if her grandmother disappears, her condition will deteriorate much more.
I would be curious to see how she would react to that, her emotions, her sadness, her feelings. I think a part of her will totally collapse.
For a good chunk of people, the end goal of severe anorexia is death. Death in the family or any other suffering just makes the mental illness in some people worse
It is likely that she locks herself in the streams of dozens of hours which she is addicted to forget. But it is obvious that it will have an impact on her psyche whether she likes it or not, hopefully it will click even if I don't believe it too much anymore.
Thank you for this.
Last time her grandma had health issues she did like 12 hour streams so I’m guessing she’ll do that again?
Does she use the stream as an excuse to not eat or drink?
This is very likely.
Yeah it would make sense
Yeah. The streams, her videos, all of that is her world and the only things that allow her to manage her anxiety and the extreme phases she is going through. It is on that she uses that to take her mind off things and not to think at all on a daily basis. What a shitty family.
Too bad her audience doesn’t get paid to be her therapist...
Her audience is mostly people who should never offer advice or support to anyone ever that’s going through something lol
Yeah but a couple therapists “made her worse” so I guess siphoning emotional labor from her audience on the sly is all she has. It’s not like she has any resources to look for and pay for someone better...oh wait....
I don't think she really cares tbh...
I still remember when her grandma was at her door during streaming and she couldn't even be bothered to pause the stream.
She only seems to care about herself. I don't know if that comes from the illness, or if she is simply a selfish person. But she gets so much love from other people and literally gives zero back. It's infuriating and sad at the same time.
That is what narcissists do. Take take take take never give and throw bitch fits when things don’t go their way. They’re grown children people really lol.
Yup my ex whom I share a child with is a huge narcissist they both show all the same qualities too.
I disagree. I think that she has reached a point in her life (or rather her illness) where she is so emotionally detached from life that she probably won't process her grandma's death. Not saying she doesn't care about her, I just feel like she won't have the emotional or psychological strength to even process whan happened and wat it means to lose someone.
Also.. if she does feel sad when it happens.. I don't think she'll show any of that on camera. She will go on with her content like nothing happened, maybe just casually mention that her grandma died (if she even addresses it at all).
That's just my prediction, though. I haven't watched her content in a long time. Just her instagram and this sub. But I feel like she probably lives life very emotionally detached from everything.
This was going to be my post, and you said it for me. She is so far into her disease I'm not sure it will even register emotionally. I think she's numb. She is so dialed in to her positivity, I don't think she's capable of experiencing real greif because her body is just trying to stay alive.
Idk I feel like it won’t even phase her. I feel like Eugenia’s feelings are numb and the way she interacts with her grandmother doesn’t scream “I love you and care about you” by any means. She talks to her like a dog, and it sounds very fake.
Yeah you're probably right in hindsight...
She will be shaken for a few hours but will come back to drown her thoughts and her daily life with the Internet.
We can't do anything for her. I was hoping for things to change but with Eugenia better not hope too much.
I agree but what’s sad is that seems like that is the most genuine relationship she has with another person.
Seeing as AN is her only coping mechanism along with the internet… i foresee her getting worse (especially with her moms attention split) and then doing a bunch of manic streams until she breaks down online
As someone with an ed, she probably wants to die. I don't support her content but I think it's cruel and unnecessary to fantasize about her grief when a loved one dies, especially when THAT might be what kills her. More and more people seem to be watching her simply because they want to dissect her emotions, but at least try to remember that she's a person.
I get so sad seeing any videos shes done featuring her grandma. She becomes totally different & is attentive, ptient and caring. There’s a sweet person in there, somewhere. It breaks my heart
I misspoke, I'm not fantasizing about her grief, but we've reached a point where only a psychological shock can save her. Obviously I don't want her grandmother to die, and collapse, but at this point I really wonder that's the only thing that could shake her emotions and make her click. She exposes herself, she sells her life and likes to be talked about. I know she's a person, but I ask myself questions like so many others because it's frustrating to see a girl as beautiful as Eugenia miss out on her life. You are a brave person to face your disorder, it must be painful to struggle with it on a daily basis. It's not easy and I'm sorry if I hurt you, it wasn't my goal.
No, I understand that it comes from compassion. Thank you for being sweet, as well!
I’m not implying you meant this at all, but a pet peeve of mine is something I heard and hated when I was using ”You’re too pretty to be a junkie/ strung out/ whatever” and it’s such a weird thing to say like if I was less conventionally attractive or if you didn’t see me as that it’d be less of a loss? Plus that has nothing to do with your mental health, and to me it’s also unearned, I was born with genes, it’s not like they were complimenoting any of the skills I worked to achieve or my talents if that makes any sense… ? (I’m not trying to “humble-brag” either btw, lol, im pretty insecure about my looks in general and am working on that but in general it’s not an issue because I don’t let myself think about it. I was SA from a young teen age and never wanted anyone to think I looked nice because it made me scared I would be r*pd/ assault*d again so maybe that’s partly why it bugs me idk I‘ve just noticed this in multiple places and it genuinely bugs me).
I’m sure that people were only trying to be nice and shake me out of my addiction but it still strikes me as weird, I.e. “its sad to see a girl as beautiful as Eugenia miss out on her life”. Particularly if it’s feeding into her feeling like her looks are the only thing about her of value.
Maybe I’ll delete this because I really feel like I’m nitpicking and that you didn’t mean it that way. I agree it is a shame to see anyone wasting their life like this and I wonder how much of her actions and choices are because her disease is in control and due to her weird family dynamic and growing up with that and how much is her personality… what’s left of it. I’m not trying to make excuses for her at all either, it’s just something I’ve wondered about.
Grief can kill people. One of the Uvalde victims her husband died from grief.
I think she’s so detached from her emotions that the death won’t really hit her. Like, she’ll sort of be in shock. I can’t imagine her crying out of grief, tbh, we’ve only seen her cry angry/frustrated/anxious tears.
This is coming from someone (me lol) who loved both of her grandmothers dearly and spent a lot of time with them and still hasn’t cried over their death/been able to process the feelings that came with everything. And this was 10 years ago… 😞😬
I also grew up with a very involved/controlling mother like EC, and when that happens you develop a really weird relationship with crying.
I think in Deb’s own twisted, narcissistic way, she does love Eugenia. Or loves her as much as she’s capable of loving someone. And in her and Eugenia’s eyes, EC being outwardly sad and crying would be a huge failure on both their parts. Like… EC wants for nothing, at least materially. Her mom helps her with her youtube and instagram out of “love” and because she wants her daughter to succeed in her career. She was so distraught at the idea of doing anything that would make EC the slightest bit upset, that she pulled her out of school and they both followed the Jonas Brothers around. Even when EC’s teacher said her Bratz obsession was unhealthy, Deb didn’t want to limit them, because it would upset Eugenia.
Eugenia’s mom does everything she possibly can to make Eugenia “happy” so much so that Eugenia isn’t allowed to be sad. Even when it’s appropriate, and even if Deb would expect it in these circumstances. Because Eugenia is so used to always pretending to be happy so that her mom knows she appreciates everything she’s done for her. And it’s hard to just turn off almost 30 years of emotional repression and disassociation lol.
I think when her grandma finally passes, internally, Eugenia might be more upset that she’s unable to feel sad, rather than being able to process her emotions about death and losing a family member
That's a really interesting take on her dynamic with Deb, and I think it's plausible.
It's kind of sad and at the same time shocking to see how far morbid curiosity goes with her now that people gave up on her... Lots of people are just hanging around to see when she will die and now this...
As sad as it is to say that's why I'm still in this sub. I hope she gets well but I don't think she will. I'm suprised she's still here tbh
Unfortunately, I'm here for that too. But also because I want to see a happy ending, a beautiful and good Eugenia, far from all that. Her life is sadly a weird freakshow, it's fascinating at the same time super sad. We want to get her out of there. I watch because I'm afraid she dies and I'm happy when I see that she posts. But the end will be inevitable and it pisses me off. So many years wasted when she has so much potential, it's heartbreaking.
true but right now its a race between her and her grandma... who is going to go to the afterlife first? i doubt she will have a happy ending at this point.
Streaming is a way of coping. When my granny died I needed to have contact with people, so I wouldn’t focus on her death. I think she is that way, most of the time. It distracts her from depressive thoughts. Which, to be honest, I can understand.
I think she’d just think oh, death only happens to old people, like many do.
Exactly
On another note, assuming there is a funeral, it would put Eugenia in front of family and friend attendees. I wonder how that would go when they see Eugenia so sick. Would a random aunt say something about Eugenia's condition when they may have been kept in the dark? Maybe those family members would try to shake her mom and dad and say, "your daughter needs help."
I hate to tell you but when I lost my pop pop I thought "at least I'll die being pretty, instead of old and sick". Your diseased malnourished brain tells you lies and the shock of death may not change anything.
yeah, like my grandma died, i guess? haha guys she was old so. yeah haha like it’s fine haha everyone dies so… like yeah i don’t know guys but yeah it’s like fine guys
My opinion is she will get a little sad and say her grandma was old but not apply the possibility to herself.
I’ve struggled with an ED for years though it’s not something that affects me as much as it used to. Can I ask have you ever gone through Tumblr and just found a pro ana community? Years ago when I would obsessively search for thinspo on tumblr, most of the ana accounts on there regularly expressed that they enjoy the idea of slowly wasting away into nothing. Just food for thought. Many who suffer an ED fantasize about it. Obviously it’s not that way for everyone but
I highly doubt this. She's all about herself. I can just see her be like "ya like my grandma died and stuff like that" obnoxious giggle it certainly won't change her perspective. But I also wonder what would happen if her mother passed cause she seems toxic too.
Is Eugenia an only child?
no, she has a brother
Um I would delete this post…
To be honest, I don’t think it’ll shock her. Also I think she’ll make sure she doesn’t seem too shaken up just because of this post right here.
I agree with others that of course she’s a narc and she doesn’t give af about her grandma and will just milk people’s sympathy for herself however but interesting if she goes to the funeral maybe some family members who haven’t seen her in years will see her up close and realise how bad she has gotten and maybe they might speak up or do something? Hell even find out about her online persona (as her family don’t seem the type of people to be into or know about influencers) and maybe something might happen?
I don’t think this will be the first time she’s experienced a family member dying. I’m sure she’s had other grandparents and family members pass away already.
I’m betting on tearful selfie saying
Literally crying rn 😢🌹💔
Hopefully no “one last selfie with grandma”
I don’t even think she’s capable of caring. She seems so cold when talking to her grandma like there’s no love there at all.
the only thing that made me recover from my anorexia was my dad dying. idk if it was just the shock of death being so final & scary & sad & painful looking or if it was just my depressed response to eat my feelings after barely eating anything for years to feel in control of something. because after that i realized that even tho i felt like i was in control from not eating, i truly was never in control of anything EXCEPT how much i was eating so my brain just said f*ck it i guess? idk i hope it would help her recover & not want to die but everyone is different so there’s really no way to know.