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As much as I love Scream 5, I would’ve had Vince as the killer instead of Richie.
I like Richie, but I just felt like the way he was used as the killer was weak. Just saying. Sometimes the obvious killer isn’t a bad thing and sometimes a twist doesn’t work.
Now what would Vince’s motive be in the movie you may ask?
Motive. Embracing his uncle’s legacy and attempting to turn Sam into his partner for her to embrace her father’s legacy. This time, the Macher is the mastermind and groomed Amber to be his partner like Richie did.
Making Vince the mastermind could have added an extra layer onto the lambasting of toxic fandom.
Like, Amber could still have 100% been the toxic fan, but you could add on a commentary about how her being as entitled and angry as she was about the Stab movies not doing exactly what she wanted was what allowed Vince to take advantage and groom her into doing what he wanted.
Which is what Richie did too, but adding in a little twist that Vince didn’t actually give a fuck about the Stab movies would have been a nice bit of frosting on top of things.
Sort of like what Mrs Loomis did with Mickey, with how truly terrible people can and do manipulate impressionable kids into doing horrendous things.
The one thing I would change is I would save Dewey’s death for Scream 6 and the big death would be Richie is killed instead of Dewey. We get one moment of Sidney, Dewey and Gale together. Dewey is with the Carpenter sisters. The Vince reveal happens and Vince mortally wounds/knocks Dewey out. Sid & Gale kill Amber while Sam kills Vince.
And Scream 6, same movie but the motives is Ethan and Quinn are Vince’s siblings and Bailey is Vince’s father and we see one more Ghostface, Leslie Macher and it’s the Macher’s revenge against the Carpenters.
And as for Dewey’s death in Scream 6. Bailey kills Dewey. I feel like one cop killing the other would’ve worked better, especially since Bailey is a dark reflection of Dewey.
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I remember back in December 2020, someone changed his name on IMDB to "Vince Loomis" and everyone thought he was Billy's brother
I think it would have been a bit predictable, but I also would have really enjoyed it. I feel like they really wasted his character. He shows up, seems a bit intimidating, then gets killed after about 3 minutes of screen time. I’d rather him not have been in the movie at all if that was the route they really wanted to take.
I wonder if the thought process was something like ‘We have the Macher house, we don’t need a relative to really be involved’.
I just want a Stu successor in my Scream movies, that's all.
I did think it was a waste to have a character connected to one of the original killers whose sole purpose is to die. I don’t think he had more than a simple paragraph of dialogue.
i see where you’re coming from and i like your ideas, but Vince’s only (known) connection to the main cast is hooking up with Liv Mckenzie. i think they’d have to make some sort of stronger inclusion of him into their lives.
he was literally stu's nephew. he had a far stronger connection to the main cast than richie.
by main cast i mean the new cast. sidney and gale weren’t really involved in the situation until act 3. so what would justify Vince’s presence in the movie leading up to act 3? he’s just some perv. unless you were thinking he would only be in the scene where he catcalls liv and then he’s the killer which would be strange.
the fact that sam's father drove his uncle to become a serial killer? lmao
but what reason would he have for being around the group and being present in the movie
He was stus nephew, not uncle
oh really? i thought he was the uncle of a man who died 30 years ago? obviously a typo lmao
Kyle Gallner would've played an awesome Ghostface
You had me until Scream 6
How would any of the characters not recognize Vince’s family? They all live in the same town.
I do like this, and probably would have preferred it to the Richie reveal (although I don't dislike his GF per say, but I think what you're describing is better and the motive & connection fits in much better with it being the 25th anniversary of the original killings).
It's a good way to get more Macher love in there too (I nearly broke my screen when Sam described the original Woodsboro spree as "some kid called Billy Loomis killing his friends" - the disrespect 🙄😤).
Idk I would say More like Wes and Liv
It shouldn’t have been Richie bc jack quaid was great as pre-reveal Richie. He was honestly good as psycho Richie too but he brought a lot of fun to the film in act 1 and 2 and I would’ve liked to see where Richie goes after becoming a Stab fan because of the murder spree he experiences (kinda the inverse of what we usually see w characters who are familiar w stab/horror ending up not being fans of horror media)…also would’ve been interesting to see a love interest last more than one film
That was such a Wasted opportunity to not have a Stu Macher relative as a killer🤦🏾♂️
Liv and Amber would have been the best pair IMO. I was shocked when Vince died so early, thought he was going to be involved in the plot more