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The only information known about Bertrada or Berta comes from the founding of the Abbey of Prüm with Charibert in 721.... However, it's disputed as to whether the Bertrada in question was actually Charibert's wife. [1]
Bertrada [1] was born about 670. [2] or [3]
A popular genealogy shows her born 0730 in Rouergue, Toulouse, France. Such a date would move her in time by two or three generations
Bertrada de Laon's parents are unknown. [1]
Cawley states that Bertrada's parents are unknown. [1] The following have been suggested as possible parents:
She was also called Berthe or Bertree, She was perhaps a Merovingian Princess.
The name of her husband is unknown. [1]
This profile is showing her married to Fredelon Toulouse formerly De Toulouse
Some genealogies show Martin de Laon as the husband of Bertrada and father of Charibert, however, no verification has yet been found for this.
Christian Settipani has proposed in an updated family tree table for Charlemagne that Bertrada married an unnamed son of Irmina. [4]
The editor of Einhard's Annals in the MGH SS series records that "Pippinus…uxoris pater et Avia Charibertus et Bertradana" founded the monastery of Prüm[599]. This is presumably based on the charter dated 23 Jun 720 under which "Bertrada seu Berta et filius meus Chairibertus" donated property to Prüm, witnessed by "Bernarius, Chrodolande, Theodericus"[600], although the charter is probably spurious as it predates the foundation of the abbey. It is assumed that this refers to the mother of Charibert, father of Queen Bertrada, although another possibility is that it refers to the wife of Charibert and an otherwise unknown son of Charibert, brother of Queen Bertrada. The Monumenta Epternacensia record a donation by "Berta, filiis meis Chardradus et Harbertus"[601]. [1]
She may also have donated land to the Abbey of Echternach, along with Charibert and another son Hardrad in the same year.
She died after 721 in France. It is not known where she died or is buried.
The Find A Grave reference showing her buried in Saint Denis Basilica has confused her with her granddaughter who is buried there. [2] The Cathedral of Saint Dennis is specific that it is "Pépin Le Bref (751-758) et Berthe, dite au grand pied (726-783)" who is buried there. [5]
Charles Cawley reports that Bertrada had three children:
See also:
Bertrada Gisele DeLaon (born Merovingian) was born in 695, at birth place, to Hugobert Chugoberctus Hociobercthus Von Ecternach Prince Senechal of De Aquitaine and Irmina "Saint of Liege" Abbess von Aquitaine (born Oeren). Hugobert was born in 635, in Bayern, Germany. Irmina was born circa 640, in Ohren, Limburg-Weilburg, Hessen, Germany. Bertrada had 2 sisters: Chrodelinde von Autun (born BAVARIA) and one other sibling. Bertrada married Heribert DeLaon at marriage place. (if she died at age 3 how would this be possible? Such is the problem with internet trees). Heribert was born in 687, in Laon, Aisne, Pays de la Loire, France. They had 2 daughters: Mlle V De Saint Quentin (born De Laon) and one other child. Bertrada passed away in 698, at age 3 at death place.
Another internet tree has this information: Claribert I (Heribert), Count of LOAN was born in BET 700 AND 705 in of, Laon, Aisne, France. He died 4 in 751. Claribert married Bertrada, Countess of LOAN in 719. Bertrada, Countess of LOAN was born about 695 in of, Laon, Aisne, France. Bertrada, married Claribert I (Heribert), Count of LOAN in 719. They had the following children. Berthe (Bertrade) Countess of LOAN was born about 720. She died on 12 Jul 783. But it at least does have sources associated with it. See http://www.dustyhills.net/aqwg216.htm list of sources below.
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I found a father with about the same age as Bertrada "die Ältere, Bertha" de Laon formerly Prüm aka of Prüm. Childebrand "germanus, Count in Burgundy, Duke in Provence" Autun formerly Heristal aka Heristal, Perracy (678-751): https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Heristal-40
He got an other wife, but his child is Nibelung (Nibelung I) "Nivelon, the historian" d'Autun formerly Autun: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Autun-38 Can Nibelung I be the same child as "Unknown Nibelung", the child of Bertrada? Nibelung is no child of the wife of Childrebrand in his profile.
Greetings Richard
edited by Richard Ameling
Born about 0685 [location unknown] ANCESTORS ancestors Daughter of Theodoric (Merovingian) Bourgogne [uncertain] and Chrothechildis (Unknown) Franken [uncertain] Sister of Chlodovech (Merovingian) Franken, Childebert (Merovingian) Franken and Chrotlind (Unknown) de Neustria [half]
No one will do that here despite evidence supplied, there is no fact checking of parents in this time period in Medieval History.
Christian Settipani. Updated Family Tree, page 17. no one reads his work correctly anyway.
--- means uncertain and that is basic 101 genealogy further ---?--- means questionable not fact. see no one reads his pedigree chart and this propagates the falsity on Wikipedia and that moved to FamilySearch. Despite a citation needed added there and no one can come up with one.
edited by Rod Piper
I have seen this before in Cawley where the reader gets conflicting results between entries found going up a tree line and entries going down a tree line. I'd be inclined to put her as a child of Theoderich and chalk the conflict up to a failure to correct inconsistent entries in FMG for the same person..
The biography does need some clean up but I can't see that we would want to mark her parents as certain, unless other information comes to light.
When clicking on Unknown-247976 it takes you to Moss-5764 born in the 1800s...
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bertha-24 https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Merovingian-108