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Harm Reduction

I made this to hopefully see a decline in redundant/daily posts, and make some sort of positive impact. Please remember to use the search function if you have a basic question regarding LSD.

• A full beginner dose should typically be 1/2 - 1 single tab.

• The average dose range of LSD on a single tab is 70-105μg.

• There are tabs dosed with as little as ~20μg, or more than 300μg in some absurd cases. The overwhelming majority of sources try to lay their tabs around 100μg because it’s mathematically simple, and more profitable in the long-run.

• The odds your tab has more than 200μg on it are very low. The most common higher dose tabs are 125-200μg. Take half of any tab that’s supposedly above 200μg just to be safe at first, and if that doesn’t at least produce an 11-12 hour mildly visual trip, the full tab wasn’t above 200.

• A typical microdose should be 10-25 μg

• 50-300μg of LSD can last anywhere from 8-14 hours. 300-1000μg can last anywhere from 14-20 hours. Exceeding a milligram (1000μg) can produce effects that last up to 24 hours. It’s usually hard to fall asleep under the influence.

• Unless you have an above average baseline tolerance or handle the substance extraordinarily well, it’s not advisable to exceed 500μg. Temporary delirious/psychotic symptoms become more likely if you don’t know what you’re getting into with large doses, and a 16+ hour duration doesn’t help.

• 25i-NBOMe is a cheap and dangerous LSD imposter. If you take an untested tab and your mouth/throat becomes numb, or an intense bitter taste is present, spit it out immediately.

• Please test your tabs with an Ehrlich reagent kit to verify that what you have is indeed an indole and not 25i-NBOMe. Follow up with the Hofmann reagent kit to verify that it’s not an LSD analogue or other phenethylamine. I personally recommend using TKP for your reagents: https://testkitplus.com/?ap_id=oddshaman (TKP as a third party is not responsible for this recommendation, I chose to affiliate with them because they’re my personal preference after 8 years. Another great organization is DanceSafe https://dancesafe.org/ — DanceSafe genuinely saves lives with their testing booths at music festivals).

• Common positive effects include but aren’t limited to: closed and open eye visuals, tactile enhancement/hallucinations, euphoria, stimulation, introspection, and creativity.

• Common negative effects include but aren’t limited to: overstimulation, increased heart rate, vasoconstriction, anxiety/paranoia, and confusion.

• Common neutral/manageable effects include but aren’t limited to: pupil dilation, frequent urination, insomnia, and temperature sensitivity.

• Always optimize your set (expectations and mental state) going into an experience, and always optimize your setting (direct environment/surroundings) going into an experience.

• LSD interactions with various medications (From Erowid):

  1. There is still very little legitimate, thorough medical research on this subject. LSD's outlaw status makes it very difficult to obtain permission & funding for research. Therefore, you should regard all of the anecdotes and conclusions here as being scientifically unproven, and you should note that any experimentation you choose to do carries a significant risk.

2. Lithium or tricyclics (like Amitriptyline, Anafranil, Asendin, Aventyl, Elavil, Endep, Norfranil, Norpramin, Pamelor, Sinequan, Surmontil, Tipramine, Tofranil, Vivactil) are fairly consistently reported as being very bad in combination with LSD. Life-threatening seizures and at least one DEATH have been reported to be triggered by the combination of LSD and lithium. Tramadol is another drug you should avoid in combination with LSD because of the potential for seizures and other negative side effects.

3. SSRIs (like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Celexa, Desyrel) or MAOIs (like Nardil, Parnate, Marplan, Eldepryl, Aurorix, Manerix) are fairly consistently reported to noticeably reduce the effects of LSD. (There are no physically dangerous reactions to these combinations on record, but be cautious and don’t be excessive with dosing.)

• HPPD risk is associated with frequent use of psychedelics (more than once a month), high doses, and younger age groups. HPPD varies in severity between individuals. Short episodes of visual tracers, morphing surface textures, patterns, and light sensitivity etc., during experiences of anxiety, fatigue, or overstimulation are most common.

• LSD has the potential to produce a very challenging psychological experience. If you have mental-health issues, research the risks and benefits associated with psychedelic treatment of your condition. Do NOT take LSD if you are seriously suicidal or have a family history/symptoms of schizophrenia or psychosis.

• Weed does in fact potentiate the effects of LSD. Some users report that the effects of weed are indefinitely altered to some degree after their first few experiences with LSD (It often becomes more psychedelic).

• Various benzos like alprazolam and clonazepam can be used as “trip-killers,” but you don’t need to take more than a single medical dose, and not all of the psychoactive effects will be negated. This should be a last resort.

• LSD tends to make verbal communication challenging, so prepare appropriately if using in a social setting.

• If you’re 19 or younger you should probably wait until AT LEAST your early 20s to try LSD because of unforeseen behavioral/neurological impacts. Waiting until 25+ is optimal.

• You’ll build a substantial tolerance to LSD if you trip multiple times in two weeks, so wait 10-14 days between trips for a general reset. Tolerance does incrementally decrease day-by-day following an experience.

• If you want to redose to increase the effects, do it before or during the start of the peak. Redosing after the peak will only prolong the duration unless you increase the dose significantly.

• Peak effects generally occur 2.5-5 hours after dosing (less than or around 300μg). Peak effects can last from 2.5-8 hours after dosing with larger doses. Many people say the peak comes in “waves.”

• If you’ve tried psilocybin containing mushrooms before, certain dosage calculators based on subjective effects and intensity equate ~2.5 grams of an average cubensis variety to ~100μg of accurately dosed LSD, but there are differences between the substances of course.

• You should consider having a trusted friend or a close partner “tripsit” you during your first experiences, or at least let someone know your whereabouts beforehand if you want to do it alone. (Note: Trip-sitting should just involve being close by and present if the user needs assistance or someone to talk to, sitters shouldn’t try to influence the trip unless it’s getting chaotic.)

• LSD has the potential to be therapeutic, recreational, spiritual, or all of the above depending on the individual and their particular circumstances. Stop gatekeeping.

Leave suggestions in the comments!

edit: A couple people are aggravated with minor details in these general points of advice, so please take everything I’ve said with a grain of salt and do your own research! I’m simply providing a helpful starting outline, not set-in-stone facts.

Thank you all, and safe travels!

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Can’t edit the post anymore, so:

• Research has shown that LSD is NOT physically dangerous, but people with cardiovascular health problems should be cautious with dosing and avoid combinations.

DO NOT under any circumstance drive while under the influence of LSD.

• I strongly recommend AGAINST combining other psychoactive drugs, even THC, with LSD during your first experiences.

edit: turns out I can edit the post, it wouldn’t let me for the longest time, but oh well leaving this comment up.

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I'd suggest eating before a trip, as my friends and I always seem to lose our appetites while tripping. (we walk so much during trips, that by the eighth hour, it usually comes back if I didn't eat beforehand).

I usually fast before and during until the comedown, though I might eat some light berries or something throughout. I prefer tripping on an empty stomach.

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I fast because i get extremely bloated and if i eat before or during it makes it worse

Second this my first experience i ended up feeling like passing a rock when i was gassing out you can choose to ignore me if you please im experienced using luci but its always good to look back and re-inform yourself sometimes especially if your wanting to introduce others to the drug

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Yes. If I eat a meal just before I start tripping I will have this feeling like I have or am about to shit my pants. It's not enjoyable.

One of my most challenging trips was me at a music festival fully believing I had shit myself while tripping balls. Went back to my tent and was staring into the cosmos on my ceiling. After ab an hour I decided to check my pants and no shit was to be found hahah. After that I have dialed back my public setting dosage...

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Had the exact same thing happen to me on my first mushroom trip. Had this extremely distracting "wet and sticky" feel which turned out to be total bogus. I felt betrayed by the shroom.

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One time I was tripping balls and I decided to play a really hard level of a video game that I had been stuck on for a few days.

I played brilliantly. I was able to see the pseudo random patterns so clearly that I knew what to do 10 moves in advance.

I also shit my pants.

I guess my in order to gain more focus than normal, my brain had to divert resources from somewhere else, and that somewhere else was bowel control.

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As a matter of fact, I shit my pants last night. It wasn’t a joy cleaning that while almost blind from visuals because I was tripping so hard.

havent been on reddit in years but its comments like these that make me wanna come back lmfaooo

Dude you shit my pants last night.

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One of the best and most underrated comments

*was feeling proud I researched this issue and just finishing my dinner and took my first ever dose of acid when seeing your comment. Just in case you ever needed to know if you’ve made a difference in this world… I’m pretty sure I’ll never forget tonight or your comment… Ok and also where are my brown pants now damnit…

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will light berries interfere with my general relativity?

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No unless they are Halle Berries! [I can't beleive I am actually typing this!]

cute, mate…cute.

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have you ever tried light berries...ON ACID MAN.

I personally LOVE eating on LSD. Fruit is amazing on L, cold refreshing vibrant and sweet n juicy whats not to love. especially on the beach -- smoothies are a good source of some sort of energy and hydration while trippin.... shit i've gone to an all you can eat crab legs place trippin sack. It was amazing.

AND HYDRATE!!! Dont forget Hydrate!

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Really? I get ravenous.

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Really? I could never for some reason lol. While I’m tripping my stomach just feels like a weird idek how to describe it, chasm? Like it feels like my whole middle section of my body is an empty space, but if I eat anything heavy I feel really bloated and stuff.

u/friday1970 avatar

Yep, especially during the 4-6 hour peak, I cannot eat either. Food is disgusting, like it's for mere mortals, and I'm beyond that. However, it's always a few hours after the peak, when things start to normalize. I'm usually busy during a trip, like biking or walking somewhere, and rarely stationary. So if I don't eat beforehand, it catches up with me. Also I know I have thoughts that I should probably eat as well.

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Oh my god, my stomach feels the exact same way when I'm tripping. I completely understand what you mean

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i always feel like i’m chewing my tongue so i get scared to eat because i can’t tell if i’m chewing my tongue or the food when i trip. and each bite takes me down like a rabbit hole loop it’s weird af to explain and food looks soooo nasty when i’m tripping

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I feel like that too! I eat first but I can’t eat a lot, and my whole midsection feels like… it’s not there for lack of a better wording

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This is so foreign to me. When I’m tripping(and especially on psilo) I can’t eat or drink anything except like the purest water and like fruits/veggies/etc. I’ve been a smoker for a large portions of my life and I would absolutely DESPISE cigarettes or sodas while tripping. Can’t explain it, but happens every time so I just go with it and pack accordingly. Every time I try to smoke or drink a sip of soda or eat unhealthy food— I just immediately go “yuck!” and wonder how the hell I would normally be able to eat that. The feeling sticks with me for a while afterwards too.

Tbh, I’m now a little bit jealous of your ability to pig out on L lmfao. I would love to get lost in some baked cheese fries mid-trip or on the tail of a rager. 😅

u/SuSano__o avatar

I feel the exact same , stoner for years and whenever i take any psychedelics I barely have appetite , if eating anything it would be fresh foods like fruits or vegetables anything that isn't produced or artificially flavored. Don't forget to eat though fellow space cadets :)

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Weird. I understand that cigarette part, I was tripping and I'd say I wasn't even peaking yet, but my buddy was like, "want a ciggy?" So I was like "sure! Sounds good" smoked it, and I'm not sure how much longer it was but by the second or third cigarette it was unbearably disgusting.

Terrible taste. Dryish feeling in my throat Upset my stomach;

Even after my trip it took me weeks to smoke my next cigarette, but even my first after that was menthol, before that it was full flavor and even to this day full flavor is still nasty and I used to smoke them all of the time.

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Me too mate. I need to make sure that I have prepared a feast of chicken breast, steak, or a big old turkey sandwich with cranberry sauce, stuffing, roast turkey. Mmmmm. Psilo makes my appetite stronger than it’s ever been.

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Yeah, I was in NYC a few weeks ago and ate 3 hot dogs, two slices of pizza, and a gyro in short order. It was like eating for the first time and was one of the most pleasurable eating experiences of my life.

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Great advice. Eat something before it becomes Mission Impossible to make food yourself or read your phone’s screen to get takeout.

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Lmao reminds me of when I’ve been on shrooms, tripping balls and when I’m trying to type, the letters just start floating around the screen and I give up using my phone 😂😂

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Food and holy shit cheesy shit was soooooooooooo good. Like unreal. I could see all the tiny details in my food and on the cheese I was completely entertained by my food

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Interesting on the different experiences with food. I find food to be okay, neither good nor bad, but necessary to keep the energy going. Lsd can be very exhausting, it’s hard to rest on it. Stick to easy to eat foods. I also tend to get bloated on LSD, so easily digestible foods helps (and some GasX).

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Question: How do people ride or walk while on LSD? I mean if you’re hallucinating isn’t walking or riding bike very difficult? Can you see the road, traffic and people around you clearly? Just curious.

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what does that feel like ?

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Thats actually pretty interesting, some of my largest door dash or uber eats orders have been placed when me and my friends are trippin away lol

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It was weird, my first time trying LSD with cannabis and I had no appetite whatsoever. I was completely lost in all the visuals, auditory hallucinations and reality breaking delusions that I felt I HAD THE KNOWLEDGE, I was one. I live free.

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Also get good sleep before as I always have trouble getting good sleep in the wee hours of the morning

Hi, does taking it on an empty stomach make the trip stronger?

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not only eat, but take a shit break as well. Especially if you go out. The last thing you want is to shit in a forest somewhere on a cross section having everyone seeing you. It is extremely difficult to hide yourself on LSD.

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u/Flame_MadeByHumans avatar

If you ever feel like you need something and not sure what, it might just be water.

Took me forever to realize what dehydration felt like when I was tripping

Omg! I realised the same thing. Water was the answer many a times

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oh yeah i know that feeling of kinda emptiness in your stomach not knowing what it is till you eat or chug water

That's what dehydration feels like when I'm not tripping lol

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LSD can be therapeutic

I completely agree with this but it might be worth putting a disclaimer on it. There’s been a kind of new wave of people seeking out psychedelics to deal with depression, but I think in the midst of that this idea that it’s a kind of “magic bullet” when it absolutely is not has developed. I’ve seen an alarming number of posts here and elsewhere with people talking about wanting to drop acid to cope with severe depression and suicidal ideation, which, in a non-clinical, unsupervised environment, can be incredibly dangerous or detrimental.

I’m not remotely disputing the therapeutic potential of these substances—they’ve certainly helped me and I know they’ve helped a lot of other people. I just think that excitement needs to be tempered with a measure of caution.

In any case, this is an awesome quick fact sheet kinda post. Thanks for putting it together!

Edit: also, I’m not trying to gatekeep, so I hope it doesn’t come off that way. If you think LSD will help you by all means go for it. I just also think there’s a potential line where it goes from potential therapeutic substance to dangerous enhancer of psychological troubles.

u/NoiseIsTheCure avatar

What a lot of people don't exactly realize is that LSD or the experience itself doesn't literally solve anything - it really just helps you achieve a perspective such that you can see the issues and/or the solutions clearly. But still at the end of the day, it's up to sober you what you do with that new information.

Eg you don't just magically walk out of a trip no longer a drug addict, rather you learn something during the trip that radically changes how you see that addiction and that leads to meaningful life change.

I completely agree with you there. Tripping gives you infinite insights into yourself. Speaking for myself, I realized that making peace with whatever was down there is the only way out of it.

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Would “acid can be a therapeutic tool” be a better summation?

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I think that has the same problem—the issue isn’t that the core point of the original phrasing is wrong. It’s totally correct. I just worry that a certain subset of desperate people read too far into the whole “LSD for therapeutic purposes” concept, which has serious risks.

u/Flame_MadeByHumans avatar

Definitely, it’s not going to magically fix anyone, but if you have intention with using it definitely can be

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Totally agree with that. Truth is, most evidence about benefits/risks on most illegal drugs are based on people's experiences. Unfortunately, none of them have been properly researched. On that note, I had a friend who only did weed after the age of 20 and only a spliff every week. Had LSD twice (no other drugs ever). First time was amazing. Second time, had auditory hallucinations and basically was diagnosed with schizophrenia at age 35. Apparently had mild symptoms before but never enough to seek medical attention. Nothing that worried him before he tried it.

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Experienced, 40 year old psychonaut with a history of depression and melancholia writing here. Psychedelics are a two edged sword when it comes to the Jungian shadow modern medicine calls depression. I have gone through hundreds of trips in my life. Some of them made me feel like coming out as a different person after the experience, following months of positive mood lift and “lust for life”. I do particularly remember one very nihilistic and particular existential acid trip though that not only made me conclude that it’s ok to die any time, but rather the idea to actually exit this life, ego etc going along the level 1 multiverse theory. I wanted to switch into a “better” timeline by exiting this timeline via death. As a person who’s decision making tries to go along with logic, this stayed an idea. Yet with a different, more stressful setting this “decision” might have become reality. Listening to my mood and my “shadow” much more since this experience, but I fear younger folks out there might act faster upon instinct, it only takes seconds in real life if you really want to end it. But this is not an graceful exit for the architects of this adventure that starts with birth and ends with death naturally anyway, so you don’t need to speed up the unstoppable law of decay in our common nature.

I realize I’m almost a year late in responding to this but I’d say that I’m one of those folks who used it for depression. People consider it a magic bullet because they see people online and are cajoled by people in daily life, sometimes Life Coaches (so unethical), to not take their anti-depressant for a day, then drop acid/mushrooms. I’ve now heard this message regurgitated three times to me by clients. It becomes my responsibility to redirect them to the most appropriate information. I’ve found that the possibility of health complications like that of seizures or psychosis from which one doesn’t return fully to be enough in all but one of my cases. Thankfully that person who wasn’t having my pep talk is fine. My former neighbor is not fine. This cat used to trip alone in his apt. often. He was already dealing with some form of depression. I have no idea what medication he was on, but I know he enjoyed LSD. It was shocking to see the state of the apartment he lost his mind in. He lives at home with his mom now at 34 years old and there will come a time when he goes back to the hospital permanently. I have to assume that he had a psychotic break.

I’m careful and we’ll researched about anything I put in my body, ESPECIALLY a hallucinogen. I test them in most cases first, and I typically only try a 10-15% micro dose first. This method really works well for me. I’ve found out quickly and safely if I’ve got a strong batch or a super happy batch, etc. With mushrooms, I do a 50% therapeutic dose. That has worked perfectly every single time.

Why is this not pinned tho

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Can’t pin regular user comments

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High dosed tabs, although rare, do exist

The "go to" dose is 100mcg. This is because of....math. Not everyone who lays crystal is a genius. Plus its easy to break things down into 100s.

1 gram= 100 sheets with 100 hits with 100mcg.

Now sometimes mistakes happen with the math. Or some greed. Or cutting the paper wrong. Or Hotspots.

Sometimes its even quality. If the lsd crystal is only 85% pure lsd and you use the above math you have 85mcg tabs not 100mcg.

So thats usually why you find tabs near 100mcg but not exactly 100mcg.

According to saferparty in 2015 the average dose for 1 tab was 72 mcg.

Now, there is no way to print warnings or doses on the tabs (i mean...we could...but that would be ugly) many people before us have learned that high dosed tabs just lead to more problems. More freak outs. More attention. More bad trips.

The average user measures the acid in tabs usually anyway. Someone might eat 2 tabs usually but then eat 2 high dosed tabs and be floored.

But, who's ever laying the crystal can make the blotter as strong as they want. You can fit up to 2mg(ish) on a piece of quarter inch by quarter inch blotter. Lots of newbies make potent tabs to make a name for themselves. Or other times people have personal batches.

High dosed tabs definitely exist.

Heres one that's been lab verified at almost 400mcg https://www.drugsdata.org/view.php?id=5255

I've even heard verifications of 750 mcgs. I even heard rumors of tabs that were 1200-1500mcg but they were all burned do to being too strong. Spun everyone out too much...

Now, tabs over the 200/300 ug range are pretty rare. You usually have to be connected to get high dosed tabs. They are typically for "friends and family"

All the high dosed tabs I've seen were free and came with a warning. The potent dose wasn't used as a selling point.

The odds are your tab is 65-125 ug though.

Make sure to test your tabs. People have died from 2 hits of nbomb.

https://academic.oup.com/jat/article/39/8/668/915794

It is very important to know what you are taking.

Look at this fuck shit they found on this tab:: https://www.drugsdata.org/view.php?id=8301

Regarding tolerance:

Usually you can re-dose before the peak to increase the affects. If its during or after the peak you'll have to start doubling your doses to increase the affects. (Example: you eat 100mcg. But eat another 100mcg before you peak. You will feel like you at 200(ish) mcg. But say you ate 100mcg and ate another 100 mcg during/post peak. It will just extend the 100mcg trip or make the come down last longer. You'd have to eat 200 more micrograms just to make it feel like you ate another 100mcg)

A good tip to remember is "wait 2-3"

2-3 hours for peak

2-3 days for sanity

2-3 weeks for tolerance

2-3 months for the magic.

u/Fractal-Entity avatar

Thank you for the detailed clarifications!

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I really enjoyed this, thank you!

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Is it true nbomb will not take effect if you swallow tabs immediately and if you do does it reduce the effects of real lsd?

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Eating and swallowing tabs can destroy some substances, however, there are plenty more that CAN be dosed through the stomach. I forget what stuff, but point is, you need to test your stuff. Swallowing does NOT make it safe.

The long comment. 2-3 months for magic. What does magic means lol

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Disney World is fun but if you go too often it really gets boring. Same kinda thing can happen with acid.

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u/r3ynoldswrap avatar

Tripping too often or regularly can suck the fun out of it. Take a month or 2 to unpack your last psychedelic experience and apply it to your life, then tripping again can feel much more special and magical. Tripping every week or 2 consistently can not only make it less interesting, but potentially give you HPPD.

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When you say wait two to three months for the magic, what are you referring to?

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If you lived in Disney land 24/7 it wouldn't seem that special.

Visit Disney every 2-3 months and it's truly magical

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Be careful, what you may discover may not be true, dont take it for the fundamental truth.

best advice

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wdym by this

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The first time I took lsd I saw a whole pantheon of beings and what looked to be god who had been sending me truths from the clouds. During the trip I promised him I wouldn’t forget it and spread the truth. Then I woke up the next day and realized all of that was incoherent bullshit

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my friend and I took 2 tabs of acid and we talked for 7 hours until we came to the conclusion that god exists, we were both atheists, but now we not.