Families and victims were a massive force in today’s hearing

Mark Zuckerberg apologizes to families over social media harms in contentious Senate hearing

By Clare Duffy, Brian Fung and Aditi Sangal, CNN

Updated 5:00 p.m. ET, January 31, 2024
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2:40 p.m. ET, January 31, 2024

Families and victims were a massive force in today’s hearing

From CNN's Brian Fung

People held up photographs and placards during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.
People held up photographs and placards during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing. Evelyn Hockstein/Reuters

The families of people harmed by social media proved to be an immense force in Wednesday’s hearing.

Through applause, laughter at CEO testimony, hisses and moments of silence, the parents who say their children suffered or died as a result of social media served as a key foil. They drove tensions higher and in some cases appeared to fuel the attacks of lawmakers against the CEOs.

Congress has held many tech CEO hearings. But more than any other, the presence of so many parents in the room transformed the hearing and injected an unprecedented sense of urgency.

2:53 p.m. ET, January 31, 2024

Zuckerberg apology was "mindblowing," Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen tells CNN

From CNN's Brian Fung

Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen in 2022 during an Unfinished Live event at The Shed in New York City.
Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen in 2022 during an Unfinished Live event at The Shed in New York City. Craig Barritt/Getty Images

The Facebook whistleblower who kicked off years of scrutiny on the impact of social media on teens said Mark Zuckerberg’s apology to parents was “mindblowing.”

Today’s hearing would have been inconceivable just a handful of years ago, she said, when lawmakers were asking Zuckerberg basic questions about how his company makes money.

“Almost every hearing since has been substantially more meaningful, and they’ve asked more insightful questions, more relevant questions. This was four hours long, and there were maybe 20 minutes where I was like, ‘Do you really know what you’re asking?’ And that’s amazing.”

Asked about the potential for legislation to move forward, Haugen said she would be surprised if “we make it through another [electoral] cycle where we don’t see something.”

2:31 p.m. ET, January 31, 2024

Here's a recap of the key moments from the hearing

From CNN's Brian Fung and Clare Duffy

The Senate Judiciary Committee's grilling of four social media executives produced some notable moments. Here are a few:

Zuckerberg, Spiegel personally apologize to families: Meta CEO Zuckerberg stood to apologize to the families in the hearing room. “I’m sorry for everything you have all been through,” he said. “No one should go through the things that your families have suffered and this is why we invest so much and we are going to continue doing industry-wide efforts to make sure no one has to go through the things your families have had to suffer.”

Mark Zuckerberg spoke to victims and their family members as he testified during the US Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, "Big Tech and the Online Child Sexual Exploitation Crisis."
Mark Zuckerberg spoke to victims and their family members as he testified during the US Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, "Big Tech and the Online Child Sexual Exploitation Crisis." Andrew Caballero-Reynolds/AFP/Getty Images

Snap CEO Evan Spiegel also apologized to families whose children have died after they purchased drugs on Snapchat. “I’m so sorry that we have not been able to prevent these tragedies,” Spiegel said, before detailing some of the efforts the company takes to protect young users.

(L-R) Jason Citron, CEO of Discord, Evan Spiegel, CEO of Snap, Shou Zi Chew, CEO of TikTok, Linda Yaccarino, CEO of X during the hearing today.
(L-R) Jason Citron, CEO of Discord, Evan Spiegel, CEO of Snap, Shou Zi Chew, CEO of TikTok, Linda Yaccarino, CEO of X during the hearing today. Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images

"The dark side" of social media products "is too great": Social media companies have created products that have an upside, but they also have a dark side that is “too great to live with,” Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said Wednesday while grilling chief executives of four such companies. Until social media companies are sued for the damage they are doing, Graham warned that there will be no change.

Judiciary Committee Ranking Member U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) spoke during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on online child sexual exploitation at the U.S. Capitol today.
Judiciary Committee Ranking Member U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) spoke during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on online child sexual exploitation at the U.S. Capitol today. Evelyn Hockstein/Reuters

Hating social media companies is a rare unifying force on Capitol Hill: Wednesday’s hearing again demonstrates the breadth of criticism for social media companies among lawmakers, a rare bipartisan topic on Capitol Hill. Despite both parties’ appetite for going after tech platforms, however, Congress has yet to pass meaningful legislation to regulate social media companies. Most of the action has taken place in state legislatures and in the courts, which have become battlegrounds for new policies including age minimums for social media.

(L-R) Jason Citron, CEO of Discord; Evan Spiegel, CEO of Snap; Shou Zi Chew, CEO of TikTok; Linda Yaccarino, CEO of X; and Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Meta, watched a video of victims before testifying at the US Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.
(L-R) Jason Citron, CEO of Discord; Evan Spiegel, CEO of Snap; Shou Zi Chew, CEO of TikTok; Linda Yaccarino, CEO of X; and Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Meta, watched a video of victims before testifying at the US Senate Judiciary Committee hearing. Andrew Caballero-Reynolds/AFP/Getty Images

Read the full rundown of key hearing moments here.

1:51 p.m. ET, January 31, 2024

The hearing has wrapped

The Senate Judiciary Committee has wrapped its hearing where lawmakers grilled four tech executives — Meta's Mark Zuckerberg, TikTok's Shou Chew, X's Linda Yaccarino and Discord's Jason Citron — on the online child sexual exploitation crisis.

2:15 p.m. ET, January 31, 2024

Sen. Marsha Blackburn expresses horror at Meta’s valuation of teen users at $270

From CNN's Brian Fung

Senator Marsha Blackburn speaking during the hearing today.
Senator Marsha Blackburn speaking during the hearing today. From U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary

Tennessee Republican Senator Marsha Blackburn confronted Zuckerberg on internal Meta documents suggesting that the company estimates the lifetime value of a teen user at $270.

“How could you possibly even have that thought? It is astounding to me,” Blackburn said, before recognizing a group of youth advocates in the audience and inviting them to stand.

When they did so, the advocates revealed that they were wearing T-shirts emblazoned with the slogan, “I am worth more than $270.”

“Children are not your priority. Children are your product,” Blackburn told Zuckerberg in the tense exchange.

Audience members attending the US Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, "Big Tech and the Online Child Sexual Exploitation Crisis," in Washington, DC, on January 31.
Audience members attending the US Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, "Big Tech and the Online Child Sexual Exploitation Crisis," in Washington, DC, on January 31. Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images

1:35 p.m. ET, January 31, 2024

Meta platforms have become "killing field for the truth," GOP Sen. Kennedy says

From CNN's Aditi Sangal

Senator John Kennedy during the US Senate Judiciary Committee hearing "Big Tech and the Online Child Sexual Exploitation Crisis" in Washington, DC, today.
Senator John Kennedy during the US Senate Judiciary Committee hearing "Big Tech and the Online Child Sexual Exploitation Crisis" in Washington, DC, today. From U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary

Louisiana Republican Sen. John Kennedy said Meta platforms have become a "killing field of information" where users "see only one side of an issue."

"You have convinced over 2 billion people to give up all of their personal information — every bit of it — in exchange for getting to see what their high school friends had for dinner Saturday night," he said. "And you take this information, this abundance of personal information and then you develop algorithms to punch people's hot buttons ... again and again and again, to keep them coming back and to keep them staying longer. And as a result, your users see only one side of an issue, and so to some extent, your platform has become a killing field for the truth, isn't it?"

Zuckerberg rejected this characterization of his business.

In this environment, Kennedy claimed, the platforms can become a "cesspool of snark."

Asking if Facebook makes it clear to its users how their data is monetized by the platform, Kennedy said, "Does your user agreement still suck?"

This prompted some laughter in the room.

Zuckerberg said people get the basics of how social media works.

"You're in the foothills of creepy. You track people who aren't even Facebook users," Kennedy said. "I just wonder if if our technology is greater than our humanity in the interest of this funnel."

In conclusion, Kennedy told Zuckerberg, "If you think that Instagram is not hurting millions of our young people, particularly young teens, particularly young women, you shouldn't be driving."

1:44 p.m. ET, January 31, 2024

Youth advocates skeptical of Zuckerberg’s apology

From CNN's Brian Fung

Mark Zuckerberg, center, addresses the audience during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in Washington, DC, today.
Mark Zuckerberg, center, addresses the audience during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in Washington, DC, today. Kent Nishimura/Bloomberg/Getty Images

Youth advocates in the room are pushing back on Mark Zuckerberg’s apology, saying talk is cheap and calling for the company to “step out of the way” of national regulation.

Arielle Geismar, 22, started using Instagram a decade ago and says she was directly affected by eating disorder content on the app.

During an interview on the sideline of the hearing, she accused Zuckerberg of downplaying a link between social media and mental health harms, and dismissed his claims that Meta and other platforms are working hard to create safe spaces for users.

"It feels disgusting to sit there and be lied to,” Geismar told CNN. “His words are less than a drop in the bucket … it is really, really nice for him to be able to say a few words and assuage everything, but it doesn’t bring back any human and it doesn’t take back the harm.”

I want Big Tech to step out of the way of our elected representatives in their pursuit of regulating this industry,” Geismar added.

Zamaan Qureshi, co-chair of the advocacy group Design It For Us, called Zuckerberg’s apology “a pretty insane moment” during an interview with CNN.

“I think it was pretty emotional for a lot of people in the room. You’re in here, you can kind of feel that tension right now. It certainly feels like there’s a tide turning in trying to get something done here.”

1:33 p.m. ET, January 31, 2024

Snap CEO Evan Spiegel apologizes to parents

From CNN's Clare Duffy

Co-founder and CEO of Snap Inc. Evan Spiegel during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on online child sexual exploitation at the U.S. Capitol, in Washington, today.
Co-founder and CEO of Snap Inc. Evan Spiegel during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on online child sexual exploitation at the U.S. Capitol, in Washington, today. Nathan Howard/Reuters

In response to prompting from California Democrat Sen. Laphonza Butler, Snap CEO Evan Spiegel apologized to families whose children have died after they purchased drugs on Snapchat.

"I'm so sorry that we have not been able to prevent these tragedies," Spiegel said, before detailing some of the efforts the company takes to protect young users, including proactively monitoring for drug-related content and working to educate teens and families about the dangers of fentanyl.

"I know that there are good efforts. None of those things are keeping kids from getting access to drugs on your platform," Butler said in response.

1:32 p.m. ET, January 31, 2024

Lawmakers grill TikTok CEO on the platform's connection to China

From CNN's Aditi Sangal

TikTok CEO Shou Zi Chew, center, speaks as Snap CEO Evan Spiegel, left, and X CEO Linda Yaccarino, right, listen during the Senate Judiciary Committee's hearing on online child safety on Capitol Hill, today.
TikTok CEO Shou Zi Chew, center, speaks as Snap CEO Evan Spiegel, left, and X CEO Linda Yaccarino, right, listen during the Senate Judiciary Committee's hearing on online child safety on Capitol Hill, today. Mark Schiefelbein/AP

TikTok CEO Shou Chew was grilled several times on the company's connection to China, via its parent company ByteDance, and the amount of access and influence the platform grants to the Chinese government.

In one instance, Chew told Arkansas Republican Sen. Tom Cotton that it was "a coincidence" that he was appointed CEO of the platform a day after the Chinese Communist Party's China internet investment fund bought a 1% stake in ByteDance's main Chinese subsidiary, getting a seat on the board of the subsidiary. Missouri Republican Sen. Josh Hawley also questioned Chew about the company's connections to China and its communist party.

In another instance, under questioning from Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz, Chew described the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre in Beijing as a “massive protest.” While Chew’s characterization of the event is accurate, it omits the subsequent bloody crackdown against pro-democracy activists by the Chinese government that today is heavily censored on the Chinese internet.

When later pressed about on his answer by Sen. Cotton, Chew said the event was also “a massacre.”

Chew has previously testified to Congress that TikTok allows content about Tiananmen Square on its platform. TikTok does not operate within China. But its parent company, ByteDance, distributes a substantially similar app known as Douyin.