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So it's basically Bill Burr's routine pasted together into a narrative.
That didn’t work so well with Sebastian Maniscalco’s movie, we’ll see how it goes here.
Didn't burr have a lot of say in F is for Family? I liked that show plenty. It's not like it's his first non-stand up project.
Burr’s stand up has two major themes:
The old “traditional” values of the past are filled with racism, sexism, rage, and hypocrisy.
Modern society is full of a bunch of idiotic, virtue-signaling softies that take the wrong things way too seriously.
F is for Family got an audience of younger people from leaning hard into that first bullet point. This movie looks more like the second one. It’s one thing to throw out a few jokes during a standup routine…not sure how the younger fans will like it if this is a whole show that takes a shit on social awareness.
what the fuck are you on about?
Woof... Sebastian's last Netflix special was garbage as well. He spent 40 minutes complaining about cancel culture and LGBTQ people.
Edit: just got to thinking about all the great bits he's done over the years... The difference between company visiting the house 20 years ago vs today. How people dress like slobs in public places. And what I think is the best 5 minutes in stand up which is his Chipotle bit. All those bits, and just about everything he did before COVID was relatable to a large audience and hilarious. I hope he can find his way back to that, as opposed to turning harder to the right.
Yikes.
I've been a fan of stand up comedy for a pretty long time now, and I watch a decent amount of it, but this is the first time I've ever heard of this dude. Watched the Chipotle bit, and holy fucking shit, I didn't find it funny at all. Like, at allllll. I know comedy is super personal and very subjective, but goddamn that flat out sucked. That bit might have been funny in 2009 or some shit, but man, to come up with that in 2015 is just lame as hell.
Yeah, both were pretty disappointing. We went to see About My Father because we enjoyed his previous stand up shows, but I think I laughed maybe twice the whole time. It did pretty bad at the box office too, grossing $18M worldwide at a cost ~$30M to make, most of which probably went to DeNiro.
I can't remember the last time a movie with DeNiro was good that wasn't either directed by himself or Scorsese. Maybe the Meet the Parents one, but that's it.
He did such a good job pushing that movie on "Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend" podcast. And I thought he was hilarious on that show too.
Shame this movie doesn't sound too good (or his stand up).
Ah so a Dave Chappell impression
So many comedians are taking up the cancel culture material. I can’t relate to that shit lol. If I rape someone, I get arrested or say some extremely offensive shit, I get fired from work. Their skewed version of reality and consequences does not translate to the vast majority of us.
yeah dude raping someone is definitely in the same league as saying something offensive or getting arrested (without any context as to why)
An old bit of his where he talks about guys not washing their feet in the shower. I make it a point to make sure I always scrub my feet because of that bit.
I can only assume you've watched...5 minutes of standup.
I love sitting at the airport and roasting people who dress to the nines. It's already the most uncomfortable 5 hours on the face of the Earth. Completely insane that people actively choose to make it even more uncomfortable by dressing like they're at a job interview.
This is a very strange thing to be bothered by
A lot of people fly directly into meetings or work events. I have myself.
Every year I travel with a friend of mine who insists on wearing a belt when we fly. So he has to take off his belt at security, put it back on, and of course wear a fucking belt during the whole flight.
I can never understand why anyone would do such a thing. I keep pointing out to him that elastic waistbands are a thing. Does he think he's going to pull one of the flight attendants or something?
I’ll check it out to give him the view.
Enjoy it, bud!
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My comment was about Sebastian not Bill. I think Bill is hilarious. Sometimes he steps over the line, but I think he is way more self aware than most comedians. His material has nuance to it, and isn’t insults just for the sake of insults.
no he didn't.
can be very easily be verified for anyone that actually watches it.
Yeah it wasn't that extreme, but the material was incredibly hack. With bits like "it takes my wife a long time to get ready" and "you're not allowed to say Indian style anymore."
The “my kid identifies as a lion” bit?
but he always feels like such a big part of the show.
The reason why he wasn't funny in his last special is because he wasn't physical in his comedy like he usually is. Maybe because he was wearing the tux🤣
Didn't work well for kreiser either
Neither of those people are in the same stratosphere as Bill Burr.
Burnt Krysler?
Is that that shirtless dude who turns red laughing at all his own jokes?
Yeah but he’s also not funny
It didn’t lol
Yeah it’s pretty bad, I only made it about halfway through.
What? Sebastian’s movie was sweet and entertaining. You didn’t like it?
Pretty much every stand up comedian that gets a movie or tv show is just them making comments straight out of their sets lol
What's the deal with ovaltine. The container is round, the cup is round. they should call it roundtine.
This is why Mulaneys TV show super sucked
Yup. Although it worked for King of Queens, Seinfeld, Everybody Loves Raymond, etc
Seinfeld was actually well written and had good characters. If anything it expanded Jerry’s stand up that tends to stagnate.
At least he knew it.
I enjoy Bill Burr but this movie looks a bit like a late boomer/early genX circle jerk. I’m hoping it’s a bit more than just “dudes with no filler frustrated by PC culture”
The trailer isn’t encouraging
Worked great with F is for Family,
Only worry would be it’s too similar
At least F is for Family took place in the 70s so it made more sense.
Yes.
Boomers the movie.
Gen X, maybe.
they make this exact retort in the movie.
That's the vibe I got.
While part of this looks pretty bad, I have a strange faith in Bill Burr that the message of the movie won’t simply be “In the old days, men were men and now the world is a bunch of pussies and cowards.”
Part of me is expecting a lot more heart, and that what we’re seeing in the trailer is just the first third of the flick, where our characters are all adamantly being their asshole selves and expecting the world to wise up to their wisdom. I have hopes that the film is something more heartfelt about accepting change and growing older.
Burr just generally seems smarter and more self-aware. Dude rags on himself constantly.
Exactly. Bill always talks about how he actively chose to not be that kind of person, get his anger in check, and go to therapy so he doesn’t traumatize his kids like he was by his dad. I bet by the end of this movie, he comes around.
Yeah, if it's played straight it's going to be one of the most insufferable movies of the year. Particularly since the first "joke" makes Burr's character looks really awful. But everything in the trailer is so on the nose that it's hard to believe that it's what the movie is really going for.
I think it's unlikely that they're going to play that entirely straight, but I don't think that'll make the film any less unwatchable. The humor doesn't look like it will play well for most people with the overreliance on caricatures because it makes the joke on those groups, rather than the main characters.
On one hand, trying to humanize gay and political caricatures may be persuasive to some audiences. That's a very difficult tight-rope to walk, especially in a comedy film.
On the other hand, it's going to be a very long and exhausting film if the majority of the film structures the humor as "your boss is queer now, isn't that wacky," even if the moral of the story is "...and that's okay."
The humor is going to play exactly like all of his standup sets and podcast rants, which is more than just "everything in generation x is better and I don't get the young peoplez these days". And given that he's pretty popular (sure far from a-list, but he's big enough to host snl and sell out decent to big size venues) it's not a bad thing.
However, I think unfortunately this trailer is pretty bad in spite of that. In isolation it really does come across as some boomer (i know he's gen x) wet dream movie. Every single beat in it made me cringe a bit when I detached myself from what I know about the guy so I can only assume for people not familiar with him at all it's just worse. Reminds me a bit of what people describe Yellowstone as. It's really gonna need to rely on people familiar with him cause I don't think this is gonna draw any decent % of the general public who don't know him at all. We'll see, though.
The "ill do anything for my kids" crying hug is your hint, its going to be like his standup where he basically portrays the "men were men in the past and everything is wrong now" just to make fun of it.
Bill's standup has a way of making you believe he has some shitty worldviews, only to bring it around by the end so you say "ah, now I see. that was just misdirection" in a funny way. I'm assuming the movie will be something like that.
The genius to Bill's standup is that he plays that character but simultaneously acknowledges how stupid that character is.
I think we will get that from this.
Yes but the trailer doesn't show that at all. You're correct that his self-awareness is part of his charm and he leverages it really well in his sets. But with this trailer he has to bank on drawing in people who are already familiar with him. Every beat in the trailer kind of made me cringe a bit until I remind myself that his standup sets do go beyond the "aren't things wackier today and I don't get young peeplez" beats.
I kind of disagree. I think the trailer had some of this in it.
That's exactly what's gonna happen. It'll be..
"ya'll are a bunch of pussies and we're real men. We grew up when fathers beat their children, everyone smoked, and nobody gave a shit what you said."
Then it'll turn into...
"I realize the world has changed and I need to change with it. Its a good thing people are MOSTLY more excepting of peoples sexuality and race. The world is a better place for it and I except that now."
Problem is its still very hacky and obvious. I feel like the first half of this movie is gonna make right-wing dads super happy and into it. "You tell 'em." Then the second half is gonna piss them off.
I don't really know who its for cause it really does come off as Fox News dads that are liberal but still Fox News dads BUT turn even more liberal in the end. Like the message will be.."there's no middle ground anymore." I get it's for "Old Dads" I'm just saying. Meh
But hey...RICK GLASSMAN! That's always nice! I wondered how he got Billy on TYSO.
its shooting for the middle ground, but hopefully still swinging the overton window back to sanity.
Like I'm pretty liberal, but then get annoyed with the obvious performative stuff. But I'm smart enough to know that is the minority, just attention seeking, and that most liberal people have pretty normal views (its how democratic policies, whenever divorced from a narrative, always poll better).
They talk about it in the episode. Rick asked him when they were filming the movie.
Accepting* accept* not “except”
I mean, it seems pretty clear to me that he's going to make fun of both. He's going to show the younger generation and his own as morons in their own ways, and hopefully growing to recognize what the other has to offer.
I would be blown away if that ends up being the message. Bill Burr is way smarter than that
Unfortunately he’s spot on. That’s the exact premise of the movie. Sorry they/them are spot on.
That sucks to hear, seems very unlike burr to me, oh well
That's odd, the ending you're describing is exactly the generic shit ending I'm imagining. I'd actually respect the film more for playing it less safe/funny and being utterly unrepentant asshole.
Don’t understand why you got downvoted. I really like when the ending isn’t EXACTLY what you expected. Instead it’s predictable from the start and ethically reassuring to all the woke snowflakes that the older generation can adapt. I wish they just went in the opposite direction. Just for laughs. And they didn’t learn a lesson at all. Why are these older comedians being so apologetic for being the person that got them famous to begin with. It’s a fucking disgrace.
It almost definitely will, his animated show F is for Family was a similar way. On the surface you would think it was glorifying the old angry dad who hates his family trope but it went pretty deep into why it was like that and how it was pretty shitty.
Burr’s genius is that he always has a point to his “men used to be men” routine. He points out absurdities and asks people to re-examine themselves, in his own way.
It will be sweet for sure. Bill is low key a softy at heart
never say "low key" about Burr, or anything, again, EVUH.
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This comment is a month old lol this is so pathetic, get a life
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lol they mention Zip Recruiter in the movie.
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Laughing while reading "white chocolate swizzle" certainly didn't help.
Gee. I wonder what kind of inappropriate joke was made about a company called Shari’s Berries.
Sharrrreeee's Baaaarrries
Knowing burr’s work, this trailer is to hook in the “the world is soft” crowd only to give them a lesson of how big an ass hole they come off to everyone and they are the reason for their misery during the movie
Yeah, if you listen to his standup or podcasts or interviews, he spends a lot of time talking about trying to deal his own toxic upbringing and bullshit so he can be a better dad.
You can tell with the "ill do anything for my kids" hint at evolution but the issue is that crowd watches bills standup routine and still misses the point.
I went to one of his live shows with some friends earlier this year. He made a few jokes about biden's age and liberals in general and got some huge cheers and laughs. The crowd got noticeably quieter when he started cutting into trump and conservatives a few minutes later.
I think a large portion of his audience miss some of the nuance behind his jokes and view him as some sort of "anti-woke" crusader when that's absolutely not what he is at all. You're definitely correct
He kind of is, but he is against the fringe. the problem is the idiots on the other side thing the fringe is mainstream and their fringe IS their mainstream. They just think everyone, everywhere, everything, everywhen is "woke" now.
Im all about BLM, like black people do have a point when unarmed people are getting gunned down by jumpy cops. Do I read every tweet and think piece by some 9th wave feminist or believe PETA when they say pets are slavery? No, I roll my eyes just like they do.
Look at Colbert who achieved fame by lampooning the right.
True. I’ve seen him roast those fans…well, I’ve seen him roast a lot of people (his Star Wars universe bit was pretty funny)
Thats fine. His logic is “if you’re gonna be that far away from my point, then it’s not my job to baby sit you”. Im cool with that. He’s talked about it on a few occasions on how some people in the audience completely miss the point of his bits.
The Cartman/Rick Sanchez problem
you can't knock him for trying though.
A movie with a character arc. Sign me up.
I've been a fan of Burr for years now, and I have a feeling that it's going to be skewering the mindset of the old dads, and at the same time making fun of the massive pendulum swing we've made with the newer generations.
If it tracks with his messaging from past specials and interviews, it's going to state "both sides are kinda dumb, and here's some reasonable middle ground".
middle ground?! Are you some sort of maniac? There is no middle, only MY SIDE! And the other side is literally satan! /s