A spin-off of The Vampire Diaries made for CW. A family of power-hungry thousand year old vampires look to take back the city that they built and dominate all those who have done them wrong.
I'm near season 3 finale, why do they blame freya for doing the spell to finally end lucien? Marcel,kol and vincent crying like a baby blaming the mikaelsons for everything when really everything that happened to davina was davina's fault alone. She ended herself. Davina herself was the whole reason why the ancestors wanted her dead. In season 1, She betrayed her own coven.She fraternized with the enemies(vampires) which is strictly forbidden by their coven btw and let marcel terrorize the entirety of the witches in new orleans. Then in season 3, she ordered hayley to assasinate one of their own? When she could just talk to the ancestors to depower every witches that would try to hurt her. She's the regent, they should respect her. The ancestors would listen to her only if she would ask. Instead she ordered her to be killed. I just summarized every reason why it's her fault why the ancestors wanted her dead so let's get to the real issue.
Lucien turned into an original beast. Whose fault was that? DAVINA. If she didn't break klaus's sireline for the sole purpose of her selfishness on ressurecting kol, even kol himself warned her and told her not to do it because it's dangerous and would have real consequences. But she still did. Imagine if she just listened and didn't break it? Lucien would've never been a beast and cami would never die and kol would never live to be cursed to kill her and they can find another way to ressurect him if only she could have patience and not be stubborn. So I blame cami's death to davina too btw..
Now, everything that happened to kol that leads to kol killing davina was the ancestors's doing. So I don't get for the life of me as to why marcel blamed the mikaelsons for davina's death? The ancestors target locked davina ever since. That's why lucien didn't touch even a single strand of her hair because he said the ancestors already had a plan for her that is worse than death. So she had it coming. The ancestors controlled kol and have her killed. All the torment and torture that the ancestors prepared for her, she had it coming. None of it was the mikaelsons fault. She brought this upon herself and freya didn't owe her anything to even save her from the ancestors so it's from the goodness of freya's heart that she even helped her even if it didn't last long. I don't blame freya for saving her family, because I would do the same thing if my family's life was on the line. If the only thing that can save her family was to send davina to the ancestors, so be it. It's davina's fault why freya's family was in danger anyway so It's not her fault that the ancestors was fixiated on torturing davina but it's davina's fault why lucien became a beast.
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While I would agree that Davina brought her fate on herself, you do have to look at things from Marcel, Kol, and Vincent's perspectives as well. Freya had successfully devised a way to keep Davina safe from the Ancestors after her death, giving hope that eventually they would find a way to bring her back, and then ripped that hope away with how she went about dealing with Lucien. It's well within reason for them to be pissed off after that.
Not only that, but Davina was not the reason the ancestors wanted the Mikaelsons dead, they killed anyone and everyone who had the audacity to mildly disagree with them and not do exactly what they said when they said it; even if it meant they would get themselves killed. Davina was not the reason Lucien was turned into an Upgraded Original, the Mikaelsons brought that to fruition all on their own.
This person seems to also miss that what was the Mikaelsons fault was that they took away the protection that Davina had while Kol, Vincent, and Marcel were working to find a way to bring her back. Freya decided that Davina's life was less important than her siblings; while that might be reasonable that does not make it forgivable, and certainly does not mean the people who loved Davina should not be angry at the ones who scarified her for their own ends.
took away the protection THAT THEY GAVE HER. the mikaelsons didn't kill Davina. they just didn't save her either. I mean, if I had to choose bw my family and someone who has been hellbent on killing me for years- THE CHOICE IS OBVIOUS. and it's not like they didnt try to look for clothes ways. it was just the last resort
Taking away protection that is preventing something bad from happening to someone is still taking an action with known consequences which means they share in the blame. Once again as I have said several times at this point, just because their actions are understandable (i.e. yes I get it that they did it to save their family and many people who make the same choice) does not mean it is forgivable, those who love Davina can still be angry with the Mikaelsons because they took action that directly led to her demise. Just because you approve of the Mikaelsons actions does not mean they are not assholes to other who empathize with Kol, Marcel, and Vincent.
It's davina's fault that lucien turned into a beast. Why can't people see that? Do you think lucien would even have the courage to do that if klaus's sireline did not break? Davina broke it for her own selfishness reasons. And now the sireline was broken and lucien is not scared to kill klaus anymore. Y'all mad as hell and blame it all to the mikaelsons but it caused the mikaelsons to lose one of their own. And let's just ponder the fact that davina wouldn't even be dead if she just listens not to ressurect kol. 💀
The witches would've just forced Vincent to break the sireline
I'm inclined to believe that the ancestors doesn't have that much power? Davina tried it before when she had all of the harvest girls powers which basically means the magic of the rest of their coven was to flow to the four of them, and the rest of the witches would kill them so the magic would flow back into the earth. But davina didn't continue with the ritual and absorbed all the magic herself but even then, she couldn't break klaus's sireline. That's basically her whole mission in season 1 and 2 but she failed to do it with the ancestors magic. The magic that was used in the strix coven was a very old powerful dark magic. It connected her into coven of witches that practices dark magic and when elijah gain conciousness, he basically murdered all of those witch so all the magic was absorbed by davina to complete the spell of breaking klaus's sireline. So yeah, vincent wouldn't do a thing. It's all davina.
Lucien couldn’t turn himself if the sire line wasn’t broken. That’s why he wanted it broken.
But that's just it, lucien became an upgraded original because of davina's selfishness to ressurect kol even though almost all the cast💀 warned her that the price she have to pay for it was not worth it. But she still did. If she did not break klaus's sireline. Lucien would never even thought to be an upgraded original because he would never dare defy or hurt klaus.
The ancestors were evil although Davina did eventually bring their wrath upon herself and it got her killed, yes. They had found a way to protect her which Freya eventually used to gain the power to kill Lucien, this broke the trust of Marcel, Vincent and Kol. They cared deeply for Davina. They cared about Davina just as much as Freya cared about her siblings and would do anything for Davina. I don't fully blame Freya because she will do anything to protect her family and Davina wasn't on her list of priorities.
I however fully get why Freya would be blamed for taking away their chances at saving Davina.
The Mikaelson's brought the wrath of the ancestors and Lucien just as much if not more than what Davina did to the ancestors. They technically had it coming after everything.
Only thing Davina did to make it easier for Lucien's plan was break Klaus' sireline so he no longer needed to worry about dying when killing Klaus. Davina breaking the sireline was something she saw as necessary to protect Josh and Marcel. She didn't want to risk them dying with Klaus
The Mikaelsons were always killing people left And right, in the name of family, but that only extended to Klaus, Rebekkah and Elijah, and anyone they loved.
Lucian taking the beast serum was not Davina's fault. Yes, he took it to kill klaus because he was no longer linked to him. But the reason he wanted the Mikaelsons dead is because of what the Mickelsons did to them. He would have found another way to go after the Mikaeksons. It's also possible that if they didn't unlink the sire link, he could have still taken the serum to kill the other Mikaelsons. He was also after Elijah so if he had taken the serum anyway to go after him Freya would have still done it to save him and Davina would have been gone anyway even if she didn't break the link.
Also, her breaking the link wasn't a bad thing. She saved possibly thousands of vampires. Most of them had nothing to do with klaus and his problems. But also the reason she did it was to save those she cared about. Both Josh and Marcel were linked to klaus, and they could have died if she didn't break the link. Lucian wasn't the only vampire that wanted klaus dead. There were other vampires from other sire lines that also wanted to kill him, so to Davina, she was protecting those she loved. Also, she wasn't going to do the spell when she realized she needed Hayley's heart to do it. That was Tristan who got the heart from Jackson without him, and Aya Davina couldn't have done the spell in the first place, so she wasn't completely at fault.
Yes, she had personal motives for doing it. But it's the same reason you give Freya a pass for. She was protecting those she loved from possibly dying and bringing back someone she loved. Just like you said, Freya "of course" chose her family and stopped the spell that would protect Davina. Marcel and Josh were her family. Marcel was like a father to her, and Josh was like a brother. They weren't blood no, but she knew both of them longer than Freya knew her siblings. They both did the exact same thing, so it doesn't make sense to say one was right and call the other selfish. Also, the Mikaelsons wanted Kol back, too they just wanted it a different way at first, so she did help them too by bringing him back.
The reason they were upset that she died wasn't that they "killed" her. You are right she was already dead. But Freya was helping them she had a plan and promised to keep her safe from the ancestors so they could bring her back then she chose to stop the spell to stop Lucian. Which you are right she was just helping her family. But they saw it as betrayal because she was on their side wanting to protect Davina until she had to make a different choice.
Marcel was like a father to her he saw her as a daughter so of course he was going to be mad that she changed her mind without even letting them know. He was also saved by Davina when she broke the link so he probably wanted to save her as well due to what she did for him. Kol was in love with Davina and felt guilty for killing her in the first place. She also brought him back from the dead so he obviously wanted to return the favor and bring her back. He has also been betrayed by his siblings before many times in his life. So to him being betrayed again especially after he was promised she would help them really upset him. Even Klaus told Freya not to do it because he knew how much Davina meant to Kol and Marcel. He wanted to find another way to stop Lucian because Kol and Marcel were important to him and he didn't want to betray them. He was willing to risk his life for them but Freya chose not to listen.
I'm not blaming Freya like you said she did it to protect her family. I'm just saying that Davina breaking the link didn't make it her fault that Lucian did what he did. None of that would have happened if the mikaelsons didn't misstreat the trinity in the first place. When she broke the link she was doing the same thing Freya did. We can't fault one and not the other. I think they both did what they thought was the best way to protect their families. Yes both things may not have been the right choice but they did what they felt they had to do.
lol, no
My question is why people think the breaking of Klaus's sure line was necessary for lucien to become a beast. Why would that be necessary. Even if we assume that the sireline link would not be broken even though I feel like it would be since his vampirism would no longer technically be linked to Klaus it would not stop him from upgrading and killing everyone else and simply sealing Klaus or making him his prisoner. In my mind I was always ujnder the impression that Lucian had nothing to do with the sireline link being broken and it didn't even factor into his plans. The only delay he experienced was getting his hands on white oak and Freya to achieve the spell.
All this hate for someone who was a scared child at the start. The witches lied to the harvest girls about what would happen in the ritual, started slitting throats, and Marcel saved her and tried to save the others as well. Of course Davina saw the witches as her enemies after and helped Marcel.
Davina didn't owe the witches anything and the ancestors sucked.
While Davina did bring on her own fate, Lucien becoming the beast was not Davina’s fault. Lucien wanted to become the beast since his compulsion broke 900 years before that. The Strix also wanted to break the sirelines long before Davina was alive. The only reason Klaus’ sireline was broken was because of Marcel. And it just happened to be what Lucien wanted. However I do agree that a lot of things could have been prevented if she didn’t break the sireline.
And while Davina’s death was not directly Freya’s fault, she did have a part to play. The Mikaelsons promised to keep Davina safe and were going to resurrect her and then the hope of her coming back was ripped away by the Mikaelsons. I get why Marcel blames Freya
"While davina's death was not DIRECTLY Freya's fault, she DID have a PART to PLAY" did I hear that right? What part?😭 Davina was dead. Freya didn't play any part on Davina's death. They asked her for help when she was already dead. and all of your hopes ressurecting davina in the first place was impossible. The ancestors are the one tormenting davina and wanted her dead, do you think the ancestors would let Van Nguyen who literally draw magic from them to ressurect her while they're tormenting her on the other side? NO! Y'all can see how the ancestors control the regents. And sooner or later, the hand of glory that was keeping davina in the circle would eventually burn out and she would still be back in the ancestors hands anyways.
Well not Vincent ! I hated kol and don’t even get me started on that skunk davina
Ya I feel like half of the problems in the originals are created by Davina herself
To be honest😭 I loved her character except when she's being whiny and hypocrite. But I can't help but notice that we could actually trace every misfortune and villains that they faced back to davina💀😭
I do too. I never liked Marcel, nor did I like Davina and Vincent get on my nerves. The witches target Davina because of her relationship with Marcel. Davina should never have become regent . She shouldn't have even wanted to be since she knew the witches hated her. Vincent shouldn't be friends with Marcel , especially after losing his wife and kid.